Mike I think you are right about "Standon". The photocopy I have from the Stoke archives is very poor and I had to guess many words when making a transcription. But a second look, with your explanation and the link to the map, is persuasive. I shall follow up your suggestions as to the National Archives as well. Thank you for your time and advice...very much appreciated. Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:40 AM Subject: ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 278 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: History of Tong, Shropshire 1894 (Irene M. Fullarton) > 2. Re: History of Tong, Shropshire 1894 (Irene M. Fullarton) > 3. Re: MEDDINS (Jill Rose) > 4. Re: William and Martha Fox ([email protected]) > 5. Shropshire: It's Early History and Antiquities - 1864 > ([email protected]) > 6. Re: History of Tong, Shropshire 1894 ([email protected]) > 7. Re: William and Martha Fox ([email protected]) > 8. Re: William and Martha Fox ([email protected]) > 9. Re: where are the shropshire popes ([email protected]) > 10. Re: JOHN BATES (Michael J Hulme) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 17:06:11 +1000 > From: "Irene M. Fullarton" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] History of Tong, Shropshire 1894 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 17:09:03 +1000 > From: "Irene M. Fullarton" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] History of Tong, Shropshire 1894 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Hi Renee, > > I am in Australia so probably not. > > Any Meddings or Meddin/s in it per chance. > > Regards, > > Irene. > > At 15:50 21/09/2008, [email protected] wrote: >>I have available to whomever wants it the index to "The History of Tong, >>Shropshire" written by George Griffiths. You could put it on a web >>site if you >>like. If you are interested in the book you will find it on Google books >>or >>at : >>_http://books.google.com/books?id=kHEuAAAAMAAJ&pg=PR3&dq=%22History+of+Myddle%22&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&output=html_ >> >>(http://books.google.com/books?id=kHEuAAAAMAAJ&pg=PR3&dq="History+of+Myddle"&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&output=html) >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:21:36 +0100 > From: "Jill Rose" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] MEDDINS > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Irene > > There are a few MEDDINS on my website if you'd like to have > a look. Not from Tong, but not too far away. > > Best wishes > > Jill Rose > www.namesfromclwyd.org.uk > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:05:09 -0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] William and Martha Fox > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: mmcknnann > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6577.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hi > > I recently searched the Alberbury parish registers to look for my ancestor > Mary Fox who married Thomas Wilson in 1768. I made a note of all the Fox > families in the area and found the marriage of William Fox and Martha > Thomas in 1797. Also found the baptism of William, son of William and Mary > Fox of Criggion on 1 Jan 1768. I have more info going back to 1708 if you > are interested. > > Best wishes Ann > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 07:46:31 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: [ENG-SHROP] Shropshire: It's Early History and Antiquities - > 1864 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > This book can be found on Google books at : > _http://books.google.com/books?id=xukGAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Shropshi > re&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&output=html_ > > (http://books.google.com/books?id=xukGAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Shropshi > re&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&output=html) > > It includes the Domesday Survey of Shropshire with explanations of the > contents of the survey and info on the people mentioned. > > Renee L. Waring > > > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips > and > calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 07:47:52 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] History of Tong, Shropshire 1894 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > In a message dated 9/21/2008 3:05:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Hi Renee, > > I am in Australia so probably not. > > Any Meddings or Meddin/s in it per chance. > > Regards, > > Irene. > > > > No, sorry Irene. > > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips > and > calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:53:43 -0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] William and Martha Fox > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: jmitchell2006 > Surnames: Fox > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6577.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hello Ann > > Yes please, I am definitely interested in anything on this branch of the > Fox family. I am trying to connect them to the Fox Family that came to > Ontario. The dates for William & Joseph match up almost perfectly with the > information that I have. > > Thank you > Jude > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:20:44 -0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] William and Martha Fox > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: mmcknnann > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6577.1.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hi Jude > > I found several branches of the Fox family in the Alberbury registers. The > marriage of Thomas Fox and Mary Poulter took place on 17 September 1752 by > banns. William, baptised 1st Jan 1768 had a brother Joseph, who was > baptised 12 August 1770. Also found the burial of a Mary Fox of Criggion > on 15 October 1769. I have too much info to put on here. Is there another > way to send it to you? > > Ann > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 17:17:01 -0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] where are the shropshire popes > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: eamphlett > Surnames: Amphlett > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/1060.2.1.2/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hi Sarah > > Sorry uanble to help you on the "Popes" however hope you can help me. > > Saw your 2006 message on ancestry .co.uk. I am researching my Family Tree > "Amphlett" and have got back to 1672. The Broseley / Madeley Amphletts are > in my direct line. You say in your 2006 message that you have details of > the Broseley Amphlett's and I would appreciate any help you could give to > put more detail into my research. > Thomas 1823 - Benjamin 1799 - Thomas 1775 - John 1754 - William 1733 - > William 1705 - John 1672 - Richard ? > > I have stablished the tree line as listed above but do not have > information on children and spouses yet. Also very keen to find out about > the jobs these people did. > > My G G G G Grandfather ws descended from a Benjamin Amphlett who was born > in 1799 who had a brother Thomas born 1797 and a sister Elizabeth born in > 1814 are these the same ones your grandmother was descended from? > > Can you help with any Broseley or Madeley Amphlett's please? > > Regards > > Eric Amphlett > > Email: [email protected] > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 19:39:59 +0100 > From: Michael J Hulme <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] JOHN BATES > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hello Greg > > First of all, it is best to click "Reply" when you wish to continue with > a current thread, otherwise your questions and the answers get split up > and lose continuity. If you look on the Shropshire List at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/2008-09 > you will see your thread is now split into two different places making > it difficult for other readers to follow. > > Assize Courts were organised in "Circuits" and both Shropshire and > Staffordshire were in the Oxford Circuit but as far as I know an offence > would always have been tried in the same county that it took place so on > that basis the crime must have been in Staffordshire. > > The centre of Market Drayton is only one mile from the county boundary > with Staffordshire and Ashley is only another four miles (less than two > hours walk in total) so your man could easily live in Market Drayton and > walk to Ashley. > > I wonder if the place name of his employer has been printed incorrectly > because there is no Stanton close enough to fit the circumstances but > whilst looking at the map a few moments ago I noticed a place called > 'Standon' in Staffordshire which is about 4 miles from Ashley and about > 9 or 10 miles from Market Drayton. This would fit in much better with > the circumstances you have outlined. > > You can find detailed mapping online at > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=standon,+staffordshire&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=42.224734,75.234375&ie=UTF8&z=13&iwloc=addr > but if that doesn't work try this short cut to the same place > http://tinyurl.com/3npyhc > > When you look at the map Ashley and Market Drayton are west of Standon. > > The National Archives at Kew in London produce a lot of free Research > Guides, some of which are about Assizes, see > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/researchguidesindex.asp?j=1 > > Mike > Shropshire, UK > ______________________________________________________ > > > Greg Bugden wrote: >> Hello Graham >> Thanks for the welcome and reply. The trial was held at the Staffordshire >> Assizes. So the Stanton you mentioned in Staffordshire could be a likely >> candidate for the Blagg residence. But if the crime had been committed in >> Shropshire then I guess the trial would have been held in that county, >> unless all assizes in the region were held at Stafford. Do you know? >> >> However, the article tracks the movements of the prisoner before his >> capture: he went to a draper in "Drayton" (could that be Market >> Drayton??) and to a woman in "Ashley" (though the type is not very >> legible, could be "Astly"). These must have been nearby villages, within >> walking distance of Stanton. Additionally the money stolen was in notes >> from the Market Drayton Bank. >> >> As for his birth in Market Drayton, The IGI lists only one JOHN BATES >> born in Shropshire (his native place according to the Convict Indent) in >> the year 1807 (he was 18 at the time of the trial, hence this date), >> Market Drayton. >> Cheers >> Greg >> >> REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. >> Threaded Archives at - >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives >> >> Searchable Archives at - >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS mailing list, send an email > to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 278 > *************************************************** >