Hello Graham Thanks for the welcome and reply. The trial was held at the Staffordshire Assizes. So the Stanton you mentioned in Staffordshire could be a likely candidate for the Blagg residence. But if the crime had been committed in Shropshire then I guess the trial would have been held in that county, unless all assizes in the region were held at Stafford. Do you know? However, the article tracks the movements of the prisoner before his capture: he went to a draper in "Drayton" (could that be Market Drayton??) and to a woman in "Ashley" (though the type is not very legible, could be "Astly"). These must have been nearby villages, within walking distance of Stanton. Additionally the money stolen was in notes from the Market Drayton Bank. As for his birth in Market Drayton, The IGI lists only one JOHN BATES born in Shropshire (his native place according to the Convict Indent) in the year 1807 (he was 18 at the time of the trial, hence this date), Market Drayton. Cheers Greg
Hello Greg First of all, it is best to click "Reply" when you wish to continue with a current thread, otherwise your questions and the answers get split up and lose continuity. If you look on the Shropshire List at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/2008-09 you will see your thread is now split into two different places making it difficult for other readers to follow. Assize Courts were organised in "Circuits" and both Shropshire and Staffordshire were in the Oxford Circuit but as far as I know an offence would always have been tried in the same county that it took place so on that basis the crime must have been in Staffordshire. The centre of Market Drayton is only one mile from the county boundary with Staffordshire and Ashley is only another four miles (less than two hours walk in total) so your man could easily live in Market Drayton and walk to Ashley. I wonder if the place name of his employer has been printed incorrectly because there is no Stanton close enough to fit the circumstances but whilst looking at the map a few moments ago I noticed a place called 'Standon' in Staffordshire which is about 4 miles from Ashley and about 9 or 10 miles from Market Drayton. This would fit in much better with the circumstances you have outlined. You can find detailed mapping online at http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=standon,+staffordshire&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=42.224734,75.234375&ie=UTF8&z=13&iwloc=addr but if that doesn't work try this short cut to the same place http://tinyurl.com/3npyhc When you look at the map Ashley and Market Drayton are west of Standon. The National Archives at Kew in London produce a lot of free Research Guides, some of which are about Assizes, see http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/researchguidesindex.asp?j=1 Mike Shropshire, UK ______________________________________________________ Greg Bugden wrote: > Hello Graham > Thanks for the welcome and reply. The trial was held at the Staffordshire Assizes. So the Stanton you mentioned in Staffordshire could be a likely candidate for the Blagg residence. But if the crime had been committed in Shropshire then I guess the trial would have been held in that county, unless all assizes in the region were held at Stafford. Do you know? > > However, the article tracks the movements of the prisoner before his capture: he went to a draper in "Drayton" (could that be Market Drayton??) and to a woman in "Ashley" (though the type is not very legible, could be "Astly"). These must have been nearby villages, within walking distance of Stanton. Additionally the money stolen was in notes from the Market Drayton Bank. > > As for his birth in Market Drayton, The IGI lists only one JOHN BATES born in Shropshire (his native place according to the Convict Indent) in the year 1807 (he was 18 at the time of the trial, hence this date), Market Drayton. > Cheers > Greg > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >
Hello Greg Since my message of yesterday I have found confirmation that my theory was correct. If you go the Historical Directories web site at http://www.historicaldirectories.org/ then click on the 'Find by Keywords' button at the next screen you can select Staffordshire (or elsewhere) in the top drop down list. I would then just enter your own Keyword(s) "Standon" (without the quotes) in the appropriate box, leaving Decade and Key Name as 'All'. Then just click the 'Find Directories' button and see what comes up. When the list of Directories comes up on screen click on the word 'Directory' alongside whichever one(s) interest you, the first one called 'History, Gazetteer & Directory of Staffordshire, 1834' in your case and then I usually click on the 'Next Hit' button to go from one hit to the next. Do this about six times until you reach page 669 which describes Standon and then if you look further down on the right under Farmers you will find Wm Blagg listed. This confirms my assumption and allows you to continue your research knowing it is going in the correct direction. Mike Shropshire, UK ______________________________________________________ Greg Bugden wrote: > Hello Graham > Thanks for the welcome and reply. The trial was held at the Staffordshire Assizes. So the Stanton you mentioned in Staffordshire could be a likely candidate for the Blagg residence. But if the crime had been committed in Shropshire then I guess the trial would have been held in that county, unless all assizes in the region were held at Stafford. Do you know? > > However, the article tracks the movements of the prisoner before his capture: he went to a draper in "Drayton" (could that be Market Drayton??) and to a woman in "Ashley" (though the type is not very legible, could be "Astly"). These must have been nearby villages, within walking distance of Stanton. Additionally the money stolen was in notes from the Market Drayton Bank. > > As for his birth in Market Drayton, The IGI lists only one JOHN BATES born in Shropshire (his native place according to the Convict Indent) in the year 1807 (he was 18 at the time of the trial, hence this date), Market Drayton. > Cheers > Greg > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >