This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tecwynsavage Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6618.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: As you've gone back to the 18th century, I assume that you've checked the IGI. If not, you will find that batch P008891 shows a large number of Astleys christened at Wem between 1583 and 1812, including one William in 1805 whose father was also William. William senior might be the one you are seeking. A very useful, but not universally known, link to the IGI is http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.