I got a notice that one of my messages was being held and am wondering if it was this one that I had sent  TO [email protected] so am resending it the same way its recorded on my sent copy except to add that I was commenting on a previous message that had been posted about ordering birth certificates and getting partial refund when its proven to be the wrong one, and a few extra words at the end to explain my question better.     Joyce Crete --- On Tue, 1/13/09, JOYCE CRETE <[email protected]> wrote:I too have an Evans needing to find a birth certificate. On his marriage certificate he was listed as being 22 in 1891  which means he was born in 1869, but he was 30 per his son which would make his born in 1861, making him 40 in 1901 but he was down as 35 on that census. He gave his place of birth as Welshampton and his father as Charles. There are several births of a Richard Evans with father Charles. I did order one birth certificate for 1865 at Ellesmere but his father was not Charles so I got a partial refund. I found a baptism record for a Richard born in Welshampton but no birth certificate. There is also a Richard's birth showing in WEM and wonder if anyone would have any records that would show any details of that childs birth? All the census reports that I've found show each Richard Evans away from home and working and living with other families. The Welshampton Richards parents had all their children registered except for their son Richard but thats why I think perhaps the one registered in WEM could also be theirs but would like to have more information to go on. This WEM link is my last resort, so if anyone has access to WEM birth records and could tell me more about it, I would sure appreciate it. Joyce