Hello Barbara, What a nice surprise to see a "neighbor" here... my REYNOLDS ancestors had land in Bagley up to the 1850's and there's a family tomb at Hordley cemetery. Have you been to Bagley? It's a small bunch of houses, so I'm sure your ancestors knew mine. I've looked up your BROOKES and WILLIAMS in the Hordley Bishop's Transcripts and found a baptism for Elizabeth, d. of Thos. & Elizabeth Brooks, on July 31st, 1814 - so they married much earlier than you thought. Six of their children were bap. at Hordley (see below). Also found four children of William and Margaret Brookes, and another four of John & Elizabeth Brookes, both of Bagley and shoemakers, so I guess they could be relatives of Thomas - younger brothers perhaps? Found seven children of Henry and Anne Williams. On Thomas & Elizabeth Brookes' marriage, I didn't find it in either the Bishops Transcript starting 1813 or the actual parish register starting 1813. On Tuesday I'm going to the library where they have the PR up to 1813 and I'll look there. Perhaps Elizabeth was from another parish and they married there and not in Hordley. The numbers at the end of the entries are my image numbers, let me know if you want them and I can send them to you. Best, Alejandro Milberg Boston, Mass. Baptisms No. 20, July 31st, 1814, Elizabeth, d. of Thos. & Elizabeth Brooks, Bagley, shoemaker; J. Cooper (07) No. 38, July 7th, 1816, John s. of Thos. & Elizabeth Brooks, Bagley, shoemaker; J. Cooper (14) No. ?, May 4th, 1823, Ann, d. of of Thomas & Elizabeth Brookes, Bagley, shoemaker; Geo. Walker, curate (43) No. ?, Oct. 10th 1825, Thos. s. of Thos. & Elizabeth Brooks, Bagley, shoemaker; Geo. Walker, curate (52) No. 151, March 25th, 1827, Ellen d. of Thomas & Elizabeth Brocks (sic), Bagley, shoemaker, Geo. Walker, curate (59) No. 194, May 29th, 1831, Hannah, d. of Thomas & Elizabeth Brocks (sic), Bagley, shoemaker, Geo. Walker, curate (73) No. 252, March 27th, 1836, Henry, son of William & Margaret Brookes, Bagley, shoemaker, Geo. Walker, curate (97) No. 275, Oct. 7th, 1938, Elizabeth, d. of William & Margaret Brookes, Bagley, shoemaker, Geo. Walker, curate (103) No. 289, Nov. 24th, 1839, John, s, of William & Margaret Brookes, Bagley, shoemaker, Geo. Walker, officiating minister (106) No. 300, August 13th, 1840, George, s. of William & Margaret Brookes, Bagley, farmer, Geo. Walker, curate (114) No. 315, Oct. 9th, 184_, Emma, d. of John & Elizabeth Brookes, Bagley, shoemaker, G. W. Moore, rector (116) No. 347, 1845, Oct. 19th, Eliza, d. of John & Elizabeth Brookes, Bagley, shoemaker, D. A. Beaufort, off. minister (122) No. 367, 1847, Jul. 25, Harriet, d. of Henry & Ann Williams, Bagley, laborer, J. W. Moore, rector (128) No. 374, 1848, Aug. 13th, Maria, d. of John & Elizabeth Brookes, Bagley, shoemaker, J. W. Moore, rector (129) No. 379, 1850, Jan. 13(?), Henry, s. Henry & Ann Williams, Bagley, laborer, Henry White, off. minister (139) No. 390, 1852, April 18, John, s. of Henry & Ann Williams, Bagley, laborer, ? curate (131) No. 392, 1852, June 13th, John, s. of John & Elizabeth Brookes, Bagley, shoemaker, J. W. Moore, rector (131) No. 410, Sep. 17, 1854, Edward, s. of Henry & Ann Williams, Bagley, labourer, J. W. Moore, rector (142) No. 440, Sep. 12, 1858, Eliza, d. of Henry & Ann Williams, Bagley, carrier, J. W. Moore, rector (159) No. 464, Nov 25th, 1860, George, s. of Henry & Ann Williams, Bagley, laborer, J. W. Moore, rector (162) No. 487, Dec. 21, 1862, Mary, d. of Henry & Ann Williams, Bagley, carrier, J. W. Moore, rector (162) Marriages No. 46, Willliam Brookes o.t.p. bachelor and Margaret Lewis of the par. of Baschurch, sp., were mar. in this church by banns this twenty first day of May 1835 by Geo Walker, curate. Sign. of the bridegroom, mark of the bride and of both wits. whose names I can't decipher - John and Mary something like Benchley or Bickley (93). Burials No. 187, Margaret Brooke, Bagley, Nov. 27th, 1843, age 33, J.W. Moore, rector No. 211, Thomas Brooks, Bagley, July 30th, 1846, age 55, J. W. Moore, rector (125) Can someone on this list give me a lesson on "Where do I go from here?" What can I search on line and/or what can I purchase to find my missing ancestors? My gr gr gr grandfather, Thomas BROOKES, b 1787-1791 in Shropshire, appears in the 1841 census in Hordley with his wife, Elizabeth, and two daughters, Ann Elizabeth and Hannah. Daughter Ann Elizabeth was baptized in 1823, and I am assuming that father Thomas and mother Elizabeth were most probably married in the neighborhood of 1820ish. Question #1 What should I be looking at to find their marriage record? Would the only source be the OPRs for Hordley or Ellesmere? Are they available in any form? Ann Elizabeth (who goes by just Ann) is my gr gr grandmother. She married Henry WILLIAMS in 1846 in Ellesmere. She and Henry had seven children that I know of....the eldest b 1847 in Bagley was Harriet, my gr grandmother. The only information I have about Henry WILLIAMS is taken from the censuses 1841 - 1891 and his death record in 1897. I have no parents for him; I have no siblings for him!! Question #2 With a last name of WILLIAMS, how do I select the correct Henry WILLIAMS from all of the WILLIAMS in that area? My BROOKES family and my WILLIAMS family have both been at a standstill for years. I am hoping that someone on this list can point me in the right direction. Thank you for reading my plea, Barbara (in California) **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)