Hi Susie, Journeyman from French means a person employed on a daily basis. Could it be clicker? If yes, then it depends on the trade-links to shoe making, printing, etc. http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/index.html is quite a useful site for such things. HTH Sherry Landa, Oxford, UK > On 1901 census i have my family of JOHN and AMELIA WATKINS in LUDLOW their Son JOHN gives his occupation as a Journeyman and another word that looks like Cricker > does anyone know what this means please

Journeyman frequently means a person who has completed the required amount of schooling or apprentiship and passed a final exam. It is usually in the trades e.g. electrician, plumber, carpenter, cabinet maker etc the next stage is to become a Master- electrician etc that requires more experience, education & passing an exam. As far as I know this was started in the UK and has since travelled to at least the US & Canada. My grandfather b1876 was a Journeyman & Master Cabinet maker as was my father b 1914 my husband an American was a Journeyman electrician. They all received special documentation showing what they were a Journeymen or Master of what ever trade it was in. I do not know what a clicker was, maybe you could Google it as a profession to find out. Hope this helps Dawn -----Original Message----- From: eng-shropshire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-shropshire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sherry with Sky Sent: 15 February 2011 11:00 AM To: eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] Watkins Journeyman Hi Susie, Journeyman from French means a person employed on a daily basis. Could it be clicker? If yes, then it depends on the trade-links to shoe making, printing, etc. http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/index.html is quite a useful site for such things. HTH Sherry Landa, Oxford, UK > On 1901 census i have my family of JOHN and AMELIA WATKINS in LUDLOW their Son JOHN gives his occupation as a Journeyman and another word that looks like Cricker > does anyone know what this means please REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. Threaded Archives at - http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives Searchable Archives at - http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 15/02/2011 16:00, Sherry with Sky wrote: > Journeyman from French means a person employed on a daily basis. > While you are correct about the ORIGIN of the word "Journeyman" its actual USAGE refers to a craftsman who has completed his apprenticeship but has not yet qualified as a master craftsman (i.e., he is at an in-between stage) To quote from Wikipedia: A journeyman is a trader or crafter who has completed an apprenticeship. A journeyman was a craftsman who had fully learned his trade and earned money but was not yet a master. To become a master, a journeyman had to submit a master work piece to a guild for judgment. If the work were deemed worthy, the journeyman would be admitted to the guild as a master. On 15/02/2011 16:00, Sherry with Sky wrote: > Hi Susie, > > Journeyman from French means a person employed on a daily basis. > > Could it be clicker? If yes, then it depends on the trade-links to > shoe making, printing, etc. http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/index.html is > quite a useful site for such things. > > HTH > Sherry Landa, Oxford, UK > >> On 1901 census i have my family of JOHN and AMELIA WATKINS in LUDLOW their Son JOHN gives his occupation as a Journeyman and another word that looks like Cricker >> does anyone know what this means please > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >