At 01:45 AM 4/01/2011, Carolyn Parker wrote: >Hi Graham, >Savage Mason, died May 8, 1739, Childwell, Lancashire; >married Hannah ??, about 1690; >Sevaral children , including Rebekah, born between 1691-1705; all in >Childwell; >That's all I know! Hi Carolyn My Ellesmere transcriptions only commence at 1739, so no help there, but they have been placed on FamilySearch IGI and no such person comes up being christened etc. at Ellesmere. However, did you not see the following, which is surely your man? Christening: 05 JUL 1663 Farnworth Near Prescot, Lancashire, England Savagius Mason. Father: Henrici Mason. I initially thought that the microfiche this information was extracted from could be of use to you as it may contain more information. No. 6904131. But it is only an extraction of indexes, alas. My first reaction was that it would be of much use, but perhaps if you go to FamilySearch and go back to the old version, then enter Family History Library, go to the library catalog, and then enter under 'Place Name' Farnworth (near Preston) 'cos there are two of them, go to Church Records and you will find a host of microfilms which may enable you to solve your problem. These microfilms may be obtained through any LDS (Mormon) family history libraries anywhere in the world and the cost is minimal. Simply $7 here in Oz. Over the years I have had more than 200 microfilms of original parish registers and Bishops transcripts and all except for about half a dozen or so gave me much information about my elder rels. The LDS folk have changed their ordering system so now it has to be done on the internet, but if you contact your local library they will guide you. Alternatively, you can go to: <http://www.madaboutgenealogy.com/2010/01/11/lds-microfilm-ordering-now-online/>http://www.madaboutgenealogy.com/2010/01/11/lds-microfilm-ordering-now-online/ Hope this inspires you to do something greater for 2011 than what you have already done. Good fortune Graham Melbourne Oz

Thank you so much for your interest and suggestions.Do you think "Savagius" could be my "Savage?" What is the origin of Savagius? At 03:26 PM 1/4/2011, you wrote: >At 01:45 AM 4/01/2011, Carolyn Parker wrote: > >Hi Graham, > >Savage Mason, died May 8, 1739, Childwell, Lancashire; > >married Hannah ??, about 1690; > >Sevaral children , including Rebekah, born between 1691-1705; all in > >Childwell; > >That's all I know! > >Hi Carolyn >My Ellesmere transcriptions only commence at 1739, so no help there, >but they have been placed on FamilySearch IGI and no such person >comes up being christened etc. at Ellesmere. However, did you not see >the following, which is surely your man? >Christening: 05 JUL 1663 Farnworth Near Prescot, Lancashire, England >Savagius Mason. >Father: Henrici Mason. > >I initially thought that the microfiche this information was >extracted from could be of use to you as it may contain more >information. No. 6904131. But it is only an extraction of indexes, >alas. My first reaction was that it would be of much use, but perhaps >if you go to FamilySearch and go back to the old version, then enter >Family History Library, go to the library catalog, and then enter >under 'Place Name' Farnworth (near Preston) 'cos there are two of >them, go to Church Records and you will find a host of microfilms >which may enable you to solve your problem. These microfilms may be >obtained through any LDS (Mormon) family history libraries anywhere >in the world and the cost is minimal. Simply $7 here in Oz. Over the >years I have had more than 200 microfilms of original parish >registers and Bishops transcripts and all except for about half a >dozen or so gave me much information about my elder rels. The LDS >folk have changed their ordering system so now it has to be done on >the internet, but if you contact your local library they will guide >you. Alternatively, you can go to: ><http://www.madaboutgenealogy.com/2010/01/11/lds-microfilm-ordering-now-online/>http://www.madaboutgenealogy.com/2010/01/11/lds-microfilm-ordering-now-online/ > > > >Hope this inspires you to do something greater for 2011 than what you >have already done. > >Good fortune >Graham >Melbourne >Oz > > > >REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. >Threaded Archives at - >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > >Searchable Archives at - >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carolyn, The early parish registers were often written in Latin. In the microfilm I'm currently reading (Arthuret, Cumbria), latin was used into the 1720s. The "-us" ending is the nominative and the "-i" ending is the genitive case. So an English entry of "Savage son of Henry Mason" would be written as "Savagius filius Henrici Mason". This IGI entry is extracted from the transcript of the Farnworth register published by the Lancashire Parish Register Society. (Click on the Source Call No. at the foot of the page). I've recommended before on the Liverpool list that you should order the microfilms of the parish registers into your local LDS library as there is often more information than what is extracted to go into the IGI and thus available on-line. David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn Parker Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 5:48 AM Thank you so much for your interest and suggestions.Do you think "Savagius" could be my "Savage?" What is the origin of Savagius? At 03:26 PM 1/4/2011, you wrote: >At 01:45 AM 4/01/2011, Carolyn Parker wrote: > >Hi Graham, > >Savage Mason, died May 8, 1739, Childwell, Lancashire; > >married Hannah ??, about 1690; > >Sevaral children , including Rebekah, born between 1691-1705; all in > >Childwell; > >That's all I know! > >Hi Carolyn > >Christening: 05 JUL 1663 Farnworth Near Prescot, Lancashire, England >Savagius Mason. >Father: Henrici Mason. > My first reaction was that it would be of much use, but perhaps >if you go to FamilySearch and go back to the old version, then enter >Family History Library, go to the library catalog, and then enter >under 'Place Name' Farnworth (near Preston) 'cos there are two of >them, go to Church Records and you will find a host of microfilms >which may enable you to solve your problem. > > > >Good fortune >Graham >Melbourne >Oz

At 08:48 AM 5/01/2011, you wrote: >Thank you so much for your interest and suggestions.Do you think >"Savagius" could be my "Savage?" What is the origin of Savagius? Hi Caroline. No, sorry, don't know the origin, though seems a little latin to me Anglicised later on to Savage. Many of the earlier entries in the established church were in latin or old English such as Fredericus for Frederick, Johannes for John, Jospehus for Joseph, Richardus for Richard. The coincidence is one I think too great to miss. Do you have an age at the death of your Savage Mason? Might pay to go looking, if that is possible. Cheers Graham