G'day Dave I have Hotchkiss interests in Clunbury, a couple of miles south of Edgton. Thomas Hotchkiss and Mary had the following children: William 1726 Elizabeth 1727 my ancestress, married Thomas Lucas in 1761 at Clunbury Thomas 1730 Mary 1732 Jeremiah 1734 Joanna 1737 Anne 1741 Regards David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave and Margaret To: eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] Hotchkiss/Cleverly Hi Yvonne, I have a Samuel Hotchkiss who married Martha Whittall 9 May 1784 in Edgton,Shropshire. They had a daughter Ann christened 12 Feb 1786 in Edgton. I also have other Hotchkiss's from later dates Alfred Henry 1877 Lydbury North. Samuel 1879 Lydbury North William father of the two above 1845 Clun I hope that this is of use to you. Dave Whittall in Shaky Christchurch New Zealand over 1000 after shakes so far. and who is counting.Me me me it really disturbs your sleep.

Thank you for your prompt reply in view of your current position, I hope you have stopped shaking and can get a good nights sleep. How long has it been going now? We heard about the terrible storm you had but didn't realise you were still suffering. We have friends in West Melton Christchurch, I hope they are OK. Thank you for the info about Samuel Hotchkiss, not the one I am interested in but it is an unusual name and they will be connected somehow. I live in Cheshire which is the next county but records that far back are not easy to come by. Bye for now Yvonne

Does anyone know of a family named Cleverly in Shropshire during the 16/17th century please? Also does anyone have any information about John Hotchkiss of Whitchurch who was a draper and his son Samuel. Thank you

Hello, I have found a death for a Lillian SOUTHERN in 1978 in Shrewsbury. I have a Lillian MORRIS who married Sydney SOUTHERN in 1932 in Leigh, Lancashire.  Lillian was born in Sep qtr 1905 in Leigh, Lancashire. The possible death I have found gives Lillian's birth date as 6th July 1905. I would like to hear from anyone who knows the above Lillian SOUTHERN. THanks Cynthia

Hi All The old Julian Calender was changed to the Gregorian Calender in 1752 in Britain and the New Year officially started on the 1 January. Before yhat date the 25 March was the start of the year. The 11 March 1618 would be that as it would not become 1619 until 25 March Should also add that many treated the 1 January as the beginning of the year bore 1752. Regards Jim Hill - Melbourne -----Original Message----- From: eng-shropshire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-shropshire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike in Droitwich Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 4:59 AM To: pentrueman@cytanet.com.cy; eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] The TREVOR Family Hi I believe the IGI already takes this into account and the actual date in the register will be 11 March 1617/18 . This why you quite often get patron submissions a year different to the extracted entries. Mike in Droitwich pentrueman wrote: > also Chris, bear in mind that the 11th March 1618 was probably 1619 in modern terms. > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. Threaded Archives at - http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives Searchable Archives at - http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I believe the IGI already takes this into account and the actual date in the register will be 11 March 1617/18 . This why you quite often get patron submissions a year different to the extracted entries. Mike in Droitwich pentrueman wrote: > also Chris, bear in mind that the 11th March 1618 was probably 1619 in modern terms. >

Hello Chris If you haven't checked recently, it is well worth doing an Internet search for any parishes in Shropshire (and other counties) where you know or think the registers were printed about a hundred years ago because they are now out of copyright and an assortment of copies are available online. With Whittington, and probably many other parishes, the name occurs in more than one county so you need to make sure you look at those for the correct county. Whittington Printed Register is being sold by Anguline Research Archives, either direct from them at www.anguline.co.uk or through their eBay site. Many other parishes can be found free on the Internet Archive at www.archive.org or on Google Books. Mike Shropshire, UK ________________________________________ ---------------------------------------- > To: ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 02:29:47 -0400 > From: cegaules62@aol.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] The TREVOR Family > > > Hi everybody its nice to be back on here once more ! Is there anybody with access to Parish records look up a christening of a EDWARD TREVOR, BORN 1618 WHITTINGTON. Also a marriage between a JOHN TREVOR and ANNIE HIGGONS 1592, ST.JULIANS , SHREWSBURY. > Any help would really be appreciated. > Many thanks in anticipation > Chris Gaules > > > > > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

also Chris, bear in mind that the 11th March 1618 was probably 1619 in modern terms. ----- Original Message Follows ----- From: Cegaules62 <cegaules62@aol.com> To: ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] The TREVOR Family Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 02:29:47 -0400 > Hi everybody its nice to be back on here once more ! Is there anybody with access to Parish records look up a christening of a EDWARD TREVOR, BORN 1618 WHITTINGTON. Also a marriage between a JOHN TREVOR and ANNIE HIGGONS 1592, ST.JULIANS , SHREWSBURY. > Any help would really be appreciated. > Many thanks in anticipation > Chris Gaules > > > > > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Chris, did you get your information from the IGI site? Pen ----- Original Message Follows ----- From: Cegaules62 <cegaules62@aol.com> To: ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] The TREVOR Family Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 02:29:47 -0400 > Hi everybody its nice to be back on here once more ! Is there anybody with access to Parish records look up a christening of a EDWARD TREVOR, BORN 1618 WHITTINGTON. Also a marriage between a JOHN TREVOR and ANNIE HIGGONS 1592, ST.JULIANS , SHREWSBURY. > Any help would really be appreciated. > Many thanks in anticipation > Chris Gaules > > > > > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Edward Trevor, christened 11th March 1618, Whittington, Shropshire; father: John Trevor. Batch Number P018211. Best wishes, Penny ----- Original Message Follows ----- From: Cegaules62 <cegaules62@aol.com> To: ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] The TREVOR Family Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 02:29:47 -0400 > Hi everybody its nice to be back on here once more ! Is there anybody with access to Parish records look up a christening of a EDWARD TREVOR, BORN 1618 WHITTINGTON. Also a marriage between a JOHN TREVOR and ANNIE HIGGONS 1592, ST.JULIANS , SHREWSBURY. > Any help would really be appreciated. > Many thanks in anticipation > Chris Gaules > > > > > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi everybody its nice to be back on here once more ! Is there anybody with access to Parish records look up a christening of a EDWARD TREVOR, BORN 1618 WHITTINGTON. Also a marriage between a JOHN TREVOR and ANNIE HIGGONS 1592, ST.JULIANS , SHREWSBURY. Any help would really be appreciated. Many thanks in anticipation Chris Gaules

I am seeking to confirm the parentage of Richard BENBOW (or BEMBO, or BEMBOW), who was born around 1833, and died in Llananno (Radnorshire) in 1862. Census records show his birthplace as Kerry (Ceri) in Montgomeryshire, but I have not found a baptismal record there. His marriage certificate names his father as Price BEMBO, farmer. One of two likely candidates is a Price/Pryce BENBOW/BEMBO/BEMBOW (1775, Newtown, MGY - 1860, Kerry) who was discussed in this list some years ago: after farming in Kerry he married his second wife, Elizabeth CROFT, in Norbury in Shropshire in 1820, and in 1841 they are at the Seven Stars in Pontesbury, with a ten-year old daughter Jane. Any help in tracing a baptismal record or in finding further information would be greatly appreciated. Shirley (in Powys)

I have recently subscribed to this list in the hope of finding more information about Radnorshire and Montgomeryshire ancestors who spent time over the border in Shropshire. Firstly, I am seeking the marriage record of Richard MORGAN(S) and his first wife Martha (probably around 1820), details of her parentage, and any christening records for their children. Richard was born in 1798 in Llanbadarn Fynydd (RAD), and census records for 1841 and 1851 show them in Beguildy (RAD) and Kerry (MGY), but their eldest daughter Elizabeth is said to be born in 1821 in Bettws, Salop (possibly Bettws-y-Crwyn?). Martha was not born in Radnorshire, but no other details are given. (Later children are Thomas, b. 1825, Mary, b .1830, Richard, b. 1833, and John, b. 1837, but these were probably born in Radnorshire.) I should be grateful for any help with this. Shirley

Mike Thanks for this - next time I'll read a bit better. I now remember I saw a mention of this on Twitter a few months back, someone was taken on an Ancestry tour and took a photo of them scanning these indexes. I posted the Twitpic to one of the Rootsweb lists I subscribe to, and someone replied that this wasn't the wills indexes. If I recall correctly, they were indexes retrieved from somewhere and it said at the time this was incomplete. Alison On 11 August 2010 07:49, Michael J Hulme <mjhulme@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hello Alison > > If you scroll down the front page from the link in my original message > there is a paragraph about 'Missing volumes'. For some reason they have > been working from an incomplete set although there must be plenty of > copies about the UK. > > Mike > Shropshire, UK > _____________________________________________ > > Alison Bryan wrote: >> Mike - thanks for letting us know.  Is any reason cited why this >> doesn't start 1858/9? >> >> Alison >> >> On 10 August 2010 22:51, Michael J Hulme <mjhulme@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> For those of you who have access to Ancestry UK they have just announced >>> one of their best collections of data to date. >>> >>> England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and >>> Administrations),1861-1941. >>> >>> There are a few gaps at present. This link should take you straight to >>> the collection >>> http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1904 >>> >>> Enjoy. >>> >>> Mike >>> Shropshire, UK >> >> REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. >> Threaded Archives at - >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives >> >> Searchable Archives at - >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Marvellous, Mike. I can access them from our library. I've been using the index microfilms through LDS with some success but, hopefully, this will now makes things much easier. Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz

Hello Alison If you scroll down the front page from the link in my original message there is a paragraph about 'Missing volumes'. For some reason they have been working from an incomplete set although there must be plenty of copies about the UK. Mike Shropshire, UK _____________________________________________ Alison Bryan wrote: > Mike - thanks for letting us know. Is any reason cited why this > doesn't start 1858/9? > > Alison > > On 10 August 2010 22:51, Michael J Hulme <mjhulme@hotmail.com> wrote: >> For those of you who have access to Ancestry UK they have just announced >> one of their best collections of data to date. >> >> England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and >> Administrations),1861-1941. >> >> There are a few gaps at present. This link should take you straight to >> the collection >> http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1904 >> >> Enjoy. >> >> Mike >> Shropshire, UK > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Mike - thanks for letting us know. Is any reason cited why this doesn't start 1858/9? Alison On 10 August 2010 22:51, Michael J Hulme <mjhulme@hotmail.com> wrote: > For those of you who have access to Ancestry UK they have just announced > one of their best collections of data to date. > > England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and > Administrations),1861-1941. > > There are a few gaps at present. This link should take you straight to > the collection > http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1904 > > Enjoy. > > Mike > Shropshire, UK

For those of you who have access to Ancestry UK they have just announced one of their best collections of data to date. England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941. There are a few gaps at present. This link should take you straight to the collection http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1904 Enjoy. Mike Shropshire, UK

Really great site, found many of my family....TKS MIKE ELEANORE USA -----Original Message----- From: eng-shropshire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-shropshire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael J Hulme Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:51 PM To: Eng-Shropshire-Plus Rootsweb Subject: [ENG-SHROP] Probate (Wills) Calendars 1861-1941 now on Ancestry UK For those of you who have access to Ancestry UK they have just announced one of their best collections of data to date. England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941. There are a few gaps at present. This link should take you straight to the collection http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1904 Enjoy. Mike Shropshire, UK REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. Threaded Archives at - http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives Searchable Archives at - http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gordon, You need to supply more information like where John was born. You should have this from 1871 and 1881 census. Then it should just be a case of following him back through census records. 1841 and 1851 will possibly find him with parents. You can then use Family Search to verify parents and find their marriage. If in Lancashire you might need Lancs OLPC. But without a birthplace there will be thousands of possibilities. Peter in Sydney