HI I give up on a brick wall!! Has anyone got any info on the parents/family of Susanna (h) WALKER who was married to Daniel RIGBY apr 1831 in Shifnal but lived in Oakengates/ Wombridge? I have them in the censuses from 1841 onwards; I even have a Robert WALKER living in Wombridge close by with a Lucy WALKER Nee HASSALL in the census for 1841/51/61/81/who may have been a relation. Regards Barry

Mavis has replied to me off-list and I think I may be able to help her as the person she is looking for would be in Victoria, my home state, so all being well........ tomorrow in research is another day.l Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz

At 08:04 PM 5/01/2011, Michael wrote: >Please note that there is a Chatwall (a instead of e)about 2 miles SE of >Longnor in Shropshire on the other side of The Lawley hill. Mike comes up trumps again as usual. Great to see you on the list Mike with your usual knowledge of Shropshire. Sure beats the gazetteers and other maps! Happy New Year. Graham

At 08:02 PM 5/01/2011, Peter wrote: >Mavis, ><<<<snip>>>> "I probably should also warn about privacy issues should the person want to maintain their anonymity." Yes, Mavis, probably better to give us the name OFF-LIST for that reason. No problem there. Cheers Graham

Mavis, We need a name, approximate age, date of migration, last known address and any spouse or children. Unfortunately we don't have things like quarterly BMD indexes right up to 2010. But as people have said, we can access white pages, electoral rolls and the like. You might also try Googling their name in quotation marks. They may an internet user somewhere. I probably should also warn about privacy issues should the person want to maintain their anonymity. Peter in Sydney

At 06:56 PM 5/01/2011, you wrote: >Sorry this is off topic, but I urgently need help to find a living relation >in Australia and would be most grateful for any help in finding him. >Happy New Year to Everyone >Mavis in Canterbury, UK Hello Mavis If you can give some details I may be able to help, located in Melbourne Australia, with a magnificent State Library full of luscious records in Melbourne. Have Victoria State BMD's 1800s to 1920s, marriages to 1942, and can access some other States records through the 1800s. Glad to help, if the details fit within the time periods. Probably need to have earlier information, but naturally electoral rolls from the 1920s to 2010 are available also. Often it is a matter of searching through earlier records, electoral rolls for parents, grandparents etc. which then hopefully leads on to living relatives. Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz

Have you tried the white pages online? http://www.whitepages.com.au/ What info do you have? Cheers MaryB Brisbane,Aus. On 5/01/2011 5:56 PM, Mavis G Todd wrote: > Sorry this is off topic, but I urgently need help to find a living relation > in Australia and would be most grateful for any help in finding him. > > Happy New Year to Everyone > > Mavis in Canterbury, UK > > > > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sorry to be taking up so much space, but must be New Year itches or something. Pat, that William Bullock could even be Mary's younger brother! Graham

Hi Pat I now see your family on the 1841, as FindMyPast have indexed the family as DAYERS, so I have sent them a correction message on that. Hopefully they will see that it is DAYUS. Of course, it doesn't give much more info except that Samuel as a farmer and malster may indeed have moved around searching for a place to settle down. Shame we can't have 1831 census!!! Oh, and hey!!!! Did you notice that there was a William Bullock living in the household as a male servant, 19-year-old. Wouldn't you give your own family first preference, eh, on this big property as servants? Could well be a nephew of Mary, if she was indeed the Mary Bullock in the marriage! Fascinating. Keep on. Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz

Hi again Still into this. I notice on the 1851 census there is Samuel Dayus no date of birth in the index, but appears to be 60 on the image (which fits with your knowledge), born Chatwell, Salop, Mary his wife 39 born Dorrington, Salop; Charles, son, 13 born Longnor. Then Emma, Robert, Lucy & Fanny all born Longnor. All of these are living at Longnor Hall, Longnor. Hmmmn, Chatwell, a hamlet near the Staffordshire border, so he was not born Longnor. Difficult to say where he may have been baptised, perhaps Telford, perhaps Lilleshall, perhaps Newport. There is one Samuel Dayus who might fit, baptised at Tugford, St. Catherine's 07 Mar 1787 - not so far from Chatwell though one would need a good reason for being there - poss if the family was moving around agriculturally wise. Dorrington, where Mary came from, is close to Shrewsbury so one can easily understand if the marriage was in Shrewsbury. Unfortunately, re. Mary, if she was Mary Bullock, there are numerous possibilities born and baptised around that area 1811-1814. More info needed. Cheers Graham

PS. Longmore transcriptions are also available from 1586 to 1812. Volume 5, Diocese of Lichfield. Cheers Graham

At 02:57 PM 5/01/2011, you wrote: >I am trying to find the marraige of Samuel Dayus to Mary Unknown. I >think their first child Charles Dayus was born in 1838 in Longnor >and Samuel died in 1858. Hi Pat The new FamilySearch shows one very likely marriage: Samuel Dayus & Mary Bullock 24 April 1837 at St. Chad's Shrewsbury. Date certainly fits. I could have a bo-peep at this index within the book version of St. Chad's transcriptions by the Shropshire Parish Register Society or the microfiche which are resident within the State Library of Victoria when the library re-opens. Though I see you live in Melbourne and may be able to do this for yourself, if not let me know and I'll gladly check it out because at that late date the registers may show Witnesses! And if there are any baptisms there, may show district or town. The Ann Dayus in the 1841 census could be a niece come to visit and perhaps help out as a housemaid. Cheers Graham Melbourne

I am trying to find the marraige of Samuel Dayus to Mary Unknown. I think their first child Charles Dayus was born in 1838 in Longnor and Samuel died in 1858. The 1841 Census says that he was born in 1791 but that is approximate I know and on the same census there is Ann Dayus aged 17 living with the family so I wonder if perhaps he had an earlier marraige. It would also be great if I could find parents for this man and take him back another generation. Cheers from sunny Melbourne. Pat

At 08:48 AM 5/01/2011, you wrote: >Thank you so much for your interest and suggestions.Do you think >"Savagius" could be my "Savage?" What is the origin of Savagius? Hi Caroline. No, sorry, don't know the origin, though seems a little latin to me Anglicised later on to Savage. Many of the earlier entries in the established church were in latin or old English such as Fredericus for Frederick, Johannes for John, Jospehus for Joseph, Richardus for Richard. The coincidence is one I think too great to miss. Do you have an age at the death of your Savage Mason? Might pay to go looking, if that is possible. Cheers Graham

David - thank you so much! this clears up the mystery - there are several other Masons with ius endings on the same film. Carolyn At 06:29 PM 1/4/2011, you wrote: >Carolyn, > >The early parish registers were often written in Latin. In the microfilm >I'm currently reading (Arthuret, Cumbria), latin was used into the 1720s. >The "-us" ending is the nominative and the "-i" ending is the genitive case. > >So an English entry of "Savage son of Henry Mason" would be written as >"Savagius filius Henrici Mason". > >This IGI entry is extracted from the transcript of the Farnworth register >published by the Lancashire Parish Register Society. (Click on the Source >Call No. at the foot of the page). > >I've recommended before on the Liverpool list that you should order the >microfilms of the parish registers into your local LDS library as there is >often more information than what is extracted to go into the IGI and thus >available on-line. > >David Armstrong >Maylands, >Western Australia > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Carolyn Parker >Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 5:48 AM > >Thank you so much for your interest and suggestions.Do you think >"Savagius" could be my "Savage?" What is the origin of Savagius? > >At 03:26 PM 1/4/2011, you wrote: > >At 01:45 AM 4/01/2011, Carolyn Parker wrote: > > >Hi Graham, > > >Savage Mason, died May 8, 1739, Childwell, Lancashire; > > >married Hannah ??, about 1690; > > >Sevaral children , including Rebekah, born between 1691-1705; all in > > >Childwell; > > >That's all I know! > > > >Hi Carolyn > > > >Christening: 05 JUL 1663 Farnworth Near Prescot, Lancashire, England > >Savagius Mason. > >Father: Henrici Mason. > > >My first reaction was that it would be of much use, but perhaps > >if you go to FamilySearch and go back to the old version, then enter > >Family History Library, go to the library catalog, and then enter > >under 'Place Name' Farnworth (near Preston) 'cos there are two of > >them, go to Church Records and you will find a host of microfilms > >which may enable you to solve your problem. > > > > > > >Good fortune > >Graham > >Melbourne > >Oz > > >REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. >Threaded Archives at - >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > >Searchable Archives at - >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello <snip> born Chatwell, Salop, ... Hmmmn, Chatwell, a hamlet near the Staffordshire border, ... <snip> Please note that there is a Chatwall (a instead of e)about 2 miles SE of Longnor in Shropshire on the other side of The Lawley hill. Mike Shropshire, UK

Pat, As I have already said in my previous reply to you - this is my family. Samuel DAYUS (1791-1858) was born at Chatwall Lawn, Cardington in 1791, the fifth child and eldest of two sons of Samuel DAYUS and Margaret, nee HICKMAN. Baptised at Cardington 7 March 1791. He married (1) Mary DEAKIN a widow, nee JONES, 29 July 1816 Condover. 5 children born at Longnor. Mary died 1836. Samuel then married (2) Mary BULLOCK 24 April 1837 St Chads, Shrewsbury. 7 children born at Longnor. Of which, Charles, the eldest was born 26 January 1838. (In answer to Graham Price's comments) 1. The Ann DAYUS aged 17 was a daughter of the 1st marriage. 2. Chatwall Lawn is a hamlet in the parish of Cardington just a few miles from Longnor. 3. The Bullock family came from Dorrington and Condover. 4. The family lived at Grove Farm, Longnor. Not Longnor Hall. Samuel was a farmer, maltster and veterinary surgeon. If the 'friend of a friend' would like any further information on this family I suggest he contacts me direct. With regards, Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Rawlings" <jessie@satlink.com.au> To: <eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 3:57 AM Subject: [ENG-SHROP] Samuel Dayus - Longnor >I am trying to find the marraige of Samuel Dayus to Mary Unknown. I think >their first child Charles Dayus was born in 1838 in Longnor and Samuel died >in 1858. The 1841 Census says that he was born in 1791 but that is >approximate I know and on the same census there is Ann Dayus aged 17 living >with the family so I wonder if perhaps he had an earlier marraige. It >would also be great if I could find parents for this man and take him back >another generation. Cheers from sunny Melbourne. Pat > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry this is off topic, but I urgently need help to find a living relation in Australia and would be most grateful for any help in finding him. Happy New Year to Everyone Mavis in Canterbury, UK

Carolyn, The early parish registers were often written in Latin. In the microfilm I'm currently reading (Arthuret, Cumbria), latin was used into the 1720s. The "-us" ending is the nominative and the "-i" ending is the genitive case. So an English entry of "Savage son of Henry Mason" would be written as "Savagius filius Henrici Mason". This IGI entry is extracted from the transcript of the Farnworth register published by the Lancashire Parish Register Society. (Click on the Source Call No. at the foot of the page). I've recommended before on the Liverpool list that you should order the microfilms of the parish registers into your local LDS library as there is often more information than what is extracted to go into the IGI and thus available on-line. David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn Parker Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 5:48 AM Thank you so much for your interest and suggestions.Do you think "Savagius" could be my "Savage?" What is the origin of Savagius? At 03:26 PM 1/4/2011, you wrote: >At 01:45 AM 4/01/2011, Carolyn Parker wrote: > >Hi Graham, > >Savage Mason, died May 8, 1739, Childwell, Lancashire; > >married Hannah ??, about 1690; > >Sevaral children , including Rebekah, born between 1691-1705; all in > >Childwell; > >That's all I know! > >Hi Carolyn > >Christening: 05 JUL 1663 Farnworth Near Prescot, Lancashire, England >Savagius Mason. >Father: Henrici Mason. > My first reaction was that it would be of much use, but perhaps >if you go to FamilySearch and go back to the old version, then enter >Family History Library, go to the library catalog, and then enter >under 'Place Name' Farnworth (near Preston) 'cos there are two of >them, go to Church Records and you will find a host of microfilms >which may enable you to solve your problem. > > > >Good fortune >Graham >Melbourne >Oz

At 01:45 AM 4/01/2011, Carolyn Parker wrote: >Hi Graham, >Savage Mason, died May 8, 1739, Childwell, Lancashire; >married Hannah ??, about 1690; >Sevaral children , including Rebekah, born between 1691-1705; all in >Childwell; >That's all I know! Hi Carolyn My Ellesmere transcriptions only commence at 1739, so no help there, but they have been placed on FamilySearch IGI and no such person comes up being christened etc. at Ellesmere. However, did you not see the following, which is surely your man? Christening: 05 JUL 1663 Farnworth Near Prescot, Lancashire, England Savagius Mason. Father: Henrici Mason. I initially thought that the microfiche this information was extracted from could be of use to you as it may contain more information. No. 6904131. But it is only an extraction of indexes, alas. My first reaction was that it would be of much use, but perhaps if you go to FamilySearch and go back to the old version, then enter Family History Library, go to the library catalog, and then enter under 'Place Name' Farnworth (near Preston) 'cos there are two of them, go to Church Records and you will find a host of microfilms which may enable you to solve your problem. These microfilms may be obtained through any LDS (Mormon) family history libraries anywhere in the world and the cost is minimal. Simply $7 here in Oz. Over the years I have had more than 200 microfilms of original parish registers and Bishops transcripts and all except for about half a dozen or so gave me much information about my elder rels. The LDS folk have changed their ordering system so now it has to be done on the internet, but if you contact your local library they will guide you. Alternatively, you can go to: <http://www.madaboutgenealogy.com/2010/01/11/lds-microfilm-ordering-now-online/>http://www.madaboutgenealogy.com/2010/01/11/lds-microfilm-ordering-now-online/ Hope this inspires you to do something greater for 2011 than what you have already done. Good fortune Graham Melbourne Oz