Hi John, If you have access to Ancestry there is a search option where you put in name, year of birth and place of birth etc. There is another option where you can click on the county from a list of all the counties. This then takes you into a list of towns within that county, so you can click on that which gives you a list of smaller places. When you finally find the small village or area you want, you will get two options:- 1. View description of enumeration district 2. list of districts available Also the rolls of census films/fiche are still usually available in the Record Offices of the census area, which can be a town, or the county record office. Hope that helps, Anouska ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Yahoo" <ejohnsands@yahoo.co.uk> > To: <ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 4:16 PM > Subject: [ENG-SHROP] Census Returns > > >> Hi list >> >> One possibly for Mike or Graham. >> >> When I traced my family back through the 1841 -1871 censuses in 1980 it >> was >> a case of scrolling through reels of microfilm at what was then the Local >> Studies Library in, I seem to recall, temporary accommodation in St >> Mary's >> Church Hall. My people lived in the country, so no street names and >> numbers. >> The area is identified on a sheet at the beginning of a section which >> reads, >> for example, "All that part of the Township of Whixall in the Parish of >> Prees which lies west of the road leading from Cotton Turnpike Gate to >> Ellesmere including 11 houses on the N.E. side of the said road between >> Cotton Gate and Bostocks Hall which 11 houses are up to the road side". I >> noted a few of these, but by no means all - in most cases only the name >> of >> the township. >> >> At some time in the future I would like to see where, or whereabouts, my >> ancestors actually lived. >> >> Does anyone know >> a) if these "lead" pages can be accessed through Ancestry >> b) if so, how >> c) if it is then possible to identify which pages each refers to >> >> and as a last resort >> d) if and where the rolls of microfilm are still available? >> >> Thanks >> >> John >> >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== >> The 'SUBJECT' line is the first thing others will see - use it wisely. >> PLEASE do not just click on 'reply' - Change the subject line to describe >> more accurately the subject of *your* message. >> This is particularly important when replying to a 'Digest' >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> >> > >

Hello John I have tried in the past to access the Enumerators description of his route on Ancestry but like you I was unable to do so. I even tried using the Previous Page arrow at the top of each page but that only allows you to go backwards to the first page of people not to the description of the route. On the 1901 Census web site you can see the Enumerators route pages free of charge by doing a Place name search then selecting 'Description of Enumeration District' from the drop down list on the right hand side of the page. I don't know what the position is with other web sites which offer the census online. Perhaps someone who has used one of the others can let us all know if the Enumerators route pages can be downloaded. As far as the rolls of microfilm are concerned, fortunately they were replaced by microfiche at Shrewsbury when the new archives building opened some years ago. Whether you look at the microfiche at Shropshire Archives or the Family Record Centre in London you might like to take your digital camera with you, if you have one, then you may be able to get some reasonable images depending on the microfiche viewer you get on the day. Mike ______________________________________________________ Yahoo wrote: > Hi list > > One possibly for Mike or Graham. > > When I traced my family back through the 1841 -1871 censuses in 1980 it was > a case of scrolling through reels of microfilm at what was then the Local > Studies Library in, I seem to recall, temporary accommodation in St Mary's > Church Hall. My people lived in the country, so no street names and numbers. > The area is identified on a sheet at the beginning of a section which reads, > for example, "All that part of the Township of Whixall in the Parish of > Prees which lies west of the road leading from Cotton Turnpike Gate to > Ellesmere including 11 houses on the N.E. side of the said road between > Cotton Gate and Bostocks Hall which 11 houses are up to the road side". I > noted a few of these, but by no means all - in most cases only the name of > the township. > > At some time in the future I would like to see where, or whereabouts, my > ancestors actually lived. > > Does anyone know > a) if these "lead" pages can be accessed through Ancestry > b) if so, how > c) if it is then possible to identify which pages each refers to > > and as a last resort > d) if and where the rolls of microfilm are still available? > > Thanks > > John > > > > > ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== > The 'SUBJECT' line is the first thing others will see - use it wisely. PLEASE do not just click on 'reply' - Change the subject line to describe more accurately the subject of *your* message. > This is particularly important when replying to a 'Digest' > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > >

Hello Ian I have just got the address details from the BT web site. There was an active branch in Shrewsbury about twenty years ago but I don't know if it is still going. Ancient Order Of Foresters Friendly Society Tel: 01727 853960 13 Beaconsfield Rd, St Albans AL1 3RD Mike ______________________________________________________ ian.plimmer@ntlworld.com wrote: > Does anyone have any knowledge of the Ancient Order of Foresters Friendly Society, Shrewsbury District? > > Thanks > > Ian > > ;) > > ----------------------------------------- > Email sent from www.ntlworld.com > Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software > Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information > > > ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== > List archives can found at ~ > Searchable ~ http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS > Threaded ~ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > >

Does anyone have any knowledge of the Ancient Order of Foresters Friendly Society, Shrewsbury District? Thanks Ian ;) ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information

1) marriage settlement May 1789 between John PHILLIPS of Plealey, surgeon and Elizabeth ACHERLEY of Ellesmere, spinster other names mentioned: Thomas DICKIN of Wem, esquire Francis LLOYD of Berghill, esquire Edward ARCHERLEY of The Cross, esquire Thomas DAVIES Edward TIPTON Thomas REYNOLDS Philip PREES Thomas HILL John PLIMMER (my link) 2) trust "fund" June 1820 John PHILLIPS of Plealey (son of the above) other names on document: John PHILPOT of Southampton St, Bloomsbury Square, London John STONE of (as above) gent Walter BURLEY of Shrewsbury, gent John PHILLIPS (snr) Thomas DAVIES Edward TIPTON Thomas REYNOLDS Philip PREES Thomas HILL John PLIMMER (my link) Richard JONES John LEWIS Benjamin HUGHES Mary HILL both of the above relate to properties owned by the PHILLIPS family in Asterley, Shropshire and were occupied by the others, previously and/or at the time of the documents. Best wishes, Ian ;) ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information

Hi Graham, As usual you have brought up some good points. Wonder if there is anyone on this list who could tell us about the manpower which may be available in Pontesbury? Regards, Marjorie in Nevada, USA At 03:08 PM 9/04/2006, JMTsparks@aol.com wrote: > >>>>pray tell me why he is able to hold back these records of OUR >ancestors?>>>> Hi all Touchy one, this! He possibly uses it as a supplement to his stipend. I recall writing to a certain (name with-held) Anglican clergyman in Oswestry back about 15 years ago for some info of my family within "his" registers, > snip

At 07:55 AM 9/04/2006, you wrote: >I did notice a nonconformist church there too but cant remember what >denomination it was. >Sandi Pontesbury Baptist dissolved in 1841 Pontesbury Zion Primitive Methodist Chapel 1845-1970s Pontesbury Hill Wesleyan Methodist Chapel 1834- known 2002, probably still open. Cheers Graham Melbourne

At 03:08 PM 9/04/2006, JMTsparks@aol.com wrote: > >>>>pray tell me why he is able to hold back these records of OUR >ancestors?>>>> Hi all Touchy one, this! He possibly uses it as a supplement to his stipend. I recall writing to a certain (name with-held) Anglican clergyman in Oswestry back about 15 years ago for some info of my family within "his" registers, and naturally the cost was xxx etc. At the time I was quite content with that, and he did give me some information free for which I was very grateful. After all, it was his own free time I was using, and I expect that one ought to pay for that. But it does bring up a few questions. For instance, if these regs are held at the Pontesbury vicarage in 2006, how is one to get them online without a concerted effort from Pontesbury parishioners or other researchers willing to transcribe, providing that permission is given? It's not as if you are in a city where you have folk from the local genealogical society who can travel in a very short time to the vicarage to transcribe. Pontesbury, is after all, out there in the wild meadows of Shropshire away from fast transport (within context). You've heard this story before, I am sure, but the above reminds me of my antecedants Thomas & Martha Peate of Criggion within the Alberbury parish. Their tombstones were in Alberbury churchyard in very good condition, but a directive came from the Diocese to remove all the tombstones and plough up the graveyard. In the middle of winter the contractor attempted to get the parishioners, etc. to help him move the tombstones to a safe place around the churchyard, but no one turned up to help him, so he had no option, as the weather was against him and he had to move fast, but to follow the Diocese directive and plough in everything, firstly removing the tombstones and giving many of them to local farmers. I found that my Thomas & Martha's tombstones were given to a farmer who used them as ramps for his pigs and cattle. So, no one cared, no one did anything to help. If no one turns up, what can you do? Perhaps Pontesbury is a different situation, I don't really know. But if no one is there to do things, then records certainly will not be made available. As for Pontesbury records up to 1812, I have access to them via the Shropshire Parish Register Society transcriptions, held within our State Library of victoria, and am quite willing to do look-ups for anyone. Cherrio Graham Melbourne Oz

Hi Alwyn, I walked the Stiperstones last Summer and it was open then. Managed to obtain an attractive leaflet there on that occasion. I think that there was a teashop there too. Lots of well signposted footpaths open. They were,however cutting down the trees in the Nipstone Rock area which made walking at that time a little treacherous. My wife's father Arthur Pugh was brought up at Jubilee House just below that area next to the road. Best wishes Leon

Hi list One possibly for Mike or Graham. When I traced my family back through the 1841 -1871 censuses in 1980 it was a case of scrolling through reels of microfilm at what was then the Local Studies Library in, I seem to recall, temporary accommodation in St Mary's Church Hall. My people lived in the country, so no street names and numbers. The area is identified on a sheet at the beginning of a section which reads, for example, "All that part of the Township of Whixall in the Parish of Prees which lies west of the road leading from Cotton Turnpike Gate to Ellesmere including 11 houses on the N.E. side of the said road between Cotton Gate and Bostocks Hall which 11 houses are up to the road side". I noted a few of these, but by no means all - in most cases only the name of the township. At some time in the future I would like to see where, or whereabouts, my ancestors actually lived. Does anyone know a) if these "lead" pages can be accessed through Ancestry b) if so, how c) if it is then possible to identify which pages each refers to and as a last resort d) if and where the rolls of microfilm are still available? Thanks John

Does anybody know if the Stiperstones Bog Mine Centre is still going? The last time I was in the area it had been shut down due to the foot and mouth problem. I was hoping that it would now be up and running again and that I would be able to take the family there during this holiday period. However the page that use to give details about the centre on the council's website http://www.shropshire.gov.uk/countryside.nsf/0/f137254b06fe243f80256c9800368 e06?OpenDocument Says "This document page has been removed from the website." Is this because the centre is no longer open? Many members of my Shropshire family worked in the lead mines. All the best Alwyn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.0/305 - Release Date: 08/04/2006

I'm seeking to contact descendants of, or anyone who has knowledge of, any members of an EVANS family of LLANGYNOG, Montgomeryshire that include ROBERT EVANS b.1844, (son of ROBERT EVANS b. DOLGELLY, Merionethshire 1844), and his wife JANE; their eldest son, ROBERT EVANS, b.1864, died in France, 1916, (married to HANNAH MARIA and living in MERTHYR TYDFIL at the time of his enlistment); other children, JOHN, HUMPHREY, ELLINOR, WILLIAM, DAVID, OWEN, EDWARD. If this family features in your family tree, I would be most pleased to hear from you. David

> thanks to everyone who posted replies to my original post > > on the IGI on line I did find my ancestor Edward PLIMMER > > EDWD. PLIMMER > Male > Event(s): > Christening: 05 SEP 1791 Pontesbury, Shropshire, England > Parents: > Father: JOHN PLIMMER Family > Mother: MARY > > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/individual_record.asp?recid=500032931005&lds=1&region=2&regionfriendly=British+Isles&juris1=Engl&juris2=Shro&juris3=&juris4=&regionfriendly=&juris1friendly=England&juris2friendly=Shropshire+%28Salop%29&juris3friendly=&juris4friendly= > > best wishes, > > Ian > > ;) > > ----------------------------------------- > Email sent from www.ntlworld.com > Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software > Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information

From: "Michael J Hulme" <mike@mjhulme.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> {not a subscriber} Hello Everyone If any of you are able to listen to BBC Radio Shropshire on Monday 10th April between 10am and 11am (British Summer Time) they are having a Family History phone in for listeners. If you don't live in Shropshire you can listen on the Internet at http://www.bbc.co.uk/shropshire/ then click on the Listen Live link at the bottom right hand corner. You can of course e-mail questions in if you live outside the UK. Mike

Hello Everyone Somehow I managed to miss the beginning of this discussion but you might find the following two web sites of interest even if public access to the register information is still some way off. The first project below has been going for a few years. http://www.lhi.org.uk/projects_directory/projects_by_region/west_midlands/shropshire/unfolding_pontesburys_cultural_heritage_phase_1/index.html http://www.countryside.gov.uk/LAR/Regions/WestMidlands/activities/vitalVillages/lhi_shrops.asp Mike ______________________________________________________ JMTsparks@aol.com wrote: > Hi Sandi, > > How do we convince him that the WORLD needs to have access to these records? > I for one find this to be unbelievable in the year 2006. This is a matter of > public record. pray tell me why he is able to hold back these records of OUR > ancestors? > > Regards, > Marjorie > > > ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== > List archives can found at ~ > Searchable ~ http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS > Threaded ~ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > >

Thought you may be interested to know that the church records are still with the vicar at Pontsbury Church, so you wont find them anywhere else. I made an appointment and went and looked through them with the vicar. I did notice a nonconformist church there too but cant remember what denomination it was. Sandi -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/298 - Release Date: 30/03/2006

Hi Sandi, How do we convince him that the WORLD needs to have access to these records? I for one find this to be unbelievable in the year 2006. This is a matter of public record. pray tell me why he is able to hold back these records of OUR ancestors? Regards, Marjorie

William Hand was baptised at St Mary Magdelene church in Bridgnorth on 13-4-1792. He was the son of William Hand who married Sarah Rhodes at the same church on 6-5-1788. Was William senior the William Hand who was baptised at Quatt on 16-8-1755 or was he the one who was baptised at Beckbury on 7-9-1755.???? Any help much appreciated. Dave Jackson at Ashby-de-la-Zouch.

Hello Gord Wills prior to 1858 for Shrewsbury and the northern half of Shropshire are at the Lichfield Record Office http://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/leisure/archives/Lichfield+Record+Office/ because that is the Diocesan Archive for Lichfield Diocese which covers north Shropshire. As far as I can see from a quick look at their site the Wills Indexes are not yet online. Mike ______________________________________________________ gordpace@eagle.ca wrote: > > Perhaps someone can help. > Would you know where I'd look for a will? > > for > JOSEPH/JOSHUA PACE below > > I've never thought to ask about a will of a Shropshire ancestor. > Would these be stored at the Shropshire Register Office in Shrewsbury? > > I figure my 7X great grandfather JOSEPH Pace might have been a merchant > > I'm rather satisfied, I've found all his children, only three > > looking at the many PR's on the LDS site for north Shropshire but > maybe there's always something more to find or learn from someone else. > > only three children > and 10 years between 1st & 2nd child, > then 5 years between 2nd & 3rd > Joseph/Joshua was a merchant and didn't need a lot of children. > > If you have an idea on this, > I'd be glad to hear what you think. > > My 7X great grandfather? > These are briefly the events I've found: > > JOSUAH PACE > Christening: 07 JUN 1618 > PREES, Shropshire > Father: ROWLAND PACE > > This name, in the records, is rather obscure. > The last letter looks like an H. > The first is a J but in between is unclear. > > wife > > JOSHUAH PACE > MARGARETTE PALLMER > Marriage 04 MAR 1653 > HIGH ERCALL Shropshire > > + MARGARETTE PALLMER > married 04 MAR 1653 > HIGH ERCALL, Shropshire > > Her Christening: 05 JUN 1631 > WELLINGTON, Shropshire > Father: FRANCIS PALMER > Mother: ANNE > Batch Number: C037524 > > PALMER Records > - http://www.phc.igs.net/~gordpace/records/palmer.htm > > children > the way I figure it > > ANNE PACE > - Chr 02 NOV 1655 > RODINGTON, Shropshire > - Father: JOSEH PACE > > JOHN PACE > - Chr 22 Sep 1665 > WROCKWARDINE, Shropshire > - Father JOSEPH PACE > - Mother MARGARET - P006621 > > GEORGE PACE - (my 6X great grandfather) > - Chr 28 May 1670 > PREES, Shropshire > - Father: JOSEPH PACE > - Mother not mentioned > but George's 1st child also named MARGARET > > http://www.phc.igs.net/~gordpace/uk/prees.htm > > I have collected many PACE & related Shropshire records > and have an index at: > > http://www.phc.igs.net/~gordpace/records/index.htm > > feel free to make use of them, > We're all helping each other, > a great way to be in this world. > > I was to Wrockwardine, Wellington, Prees last April/May > and also met my Cullwick researching cousins > > Wonderful place, England > Been back several times now. > > Gord Pace, Ontario Canada > http://www.phc.igs.net/~gordpace/ > > > > > ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== > If you have sources of guaranteed information for family > history/genealogy research, please post brief details to the list and > volunteer to do look-ups - every little helps. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

Oops, for Cheery Orchard read Cherry Orchard! Graham WILLIAMS Shropshire Family History Society -----Original Message----- From: AMilb36287@aol.com [mailto:AMilb36287@aol.com] Sent: 08 April 2006 21:07 To: ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-SHROP] Finding a Shrewsbury neighbourhood in the 1871 Census I'm trying to locate the (modern?) Shrewsbury neighbourhood of Cherry Orchard in the 1871 Census in Ancestry. It's just northeast of the Abbey. However, Ancestry does not group the different sections of Shrewsbury together and lists them instead as if they were other Shropshire towns. Thus, you have Shrewsbury, St. Chad, St. Julian, St. Mary, St. Alkmond, etc. Any ideas on which might include Cherry Orchard? Than you, Alejandro Milberg Boston, Mass. ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== The 'SUBJECT' line is the first thing others will see - use it wisely. PLEASE do not just click on 'reply' - Change the subject line to describe more accurately the subject of *your* message. This is particularly important when replying to a 'Digest' ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.0/305 - Release Date: 08/04/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.0/305 - Release Date: 08/04/2006 ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com