Hi Maria I see your predicament. On the Free BMD there are 47 John Richards marrying a Mary between March 1855 and Dec 1857. None of them, as I recall, within Shropshire. Nothing much on the British Vital Records either, and of course the IGI shows a vast array of couples who probably don't fit. Some couples who might fit are those married in Herefordshire, Worcestershire, etc. close by. But then, no point ignoring the fact that if John was intending to come to Australia he might have gone up to Liverpool to ship off as was the intention of many Shropshire folk and met his Mary there, or even down to London and married there! Again, there are some in the Free BMD and the IGI who might fit at or around 1856 in both areas. I am also wondering if on the Australian death certificate the 14 years of marriage might have been misinterpreted or miswritten? Considering the age of John, born 1812, could it be that the marriage length might have been 24 years and not 14? Though I expect you could work that out to your satisfaction by checking on the children's ages at the time of Mary's death. Anyway, just a thought. Cheers Graham Melbourne.

Hello Louise Leebotwood registers have been printed and indexed up to 1812. If you can't find a copy in a good library near you then you can purchase a copy on microfiche from Shropshire FHS. Later than 1812 you probably need to view them at your local Mormon Family History Library. Mike ______________________________________________________ Louise Reynolds wrote: > Hello all, > > Big ask, but does anyone have register transcripts for Leebotwood please and would be prepared to run some names? > > Louise Reynolds > Melbourne, Aus > > SFHS Member 6083 > > > > ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== > List archives can found at ~ > Searchable ~ http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS > Threaded ~ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > >

Graham Price wrote: > > According to the Clwyd list the 1841 census is NOW online through > Ancestry.com. > I do not have personal knowledge of such, but a few listers state they > have been there and looked at it and have worked through it. Check it > out. Yes Graham it's there (at last!!!!) Ian

Hi My name is Maria and I was wondering if there is a marriage index for Shropshire about 1856 I have just found my John Richards' first wife dying in Victoria in 1870 and it says they were married 14 yrs all I have is a first name Mary John Richards was the son of Richard Richards and Ann Groom he was born 1812 in Clive. I have no idea when or where he came to Australia On his death Certificate it just says place of birth England parents names and not much else. Nothing about his first wife not even a name Any help would be appreciated Maria from colyton NSW --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0616-3, 20/04/2006 Tested on: 21/04/2006 10:36:08 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

Hello Maria There is no need for a Shropshire Marriage Index for any marriage after 1837 because they will all be included in the Civil Registration Indexes. These can be viewed on several pay-per-view web sites or you might be able to look at them at your local library. Alternatively your local library may have microfiche copies of these indexes. The main problem is going to be isolating your John RICHARDS and Mary amongst all the others. You need to establish as close as possible the date that they might have got married and it would help if you had some indication of where. Best of luck. Mike ______________________________________________________ maria skwierawski wrote: > Hi > My name is Maria and I was wondering if there is a marriage index for Shropshire > about 1856 > I have just found my John Richards' first wife dying in Victoria in 1870 > and it says they were married 14 yrs all I have is a first name Mary > John Richards was the son of Richard Richards and Ann Groom he was born 1812 in Clive. I have no idea when or where he came to Australia > On his death Certificate it just says place of birth England parents names and not much else. Nothing about his first wife not even a name > Any help would be appreciated > Maria from colyton NSW > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 0616-3, 20/04/2006 > Tested on: 21/04/2006 10:36:08 AM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > > ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== > TO post a message to the list for *every* subscriber to read, please *always* use - > ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > >

Would anyone with access to thee 1841 census be able to look up the household containing a John KILKENNY (b Ireland, c 1830 - so he would be about 10 years old). He was married in Shrewsbury in 1849 but I'm not sure at what point his family came over from Ireland. If it is the same John I am looking for he later moved to Yorkshire, then Durham with his wife Ellen. Any help greatly appreciated. Best wishes Tim Brooke Manningtree, Essex The information and attachments (if any) in this email are confidential, may be legally privileged and are intended solely for the addressee(s). Access, copying or re-use of information within it by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient you should not disclose, copy or use any part of it. Please notify the sender and delete all copies immediately. Faber Music Limited is not responsible for the completeness or accuracy of this communication as it has been transmitted over a public network. It is the recipient's responsibility to scan this email and any attachments for viruses. If in doubt please verify the authenticity of the sender. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Faber Music Limited or any of its holding or fellow subsidiary companies. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

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on 4/20/06 2:03 PM, Donal O'Kelly at ocollaugh@comcast.net wrote: > Donno about that. Could have been Oliver Cromwell.<G> > Donal > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Millman" <repmill@bigpond.net.au> > To: <ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 5:20 AM > Subject: RE: [ENG-SHROP] Major Brick Wall > > >> Obviously under command of Stonewall Jackson >> >> Bob >> Strathpine >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ian Edwards [mailto:tafwys@yahoo.co.uk] >> Sent: Thursday, 20 April 2006 9:50 PM >> To: ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] Major Brick Wall >> >> Who was Major Brick Wall and in which regiment did he serve? Hello List, Thank you all so much for the good Laugh, I really needed that as I was feeling sorry for myself after some not too welcome news from my doctor. Now I feel better to cope with the treatment. Keep digging, we will finally knock all those Brick Walls down. Regards Sheila Conway Ontario, Canada.

Abbotale30@aol.com wrote: > > My sides are bursting...... > I have hit a brick wall in my search, it is major, but he is not a major. Hi Janice, I was only joking :-) . I just kept seeing the header "Major Brick Wall" and couldn't resist it! Good luck with your searching! Ian

Who was Major Brick Wall and in which regiment did he serve? Ian

Donno about that. Could have been Oliver Cromwell.<G> Donal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Millman" <repmill@bigpond.net.au> To: <ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 5:20 AM Subject: RE: [ENG-SHROP] Major Brick Wall > Obviously under command of Stonewall Jackson > > Bob > Strathpine > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Edwards [mailto:tafwys@yahoo.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, 20 April 2006 9:50 PM > To: ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] Major Brick Wall > > Who was Major Brick Wall and in which regiment did he serve? > > Ian > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4/318 - Release Date: 18/04/2006 > > > > ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== > TIPS on list etiquette and how to maximise your chances of receiving help > can be found at ~ > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donaghmore1/expectations.htm > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4/319 - Release Date: 4/19/2006 > >

I am trying to find out what happened to my Great Auntie JESSIE TUCKWOOD (nee James). She was born in Kingswood,Herefordshire in 1876 and married FREDERICK JOSEPH TUCKWOOD b. 1878 in Birmingham. They were married in Ludlow in 1907, but can’t find out any info about their lives after this. Grateful for any help received Paul -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/313 - Release Date: 15/04/2006

Sorry guys me sides are bursting........ Thanks to Ian and Bob for the frivolity. Take care Janice Researching: HAMPSON, STYCHE, GLADWIN, ABBOTT, ESBERGER, HOLLINGWORTH, HEMMINGWAY, CRESSWELL, KING, MATHER, ECKERSLEY, GOODALL, ROBINSON, ARAM, GEE, GRAFTON

Hi Ian My sides are bursting...... I have hit a brick wall in my search, it is major, but he is not a major. Sorry! Kind regards Janice Researching: HAMPSON, STYCHE, GLADWIN, ABBOTT, ESBERGER, HOLLINGWORTH, HEMMINGWAY, CRESSWELL, KING, MATHER, ECKERSLEY, GOODALL, ROBINSON, ARAM, GEE, GRAFTON

Looking for a connection with the names Samuel Roberts b 1823 Maesbrook and his wife Hannah Roberts( formally Jones ) Hannah was born 1824 Treflach her father was John Jones and Samuels fathers name was also John he came from Kinnerly Samuel and Hannah children's names where John. Thomas. Emma. Pryce Rebecca .Sarah Edward Emma was my GGrandmother Veneita from Oswestry

At 05:04 AM 18/04/2006, Janet Poulton wrote: >Would anyone know which Upton is referred to as Upton Bank?It is given as >place of birth for my ancestor Richard Meredith in 1861census.Thank you >Jan Poulton Hi Janet As long as you are sure it is within Shropshire, it may well be Hopton Bank as Mike suggests. There is of course, Upton in Chester, Cheshire, and there is an Upton Cressett near Bridgnorth (Shropshire), about four miles to the west. Perhaps there is an Upton Bank on the outskirts of that village. If I was looking for parish registers of this village I would be searching within Oldbury, Chetton, Ditton Priors, Monkhopton, Morville, Oldbury which are extremely close churches to Upton Cressett or Bridgnorth itself (the main centre). Good luck Graham

Hi Janice, It all depends on where he was 10 or 20 years on from 1841 census doesn't it. You say you have him on later census, where was he living then, does it give you a clue as to where he may be in earlier years? When my mothers parents both died leaving 7 children (in Bolton, Lancs), they were all split up between Aunts & Uncles in Manchester. But after the funeral they decided to go back home and stay together, and the eldest two girls (about 19 & 20) brought the rest up, youngest only 3 at the time. One was working and the other stayed at home and played Mum, taking in washing and minding others children to make ends meet. Then they both married and brought their own families up. So what I am saying, it all depends on your family as to what happened to them all when their parents died, and if they may have been split up between relatives just the same. In which case they could have been miles away, anywhere in the country. Do you know of their relatives at that time and where they may have been living, it might be worth trying to find them, and see if they have your orphans, if you have no luck with the Wem 1851 census pages. Good luck, Anouska ----- Original Message ----- From: <Abbotale30@aol.com> To: <anouska.reynolds@ntlworld.com> Cc: <ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 2:30 PM Subject: Re: Major Brick Wall > Hi Anouska > > > Its certainly worth a try, If memory serves me right I have looked at all > the pages for 2b, but not thoroughly through 2a. > I wont give up trying....will check again....keep plodding on....inbetween > chores.. > Thanks for that advise > Kind regards > janice > Researching: > HAMPSON, STYCHE, GLADWIN, ABBOTT, ESBERGER, HOLLINGWORTH, HEMMINGWAY, > CRESSWELL, KING, MATHER, ECKERSLEY, GOODALL, ROBINSON, ARAM, GEE, GRAFTON >

Hi, Have you tried going the long way on Ancestry? By clicking on country, then town, then district or parish area for the area you think he may be. eg. Shropshire, wem - brings up two districts 2a & 2b. 2a has 51 pages and 2b has 42 pages. You can go through each page checking for him. I have found a record this way when it has not been included in the indexes. A long trek but might be worth doing. Of course it is known that some pages have actually been missed altogether on Ancestry. Anouska ----- Original Message ----- From: <Abbotale30@aol.com> To: <ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 8:58 AM Subject: [ENG-SHROP] Major Brick Wall > Hi list > > Any Ideas > > Henry HAMPSON/HAMSON b 1841... > I have found him in 1841 with parents William and Jane living High Street > Wem. > William and Jane Henry's parents died before the 1851 census. So all > their > children where left alone. > maybe fostered out? > > I have found Henry HAMPSON in 1871/81/1901 census and he died in > Derbyshire > in 1917. > > I cannot find him on the Ancestry.com in 1851/61 census. > I have been at this brick wall for 4 years..... > Kind regards > Janice > Researching: > HAMPSON, STYCHE, GLADWIN, ABBOTT, ESBERGER, HOLLINGWORTH, HEMMINGWAY, > CRESSWELL, KING, MATHER, ECKERSLEY, GOODALL, ROBINSON, ARAM, GEE, GRAFTON > > > ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== > The 'SUBJECT' line is the first thing others will see - use it wisely. > PLEASE do not just click on 'reply' - Change the subject line to describe > more accurately the subject of *your* message. > This is particularly important when replying to a 'Digest' > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Sorry Graham reply was suppose to go to the list!!! doh! Jan - Not a Shropshire reference but found this: Down the Avon valley towards Bradford via Avoncliffe and on to Westbury. This is the centre for the Mendip stone trains, where you will literally see mountains on the move! We visit the famous White Horse for some spectacular views of the west country mainline and the cement works! Heading south, the line is a favourite for steam train operators over the famous Upton Bank and then down the Wylye valley. http://www.transportdiversions.com/publicationshow.asp?pubid=5411 Or what about Upton Magna has that ever changed its name? Ian. > > From: Graham Price <genetree@pacific.net.au> > Date: 2006/04/19 Wed AM 07:05:43 BST > To: ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] Upton Bank > > At 05:04 AM 18/04/2006, Janet Poulton wrote: > >Would anyone know which Upton is referred to as Upton Bank?It is given as > >place of birth for my ancestor Richard Meredith in 1861census.Thank you > >Jan Poulton > > Hi Janet > As long as you are sure it is within Shropshire, it may well be Hopton Bank > as Mike suggests. There is of course, Upton in Chester, Cheshire, and there > is an Upton Cressett near Bridgnorth (Shropshire), about four miles to the > west. Perhaps there is an Upton Bank on the outskirts of that village. If I > was looking for parish registers of this village I would be searching > within Oldbury, Chetton, Ditton Priors, Monkhopton, Morville, Oldbury which > are extremely close churches to Upton Cressett or Bridgnorth itself (the > main centre). > > Good luck > Graham > > > ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== > List archives can found at ~ > Searchable ~ http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS > Threaded ~ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information