I am researching the WILLIAMS family from PREES who eventually moved to KYNNERSLEY and from there to FORTON. Thomas Williams born approx 1787 in Prees, parents possibly Richard and Mary (nee Furnival). Thomas married Sarah Astley in 1814 at Prees and by 1817 they were living at Kynnersley. They had 8 children. Their son Richard born 1819 in Kynnersley married Sarah Weston in 1839 at Kynnersley and had 5 known children, some born in Hadley including William Williams, my Great Grandfather. He was born 1846 and married Hannah Bailey in 1872 at Wellington. If anyone is researching any part of this family I would love to hear from you. Regards Kath Parton All outgoing mail is scanned by NAV

Modern pics, many countryside & older buildings, though one of a modern retail park. Probably needs broadband. Last time I looked Shropshire was poorly represented but now have plenty pages, tempted to see about downloading some of my own digital photos. http://www.geograph.org.uk/ go into Search Images, type Shropshire Jo, who is unlikely to ever have own site.

My gg.Grandmother Catherine Bostock was baptised 1806 at Baschurch, Shropshire. She married John Williamson b.1806 Wrenbury in 1830 in Baddiley, Nantwich, Cheshire. These details are on IGI. I have not had any research in Shropshire before, which is all new to me as I have mainly been working on finding my Williamson family in Nantwich area, plus others in different areas. So have no knowledge of the Shropshire area at all. Catherines baptism was the only Bostock recorded on that particular film on IGI, and although I have found lots of Bostocks on IGI they have all been in Nantwich area. I even found Joseph & Elizabeth Bostock as possible parents for Catherine (in 1841 ages 80 & 75 born in Cheshire). In tracing their children on IGI they were all born in Nantwich, although there was a gap in 1806 which could have been for Catherine. Why would they have just had Catherine baptised in Baschurch, Shrops. in 1806, when they had always lived and had their other childrn in Nantwich, Ches.? I find it all very puzzling. I have no way of travelling to that area to do any research, and rely on online records. I would welcome any help or ideas, which will be very much appreciated. Thanks, Anouska

Hi Rose and Mike Being born and bred in Broseley I can confirm that Benthall is pronounced "Bentle" by locals. You can find a (very) brief history and some photos, including the church, at http://www.broseley.org.uk Regards John

John, As you know the area very well, do you think there could ever have been the call for a Musician in the area circa 1800? My PHILLIPS family have been professional Musicians since my GEORGE PHILLIPS was born in Benthall about 1801 and subsequent generations have all been professional Musicians. Rose Epsom Downs/UK

Hi John, Thank you very much for that information. I shall certainly take a look. Rose Epsom Downs/UK

Hi Jo, Who said; > > Quite a while back, a lister gave me the site address for Procat, so I could > search for piece numbers etc. on census records.... I think that was I. Use this link now. http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/default.asp Hope it helps, Gwynne Chadwick RAF Bridgnorth web site. http://rafbridgnorth.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk

Hi Jo, It comes tucked away on The National Archives Website, http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ Select, Search the Archives, then 4th in the dropdown list is, 'The Catalogue' which is the old ProCat. open it up and select Search, From there on you should recognise it. Ken Manchester > Quite a while back, a lister gave me the site address for Procat, so I > could search for piece numbers etc. on census records, and get > geographaical location, and vice versa, i.e. geographical location then > HO no. or whatever, and piece numbers. > I bookmarked it and used it very successfully (for me that is). > It now does not exist, and perusal of the National Archives had not led me > to the relevant connection.

Quite a while back, a lister gave me the site address for Procat, so I could search for piece numbers etc. on census records, and get geographaical location, and vice versa, i.e. geographical location then HO no. or whatever, and piece numbers. I bookmarked it and used it very successfully (for me that is). It now does not exist, and perusal of the National Archives had not led me to the relevant connection. Lookig forward to being put right, Jo. Shropshire.

Hello Rose I think the third letter is 'n' not 'r' which makes it Bentle which I am guessing is phonetic spelling for Benthall. Next problem, there are two completely unrelated places with that name in Shropshire, one is just over 2 miles east of Alberbury and the other is 1 mile west of Broseley. The former is little more than a farm name so I would suggest the latter is your best bet. Benthall was a Chapelry of Much Wenlock ancient parish, becoming a separate ecclesiastical parish in 1735. There is an indexed transcript of the registers 1558-1812 at Shropshire Archives with later registers being on microfiche. See http://www.shropshire.gov.uk/archives.nsf/viewAttachments/DOC-F7C03C828CC9630380256FA5003FC583/$file/Parish%20Registers.pdf Mike ______________________________________________________ Maytree4@aol.com wrote: > No, sorry I made a typo - it should have been 1851 census. The > reference is HO 107/2185 Pg. 561. > > Rose Epsom Downs/UK > > > ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== WHY not visit the > Shropshire Genuki site. It really is a mine of information. > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SAL/ > > ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over > 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online > collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

Hello Rose I don't understand how you have found a place of birth on the 1841 census when the only information it normally gives is Y or N to indicate whether the person was born in the county they were living in. Is it one of the other censuses that you have found them in? In either case please provide the page reference for the census so that others can look at it. For 1851 it should be something like HO.107/???? folio ?? (that's the number stamped in the top right hand corner) page ?? (the number actually printed on the page) Mike ______________________________________________________ Maytree4@aol.com wrote: > Hi, > > I have just found out that my PHILLIPS family came from Shropshire and I am > looking for a place that I cannot quite read on the 1841 Census return. It > reads something like ... Shropshire, BER-TLE. I have been unable to find such > a place on modern day maps of Shrops. Does anyone have any ideas as to > where this might be? My PHILLIPS family were Musicians the progenator of our > family being GEORGE PHILLIPS b. about 1801 in Ber-tle? who settled in Liverpool > and his son, another GEORGE PHILLIPS (b.1845) settled in Soho, London. > > Any suggestions gladly received. > > Rose > Epsom Downs/UK > > > ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== > The 'SUBJECT' line is the first thing others will see - use it wisely. PLEASE do not just click on 'reply' - Change the subject line to describe more accurately the subject of *your* message. > This is particularly important when replying to a 'Digest' > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > >

Does anyone with access to 1861 and 1851 censusses have details of a Mary Ann HOLLERTON (b c 1843 in Bridgnorth) and her family? She later (in 1879) married Alexander Charles BLADEN/BLADIN of Kidderminster, though by then they were living in West Yorkshire. Their daughter Harriet was my great grandmother. Any help appreciated. Many thanks Tim Brooke Essex, UK The information and attachments (if any) in this email are confidential, may be legally privileged and are intended solely for the addressee(s). Access, copying or re-use of information within it by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient you should not disclose, copy or use any part of it. Please notify the sender and delete all copies immediately. Faber Music Limited is not responsible for the completeness or accuracy of this communication as it has been transmitted over a public network. It is the recipient's responsibility to scan this email and any attachments for viruses. If in doubt please verify the authenticity of the sender. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Faber Music Limited or any of its holding or fellow subsidiary companies. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

No, sorry I made a typo - it should have been 1851 census. The reference is HO 107/2185 Pg. 561. Rose Epsom Downs/UK

Hello All I have just joined this list and wonder if anyone has any connection or knows anything about Richard CROFT b about 1820 in Aston Shropshire. he appears on the 1841 census as an apprentice wheeelwright in Montford parish and next turns up outside the county in 1849 marrying Hannah Aldritt in West Bromwich, According to his wedding cert his Father was also Richard. Any help appreciated Cheers Martin

At 03:10 PM 25/04/2006, Graham Price wrote: >>But it says >>the corn crop failed. Did England have corn before 1492? > >Hi Renee >Maesbury Mill near Oswestry was in operation for corn flour production >prior to the 1400s and appears to have been in existence from about 1086 >or earlier. > >Cheers >Graham

Hi, I have just found out that my PHILLIPS family came from Shropshire and I am looking for a place that I cannot quite read on the 1841 Census return. It reads something like ... Shropshire, BER-TLE. I have been unable to find such a place on modern day maps of Shrops. Does anyone have any ideas as to where this might be? My PHILLIPS family were Musicians the progenator of our family being GEORGE PHILLIPS b. about 1801 in Ber-tle? who settled in Liverpool and his son, another GEORGE PHILLIPS (b.1845) settled in Soho, London. Any suggestions gladly received. Rose Epsom Downs/UK

That's right. It's was a general term for grain. The Corn Laws for example were mostly about the price of wheat although other grains did play a part. An analogy would be the word 'meat' which used to mean food in general. These days I would say we use the word in both senses but I wonder how many kids know what their cornflakes are made of? Judy On 25 Apr 2006, at 02:34, Bob Millman wrote: > Renee > > Check this site it explains it: > > http://maize.agron.iastate.edu/name.html > > Bob > Strathpine Qld > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.5/322 - Release Date: > 22/04/2006 > > > > ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== > The 'SUBJECT' line is the first thing others will see - use it > wisely. PLEASE do not just click on 'reply' - Change the subject > line to describe more accurately the subject of *your* message. > This is particularly important when replying to a 'Digest' > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and > the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Hi all I am sure there will be many who will appreciate that the banner of H.M.A.S. Shropshire is still proudly carried in the Anzac march today in Melbourne, Vic. Shropshire, a heavy cruiser, was previously HMS Shropshire and spent several years after the outbreak of WWII in the South Atlantic. In 1942, after a re-fit she was handed over to the Australian Navy previously having played a leading part in the collapse of the Italian Empire - she continued up to 1945 in helping to bring down the Japanese imperial forces. Indeed, a chequered history. Further info can be obtained by going to http://www.navy.gov.au/spc/history/ships/shropshire.html Regards Graham Melbourne Oz

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It's still on the web-site 25th Eastern Standard Time, unfortunately only available for viewers in the UK. That's a bit sad. Oh well! Another ANZAC day dawns. Lest we forget. Regards Graham At 08:00 AM 25/04/2006, Michael J Hulme wrote: >Hello Everyone > >The BBC are broadcasting a series of three one hour programmes showing >colour movie footage which was filmed in the 1920's by Claude >Friese-Greene. The first program, which starts at Lands End in the south >west of England, was on Tuesday 18 April and can still be seen by >following this link:- > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo/programmes/?id=friese_greene > >Unfortunately the first programme will be removed from the web site during >Tuesday 25 April, presumably to be replaced by the second programme. The >second programme due to be screened in the UK on Tuesday 25 April will >almost certainly travel through part of Shropshire. Any of you who want >to see what the land of your UK ancestors looked like in the 1920's will >really enjoy this. > >Sorry this message is so late in the day, I have only just watched the >first programme myself. > >Mike >Shropshire, UK > > > >==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== >The 'SUBJECT' line is the first thing others will see - use it wisely. >PLEASE do not just click on 'reply' - Change the subject line to describe >more accurately the subject of *your* message. >This is particularly important when replying to a 'Digest' > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx