JOHN PAGE married ELIZABETH HOPTON nov 21 1596.could sks do a lookup to see if they had any children. regards Karen Harrison doing a 1 name study of PAGE;s in shropshire.

Hi List. I am new to your site so hope you can help me My son in law is called Mark Kynaston he wants me to help him look for his Granfarther. He is Called Thomas Kynaston was born about 1920 was born in ( Wem ) Shropshire. Hope you can help me with this thanks DOT

Hello, I did find Richard and John Sands living in the US. In 1911 when immigrating, John states he had been in the US from 1908-1911. Did he go home because his father was sick? They do list their nearest relative as Mr. Sands, 16 NewBridge Rd, Ironbridge Salop. John was b. August 7, 1892 Hadnet, Shropshire and Richard August 3, 1887, Market Drayton? Cheryl

Hi List I wonder if someone can come up with a bright idea for me! Richard SANDS was born in Prees in 1854 and married Sarah Ann MAYER Q2 1886 - she came from Silverdale, STS. He appears with his family in subsequent censuses, in 1901 being at Fauls, Prees RG13/2554/54/2 where he is a Carter (general), own account. Richard and Sarah had four sons and three daughters, one of whom died as a baby. The two elder sons John Thomas and Richard emigrated to the USA before WW1. The third, Harry, served in the 4th Rifle Brigade. The youngest, Allen, was a boy in the Royal Navy at the outbreak; he was at the Battle of the Falklands in December 1914. In October 1916 he "ran" in Montreal, and four weeks later enlisted in the Canadian army under a false name. He became a gunner in the Canadian Field Artillery and was killed at the Second Battle of Passchendaele in October 1917 aged 19. The CWGC describes him as "Son of Sarah Ann Sands, of 55 Church Hill, Ironbridge, Salop, England". The Voters List shows that Harry lived there with his mother after the war until her death in 1928; he moved when he married in 1929 and his sister Gertrude lived there until 1933, so I know that I have the right family. My problem is that I cannot find a death registered for Richard (senior). I have searched on line, and have also waded through the GRO index on microfiche. It would appear likely that he died before 1917 although there could be some other reason for him not being named as next of kin on the CWGC Debt of Honour Register. I have no idea why Sarah moved to Ironbridge as there seems to be no prior connection with that part of the county. The possibilities would appear to be Death not registered Death registered but not indexed Death occurred outside UK He would have been too old for military service. Did he also emigrate to the USA with JT and Richard junior and leave his wife and other children behind? I very much doubt this because I have had contact John Thomas' grandson and he would surely have mentioned that. Any suggestions gratefully received! TIA John (in Herefordshire where the sun is finally trying to beak through).

Hello Looks like the IGI been updated since you last searched. C017442 for Much Wenlock gives a christening for Thomas Roper, mother Issabella (so spelt), no mention of the dad. 1822. Jo. Tropical Shropshire

Hello all I have returned to the list after quiet sometime. I am still after the same names with not much difference from when I left. :o( I am looking for a christening entry for either, Caroline Roper b: 1821 Much Wenlock or her brother Thomas ROPER b: 1822 Much Wenlock. I am looking specifically for any reference of their father. Isabella ROPER (widow) their mother married into my SKETT/SKITT line 16 September 1823, Much Wenlock. I found out yesterday that Isabella is listed on the 1851 cens as being from Scotland, I am hoping that her first husband was from Shropshire. Any nudge in the right direction would be appreciated, Brynda Brynda Ashton-Jones London, Ontario Canada

I am back from my holiday to continue research into the following:- Bisgrove -Ireland, London, Somerset Foxall- Belguim, -Hampshire Costar, Costard -Oxfordshire, Hampshire Mitchell - Northumberland Slade- Berkshire, Hampshire Alan J Foxall

Hi Thanks for the valuable information re my birth cert query and the fact that it was in the next qtr-hopefully. To this end I have sent for the certificate already and will let you all know when it comes if it is what I expected. Regards Barry

Fair point. I had thought of that but wondered if it was too big a gap to be possible. I guess that it is the only solution. Rosie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Craven" <pamcraven@mynow.co.uk> To: "'Rosie'" <rosemaryryden@hotmail.com>; <ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 1:13 PM Subject: RE: [ENG-SHROP] {Eng Shrop] birth cert > Hi Barry > > Why don't you apply for the full birth certificate which will give you the > info you need? > > Pam > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rosie [mailto:rosemaryryden@hotmail.com] > Sent: 02 July 2006 10:07 > To: ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] {Eng Shrop] birth cert > > This is an interesting subject for me. 2x great grandmother, Ellen Edge > was > born c 1839 somewhere in the Macclesfield area of Cheshire but the only > Ellen Edge on Cheshire BMD is registered in 1842. Could these be one and > the > > same at such an early period of registration? > > Rosie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Yvonne Cairns" <yvonne@anycairns.co.uk> > To: <ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 10:41 PM > Subject: RE: [ENG-SHROP] {Eng Shrop] birth cert > > >> Hi Barry, >> The short answer is Yes. >> You have 6 weeks to register a birth & if the parents waited until >> January >> it would appear in the Mar Qtr of the following year. >> Regards >> Yvonne >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BARRY DEAKIN [mailto:barrydeakin@blueyonder.co.uk] >> Sent: 01 July 2006 15:13 >> To: ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [ENG-SHROP] {Eng Shrop] birth cert >> >> Hi >> >> I have been given a date of birth of an Alfred Henry Richardson on >> 17/12/1904 in Brighton from a short form certificate. >> >> I am trying to determine his parents from the 1901 census. >> >> I have a marriage cert so I have the father but there are 2 possibilities >> in >> Brighton. >> >> I have looked on the 1837-1983 births but cannot find one in the Dec qtr >> of >> 1904. >> >> I can however find an Alfred Henry Richardson in the jan-feb-mar qrt for >> 1905 in Brighton. >> >> If the birth was registered late and not until Jan would it have appeared >> in >> the 1905 Qrt? >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Barry >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== >> TO post a message to the list for *every* subscriber to read, please >> *always* use - >> ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors >> at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: >> > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta >> rgetid=5429 >> >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== >> Please do not just click on 'reply' - Change the subject line to describe >> more accurately the subject of *your* message. >> This is particularly important when replying to a 'Digest' >> >> ============================== >> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> >> > > > ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== > TIPS on list etiquette and how to maximise your chances of receiving help > can be found at ~ > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donaghmore1/expectations.htm > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Hi Barry Why don't you apply for the full birth certificate which will give you the info you need? Pam -----Original Message----- From: Rosie [mailto:rosemaryryden@hotmail.com] Sent: 02 July 2006 10:07 To: ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] {Eng Shrop] birth cert This is an interesting subject for me. 2x great grandmother, Ellen Edge was born c 1839 somewhere in the Macclesfield area of Cheshire but the only Ellen Edge on Cheshire BMD is registered in 1842. Could these be one and the same at such an early period of registration? Rosie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yvonne Cairns" <yvonne@anycairns.co.uk> To: <ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 10:41 PM Subject: RE: [ENG-SHROP] {Eng Shrop] birth cert > Hi Barry, > The short answer is Yes. > You have 6 weeks to register a birth & if the parents waited until January > it would appear in the Mar Qtr of the following year. > Regards > Yvonne > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BARRY DEAKIN [mailto:barrydeakin@blueyonder.co.uk] > Sent: 01 July 2006 15:13 > To: ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-SHROP] {Eng Shrop] birth cert > > Hi > > I have been given a date of birth of an Alfred Henry Richardson on > 17/12/1904 in Brighton from a short form certificate. > > I am trying to determine his parents from the 1901 census. > > I have a marriage cert so I have the father but there are 2 possibilities > in > Brighton. > > I have looked on the 1837-1983 births but cannot find one in the Dec qtr > of > 1904. > > I can however find an Alfred Henry Richardson in the jan-feb-mar qrt for > 1905 in Brighton. > > If the birth was registered late and not until Jan would it have appeared > in > the 1905 Qrt? > > > > Regards > > Barry > > > > > > ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== > TO post a message to the list for *every* subscriber to read, please > *always* use - > ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta > rgetid=5429 > > > > > ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== > Please do not just click on 'reply' - Change the subject line to describe > more accurately the subject of *your* message. > This is particularly important when replying to a 'Digest' > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== TIPS on list etiquette and how to maximise your chances of receiving help can be found at ~ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donaghmore1/expectations.htm ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

This is an interesting subject for me. 2x great grandmother, Ellen Edge was born c 1839 somewhere in the Macclesfield area of Cheshire but the only Ellen Edge on Cheshire BMD is registered in 1842. Could these be one and the same at such an early period of registration? Rosie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yvonne Cairns" <yvonne@anycairns.co.uk> To: <ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 10:41 PM Subject: RE: [ENG-SHROP] {Eng Shrop] birth cert > Hi Barry, > The short answer is Yes. > You have 6 weeks to register a birth & if the parents waited until January > it would appear in the Mar Qtr of the following year. > Regards > Yvonne > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BARRY DEAKIN [mailto:barrydeakin@blueyonder.co.uk] > Sent: 01 July 2006 15:13 > To: ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-SHROP] {Eng Shrop] birth cert > > Hi > > I have been given a date of birth of an Alfred Henry Richardson on > 17/12/1904 in Brighton from a short form certificate. > > I am trying to determine his parents from the 1901 census. > > I have a marriage cert so I have the father but there are 2 possibilities > in > Brighton. > > I have looked on the 1837-1983 births but cannot find one in the Dec qtr > of > 1904. > > I can however find an Alfred Henry Richardson in the jan-feb-mar qrt for > 1905 in Brighton. > > If the birth was registered late and not until Jan would it have appeared > in > the 1905 Qrt? > > > > Regards > > Barry > > > > > > ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== > TO post a message to the list for *every* subscriber to read, please > *always* use - > ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta > rgetid=5429 > > > > > ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== > Please do not just click on 'reply' - Change the subject line to describe > more accurately the subject of *your* message. > This is particularly important when replying to a 'Digest' > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Hi Barry, The short answer is Yes. You have 6 weeks to register a birth & if the parents waited until January it would appear in the Mar Qtr of the following year. Regards Yvonne -----Original Message----- From: BARRY DEAKIN [mailto:barrydeakin@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 01 July 2006 15:13 To: ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-SHROP] {Eng Shrop] birth cert Hi I have been given a date of birth of an Alfred Henry Richardson on 17/12/1904 in Brighton from a short form certificate. I am trying to determine his parents from the 1901 census. I have a marriage cert so I have the father but there are 2 possibilities in Brighton. I have looked on the 1837-1983 births but cannot find one in the Dec qtr of 1904. I can however find an Alfred Henry Richardson in the jan-feb-mar qrt for 1905 in Brighton. If the birth was registered late and not until Jan would it have appeared in the 1905 Qrt? Regards Barry ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== TO post a message to the list for *every* subscriber to read, please *always* use - ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

Hi I forgot to say for the benefit of new listers you can see the list at www.dfnoble.com/CULnames Well worth a visit with many answers waiting to be given to get those brick walls down. Regards Gerald List co-ordinator

Hi Everyone The above list has now been updated and the number of names now exceeds 6000. May I make my usual request and ask everyone to check their entries are correct including the Email and Web Addresses. Please make use of this facility and also please post any Cumbrian brick walls which you have. In the case of anyone in doubt please send info to me and also post to your Cumberland Rootsweb list of which there are 3 main ones. If you find an Email address that seems to be obsolete or incorrect please also tell me. Thanks Gerald

Hi I have been given a date of birth of an Alfred Henry Richardson on 17/12/1904 in Brighton from a short form certificate. I am trying to determine his parents from the 1901 census. I have a marriage cert so I have the father but there are 2 possibilities in Brighton. I have looked on the 1837-1983 births but cannot find one in the Dec qtr of 1904. I can however find an Alfred Henry Richardson in the jan-feb-mar qrt for 1905 in Brighton. If the birth was registered late and not until Jan would it have appeared in the 1905 Qrt? Regards Barry

Hi there, Can anyone help with this puzzle ? William J Beddoe was born in Highley about 1882. William married Mary Elizabeth Bason of Alveley in 1912 (registered Cleobury Mortimer) By the time of the 1901 census William was working as a Hewer at the Colliery. I am interested to find out where they lived and if they had any children ? Does anyone have access to the Highley Parish Church Registers and could possibly look up baptisms ? Another part of the puzzle is there is a death of a William J Beddoe aged 51 registered at Kidderminster in 1933. ( a perfect match !) So could some kind soul possibley have a look at Highley burial register or have a wander around the churchyard for any clues ? Any help or advice would be much appreciated Kindest Regards Margaret

I have a feeling that recently someone posted the name MULLINER at Worfield. Unfortunately I was unable to reply at that time and apparently I have accidentally deleted the message. My Great Grandmother was CATHERINE MULLINER aka KITTY born in 1833. If the person posting the message is still on this list I would be glad to hear from them. Margaret Felthouse, Western Australia.

M. Elliot-Jones wrote: > > Could SKS lookup the Staff of this workhouse in the 1851. I have a > note indicating that staff included a Mr. & Mrs. ROWLEY. My ggF Andrew > ROWLEY is the Workhouse Master in 1882 at the age of 62, but I have > him in 1851 as a teacher at the Chetwyn School. So, I'd like to have > details on the ROWLEYs at Wem Workhouse in 1851. > Hi Mike, I Mike, I don't think they are the ones you are looking for. If 1851 (HO107/1995/31/1) the entries for the Wem Union Workshouse are difficult to make out but they are definitely _not_ Rowley. Ancestry has them transcribed as "William Nail Kendell, born about 1793 in County Westmeath, Ireland" (That is genuinely County Westmeath and not the usual mix up between Westmeath and Wem :-) ) and his wife "Mary Rendlinn, born about 1795 in Caernarvonshire, Wales" Ian

Looking for a connection on a Anne Vaughan and a John Jones They had a daughter Hannah born 1824 in Treflach

Hello List, Could SKS lookup the Staff of this workhouse in the 1851. I have a note indicating that staff included a Mr. & Mrs. ROWLEY. My ggF Andrew ROWLEY is the Workhouse Master in 1882 at the age of 62, but I have him in 1851 as a teacher at the Chetwyn School. So, I'd like to have details on the ROWLEYs at Wem Workhouse in 1851. TIA Mike M. Elliot-Jones