Hello Martin Oakengates was formed into an ecclesiastical parish in 1855 from the parishes of Shifnal and Wombridge so you will need to check both of those parishes for the baptism of Francis ADAMS c.1807. There are transcripts of both of the above parishes at Shrewsbury up to 1812 which suggests they should appear on the LDS (Mormon) Family Search web site at www.familysearch.org but the only entry I could see on a quick search was in 1803 at Broseley so you will need to do some more work on this, probably at Shrewsbury. Mike ______________________________________________________ Martin Adams wrote: > Hello all, > I have just discovered my GGG Grandfather Francis ADAMS was born in Oakengates (c1807). > Could anyone advise me where and indeed if I can search the records for a birth. I live in Suffolk so difficult to visit personally. > Any help gratefully received. > Regards > Martin > > > ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== > TO post a message to the list for *every* subscriber to read, please *always* use - > ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > >

Hi Just to let you know that I have received the birth certificate that I was after of a birth in Dec 1904 which was registered in 1905. The details shown are as I expected. Thanks again. Regards Barry

Hello all, I have just discovered my GGG Grandfather Francis ADAMS was born in Oakengates (c1807). Could anyone advise me where and indeed if I can search the records for a birth. I live in Suffolk so difficult to visit personally. Any help gratefully received. Regards Martin

There is a bit of info at, http://www.broseley.org.uk/Docs/the%20new%20willey%20ironworks.htm Which gives a little about the Round House. "The crenellated Round House was clearly built as an estate lodge, and the small buildings shown nearby on the O.S. map of 1882, and of which traces still remain, would have been keepers' kennels, pigsties and the like. The Round House pre-dates the coach road, as the ground round it has obviously been raised to take this road. It is unlikely that the road to the hall from this lodge followed the same route as the coach road, since before the very high embankment in front of Wilkinson House was built the climb out of the valley there would have been very steep. The estate road is more likely to have followed an easier route to the right. The house is shown as a 'Toll House' on the 1827 and 1840 maps, and it may be that the coach road to Bridgnorth via Dean Corner and Wiley crossed the valley at this point to enable it to be used as a toll house." Hope it's of some help Ken Manchester > As you travel from Barrow towards Brossley there is the site of the Willey > Iron Works, Nearby there is a house now called 'The Round House'. Is this > an old toll house? Which toll road was it on? > If it was a tole road did it go up towards Brossley (B4376) or did it > continue East to join the B4373?

Do not think I have seen this on the list before, from the Latest News. Ancestry Library Edition is now available free of charge at Shropshire Archives! This website contains a wealth of genealogical information including the 1841 - 1901 censuses. Just needs getting into Shrewsbury now! Hope the hot chocolate machine is working. Jo.

As you travel from Barrow towards Brossley there is the site of the Willey Iron Works, Nearby there is a house now called 'The Round House'. Is this an old toll house? Which toll road was it on? If it was a tole road did it go up towards Brossley (B4376) or did it continue East to join the B4373? Stuart Jamieson Researching Price and Shellbrook from this area.

Hi all A version of the following url was recently posted to the Powys list. I was amazed at the number of Denbighshire names that came up, with birth dates and the name of the ship. Also a couple from Shropshire. Worth going to the home page, which is, http://www.welshmormonhistory.org/ and doing a search. Go to immigrants and search by surname and first name. I was looking for an Edward Jeremiah Price (b. 1818 Ellesmere), a Mormon, who was supposed to be linked into my Price family of Ellesmere (LDS endowment records); he was not there and I have not been able to substantiate that link, even after 13 years of research. However, there were stacks of other Price's, many from the Clwyd area. Good hunting Graham Melbourne

Hi folks, My apologies for the error in one of the messages I forwarded to the list. The correct address to send all messages to the list is - ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com Cheers, Dave Jassie Why not visit 'Gen-Links' - http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~jassie/index.html

I would like to exchange information with anyone working on the Atkinson family in Shropshire. They were intermarried with the Waring's but any attempt I have made to contact them I have met with a solid block of ice. There is a book called "The Atkinson Family of Roxy and their related families" and my Waring's play a big part in that book. All I know is William Griffith Waring's memoirs says the there was no need to record his family tree beyond Edmund Waring born 1722 because it was already recorded back 12 generations. I have never been able to find that recording but have through diligence, hard work, and friends in England been able to go back 4 generations beyond Edmund to Henery Waring married to Joanne Pierce of Shropshire 1639. This last name I found in the above book and the Wills confirm the relationship. The one time I was able to contact a member of the Atkinson family they blocked me as soon as they found out I was related to the family. Please, if there is anyone out there that can help I would be very grateful. Sincerely, Renee L. Waring Owner Operator The Center for Waring Family History "We live as long as we are remembered." F = Luther Perks Waring m. Leah Jane Vaughn Clearfield Co., PA, USA GF = Edmund Luther Waring m. Eva Ruth Breth Clearfield Co., PA, USA GGF = Franklin Bowman Waring m. Florence Curley Clearfield Co., PA, USA GGGF = Thomas Waring m. Margery Beers 1836 Clearfield Co., PA, USA GGGGF = William Waring (Grandfather of William Griffith Waring) m. Gynnllian Hancorn 1793 Herefordshire, Engl. GGGGGF = Edmund Waring m. Anne Cooke 1748 Leominster, Herefordshire, England GGGGGGF = William Waring m. Margery Barley (Barloe) 1719 Leominster, Herefordshire, England GGGGGGGF = Andrew Waring (1665 - ) m. Ann Leominster, Herefordshire, England GGGGGGGGF = Andrew Waring m .Margaret Hays 1662 Shropshire, England GGGGGGGGGF = Henry Waring m. Joanne Pierce 1639 Shropshire, England

I would like to contact anyone who is researching the WEAVER family of Shropshire. My immigrant ancestor, Samuel WEAVER, came to Jamestown, Virginia, in 1623. He wss born in Cardington Parish, July 1600. Samuel's father was Thomas WEVER/WEAVER who was born in Rushbury Parish in 1572. Thomas married Margaret COWPER, 28 May 1590, in Rushbury. Thomas' father was William WEVER/WEAVER who was born about 1540. He married Anne ROBERTS, 17 Nov 1565, in Chelmarsh Parish. The marriage record says that William was "from Worfield Parish". I am most interested in any information whatsoever on the COWPER and ROBERTS ladies, and corresponding with anyone researching these families. Charlie Weaver, Winston-Salem, North Carolina, USA

Hi List. Thanks to everone who answerd ( Abbotale ) + Alan Will get back to you all soon as I find out anthing Thanks DOT

From: "Ross G. H. Cotton" <rgcotton@skylinc.net> Sent in error to: <ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L-request@rootsweb.com> Am interested in making contact with any person working on the genealogy of the surname COTTON/COTTEN; especially if they have living males of that name in their family lineage, that goes back within Shropshire. The reason is my interest in DNA Y-Chromosome testing, used to connect up different known families. My COTTON family lineage extends back to the 1600's in Shrewsbury SAL, and I believe it can be tied to other COTTON lineage of the 1500's Am the coordinator for a DNA testing Project, Worldwide, and you can see the results if you visit our WebSite at: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ I would be interested to see if I can connect with yours, as I have many thousands of records on my databases, for that general area. Ross GH Cotton, Burlington ON CAN 905)639-2929 Genealogy of the COTTON surname is my Enigma. I haven't sent an attachment if the details are not mentioned above. Check out my Genealogy Web Page at www.skylinc.net/~rgcotton GOONS member responsible for tracking the family name COTTON, #1437 Coordinator for Cotton DNA testing Project, Worldwide -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 04/07/2006

From: <Abbotale30@aol.com> Sent in error to: <ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L-request@rootsweb.com> Sorry Dot forgot to put the year down William T KYNASTON b Dec 1/4 6a 1258 Wem mother;s name HIGGINS 1919 The T of course could be Thomas. It was usual to call people by their second name. Kind regards Janice Researching: HAMPSON, STYCHE, GLADWIN, ABBOTT, ESBERGER, HOLLINGWORTH, HEMMINGWAY, CRESSWELL, KING, MATHER, ECKERSLEY, GOODALL, ROBINSON, ARAM, GEE, GRAFTON -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 04/07/2006

From: <Abbotale30@aol.com> Sent in error to: <ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L-request@rootsweb.com> Hi John If he died outside the country and in the Great War he probably will not be on the GRO. I have recently sent for a death Cert for one of my family that died in the Great War, but he did not have a GRO number. If you have got the ref number from the CWGC then you can phone the GRO and obtain the death cert from that ref number only. I hope this helps Kind regards Janice Researching: HAMPSON, STYCHE, GLADWIN, ABBOTT, ESBERGER, HOLLINGWORTH, HEMMINGWAY, CRESSWELL, KING, MATHER, ECKERSLEY, GOODALL, ROBINSON, ARAM, GEE, GRAFTON -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 04/07/2006

From: <Abbotale30@aol.com> Sent in error to <ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L-request@rootsweb.com> Please use ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L-request@rootsweb.com> to post messages to the list. Hi Dot I have searched 5 years either side of 1920 for your Thomas KYNASTON, but unfortunately with no luck. The closest I can get is this: William T KYNASTON b Dec 1/4 6a 1258 Wem mother;s name HIGGINS. I also have a Thomas E b Oswestry 1918 Mother's name DAVIES Good hunting Kind regards Janice Researching: HAMPSON, STYCHE, GLADWIN, ABBOTT, ESBERGER, HOLLINGWORTH, HEMMINGWAY, CRESSWELL, KING, MATHER, ECKERSLEY, GOODALL, ROBINSON, ARAM, GEE, GRAFTON -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 04/07/2006

This message from you shows that I: "Sent in error to: <ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L-request@rootsweb.com>" When I checked another message from you regarding Knaston surname it indicated: "Please use ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L-request@rootsweb.com> to post messages to the list." It was not an error as I intended it to be sent out to all members on the list. Please advise if I'm not allowed to doso? Ross GH Cotton, Burlington ON CAN 905)639-2929 Genealogy of the COTTON surname is my Enigma. I haven't sent an attachment if the details are not mentioned above. Check out my Genealogy Web Page at www.skylinc.net/~rgcotton GOONS member responsible for tracking the family name COTTON, #1437 Coordinator for Cotton DNA testing Project, Worldwide ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Jassie To: ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 4:02 AM Subject: [ENG-SHROP] Fw: COTTON Surname From: "Ross G. H. Cotton" <rgcotton@skylinc.net> Sent in error to: <ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L-request@rootsweb.com> Am interested in making contact with any person working on the genealogy of the surname COTTON/COTTEN; especially if they have living males of that name in their family lineage, that goes back within Shropshire. The reason is my interest in DNA Y-Chromosome testing, used to connect up different known families. My COTTON family lineage extends back to the 1600's in Shrewsbury SAL, and I believe it can be tied to other COTTON lineage of the 1500's Am the coordinator for a DNA testing Project, Worldwide, and you can see the results if you visit our WebSite at: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ I would be interested to see if I can connect with yours, as I have many thousands of records on my databases, for that general area. Ross GH Cotton, Burlington ON CAN 905)639-2929 Genealogy of the COTTON surname is my Enigma. I haven't sent an attachment if the details are not mentioned above. Check out my Genealogy Web Page at www.skylinc.net/~rgcotton GOONS member responsible for tracking the family name COTTON, #1437 Coordinator for Cotton DNA testing Project, Worldwide -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 04/07/2006 ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== DO NOT send 'Unsubscribe' requests to the list. Send a new e-mail with just the word - unsubscribe - in the message body to ~ ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L-request@rootsweb.com ~ Substitute -D- for -L- if in 'Digest' mode. ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Hi Cheryl That is very interesting. I am sure you have the correct family, although according to the GRO index John was born in 1888 and Richard in 1892; John was shown as age 2 at the 1891 census. Can you let me have more details of the immigration info off list, please? Or let me know how I can find it myself? My contact is John's grandson, another Richard. His father is also John, now in his 80's. (Confused yet?) Apparently the two John's didn't get on so the info is a bit scrappy. According to Richard (III), Richard (I) sold his farm in Market Drayton, giving John (I) and Richard (II) sufficient cash with which to emigrate. This makes sense - Richard (I) is a farmer at Marchamley in 1891 and a carter at Fauls in 1901. I was particularly interested that Richard (I) seems to have moved to Ironbridge. I don't know of a NewBridge Road, although there is certainly a New Road (I walked up it this afternoon!). Interestingly a Richard Sands is on the electoral register at 55 Church Street in the spring of 1920. I assumed Richard (II) had come back temporarily from the States, but perhaps his father was still around? Any light you can throw on the immigration would be most helpful. Thanks for what you have already told me. Regards John

I wondered about 'SANDYS" purely because of the politician Duncan Sandys (Pron Sands). The point about the directories is a good one but don't forget that people sometimes lived longer in Kellys than they did on earth! Judy On 7 Jul 2006, at 21:22, HyBarker@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 07/07/2006 in ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-D- > request@rootsweb.com > John writes: 'I wonder if someone can come up with a bright idea > for me!' > > > John! > > Just three comments - > > 1. What other spellings did you search in the Death Index? Did > you try SAND > as well as SANDS?. Did you check SENDS and SENTS? Often S gets > confused > with L and B - so did you check LANDS and BANDS? > > 2. Since he was a 'carter on his own account' he should appear in the > various Trade Directories. Have you tried tracking him in Trade > Directories - the > year he disappears will give you the year he died? > > 3. Have you tried the burial registers of the nearest Parish Church > and the > nearest cemetery to where he lived in 1901? They are probably > deposited with > the County Record Office. > > Good Luck! > > Cyril > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== > List archives can found at ~ > Searchable ~ http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl? > list=ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS > Threaded ~ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

In a message dated 07/07/2006 in ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-D-request@rootsweb.com John writes: 'I wonder if someone can come up with a bright idea for me!' John! Just three comments - 1. What other spellings did you search in the Death Index? Did you try SAND as well as SANDS?. Did you check SENDS and SENTS? Often S gets confused with L and B - so did you check LANDS and BANDS? 2. Since he was a 'carter on his own account' he should appear in the various Trade Directories. Have you tried tracking him in Trade Directories - the year he disappears will give you the year he died? 3. Have you tried the burial registers of the nearest Parish Church and the nearest cemetery to where he lived in 1901? They are probably deposited with the County Record Office. Good Luck! Cyril

Dot, there's a Thomas R. KYNASTON born abt. 1884 in Wem and living there with his father, Thomas Kynaston (born Wem abt. 1846) and siblings in the 1901 Census. Perhaps he's your son in law's great-grandfather. However, KYNASTON is a very common name in Shropshire - I have some Kynastons in my family tree. There's also a Thomas Geoffrey Kynaston born 4 Nov 1922, died Jan 1990 at Shrewsbury - if this is him, you could get the death certificate from GRO (district Shrewsbury, volume 30, page 310). Alejandro Milberg Boston, Mass. >>>> Hi List. I am new to your site so hope you can help me My son in law is called Mark Kynaston he wants me to help him look for his Granfarther. He is Called Thomas Kynaston was born about 1920 was born in ( Wem ) Shropshire. Hope you can help me with this thanks DOT