Hi Ian, Thanks for your reply - I followed the same sort of trail yesterday, and I couldn't find Park Issa in either Whittington or Salop Road either. I think I will contact the vets - worth a try, anyway. If you don't ask you don't get! Catherine's parents were William Rowland(s) and Catherine, so I think Robert must have followed the patronymic path. That had us puzzled for ages - as well as that, when Jane (fellow researcher) was looking for Catherine's Will the most likely one was for a MRS Catherine Williams. We eventually decided it was worth a look anyway and sure enough it was for our spinster Catherine. She's not referred to as Mrs anywhere in the Will so I'm not sure why she was indexed that way. It's definitely the right person - apart from the same death date she refers to her nieces and nephew with their parents' names. Which is why old Edward Davies and Charles Wilding are so interesting - there's no mention of a relationship or reason for the bequests. I'm off to email the vets - thanks again, Loretta Hi Loretta, > > The background image of the Park Issa Veterinary Hospital in Salop Road, > Oswestry features an old building which could be Park Issa? They have a > contact page so it might be worth asking them if they know anything > about the house's history? ( http://www.parkissa.com/ ) > > In the 1841 census Salop Road can be found at HO107/915-5/25/1 but I > can't see any mention of Park Issa. > > Otherwise, there is a Park Issa just north of Whittington, close to the > railway > > http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?lat=52.8736&lon=-3.0035&scale=25000&icon=x > > and you can see a photo of the house on the Geograph site ( > http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/194105 ) > > In the 1841 census Whittington can be found at HO107/916 but I can't see > any mention of Park Issa here either. > > If Catherine Williams was unmarried, why is her brother named Robert > Rowlands? Step-brother? > > Ian > >

Dear listers, As yet I haven't had a response to my message so I'm thinking there might not be anyone else researching our 3 x ggrandmother's KEAY family. In order to find further information, could sks please direct me as to what parish records or monumental inscriptions might be available for Whixall, Prees and Westbury so that I might be able to purchase them myself and not rely on others. On some census entries, the birthplace is shown as Prees and on others it is Whixall so I'm getting confused as to what to enter into my tree. On the 1851 census Whixall is crossed out and Prees entered instead. Am I right in thinking Whixall was the township and Prees the parish? I look forward to receiving advice on where I should look next. Thank you so much. Lee in Australia mlhaley@nor.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee" <mlhaley@nor.com.au> To: <eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:46 PM Subject: [ENG-SHROP] KEAY - parish records help please > I have John KEAY born c1786 Prees and Sarah KEAY born c1781 Westbury with > sons William, Richard and daugther Sarah according to census entries. No > doubt there were other siblings - I've found a couple of possibles on the > IGI named Eliza and Maria. > > I also found on the IGI the birth of a John Keay to Joseph Keay and Sarah > in > 1786 and also the marriage of a Joseph Keay to Sarah Davies in 1782. > > I've found William Keay's marriage to Dinah Ward and subsequent census > entries. I've also found Richard's marriage to Emma Haycocks and census > entries. Sarah is a mystery, she's shown as a widow on the 1861 census > with > her parents. > > There is also a grandson of John and Sarah mentioned on the 1841 and 1851 > census - his name was also Richard born c1834. I've no idea who he belongs > to.

Lee, Have a look on www.sfhs.org.uk and there under Sales, we have a "Society Publications Catalogue" PDF file containing all MI's, etc that are for sale. Graham WILLIAMS Shropshire Family History Society -----Original Message----- From: eng-shropshire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-shropshire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lee Sent: 11 September 2006 22:02 To: eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] KEAY - parish records help please Dear listers, As yet I haven't had a response to my message so I'm thinking there might not be anyone else researching our 3 x ggrandmother's KEAY family. In order to find further information, could sks please direct me as to what parish records or monumental inscriptions might be available for Whixall, Prees and Westbury so that I might be able to purchase them myself and not rely on others. On some census entries, the birthplace is shown as Prees and on others it is Whixall so I'm getting confused as to what to enter into my tree. On the 1851 census Whixall is crossed out and Prees entered instead. Am I right in thinking Whixall was the township and Prees the parish? I look forward to receiving advice on where I should look next. Thank you so much. Lee in Australia mlhaley@nor.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee" <mlhaley@nor.com.au> To: <eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:46 PM Subject: [ENG-SHROP] KEAY - parish records help please > I have John KEAY born c1786 Prees and Sarah KEAY born c1781 Westbury with > sons William, Richard and daugther Sarah according to census entries. No > doubt there were other siblings - I've found a couple of possibles on the > IGI named Eliza and Maria. > > I also found on the IGI the birth of a John Keay to Joseph Keay and Sarah > in > 1786 and also the marriage of a Joseph Keay to Sarah Davies in 1782. > > I've found William Keay's marriage to Dinah Ward and subsequent census > entries. I've also found Richard's marriage to Emma Haycocks and census > entries. Sarah is a mystery, she's shown as a widow on the 1861 census > with > her parents. > > There is also a grandson of John and Sarah mentioned on the 1841 and 1851 > census - his name was also Richard born c1834. I've no idea who he belongs > to. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 08/09/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 08/09/2006 ___________________________________________________________ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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Hello from NZ I would be grateful to anyone with the 1851 census of Chetton looking for me for the family of Griffith LLOYD aged c70, wife Ann ,children John, Hannah, Mary and Edward . One or two may still be at home. Living Pickelback Chetton in 1841. Thanks Jan McB

Loretta Thomas wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm new to this list and hoping to find out something about Catherine > WILLIAMS of Park Issa, Oswestry. Catherine was born about 1761 in Pennant > near Llanfyllin, Montgomeryshire, > and died unmarried in 1844 at Park Issa. The informant of her death was a > Sarah DAVIES of Park Issa ... > Hi Loretta, The background image of the Park Issa Veterinary Hospital in Salop Road, Oswestry features an old building which could be Park Issa? They have a contact page so it might be worth asking them if they know anything about the house's history? ( http://www.parkissa.com/ ) In the 1841 census Salop Road can be found at HO107/915-5/25/1 but I can't see any mention of Park Issa. Otherwise, there is a Park Issa just north of Whittington, close to the railway http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?lat=52.8736&lon=-3.0035&scale=25000&icon=x and you can see a photo of the house on the Geograph site ( http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/194105 ) In the 1841 census Whittington can be found at HO107/916 but I can't see any mention of Park Issa here either. If Catherine Williams was unmarried, why is her brother named Robert Rowlands? Step-brother? Ian

Hi all I'm new to the list and researching my GOUGH family tree. My GOUGH's seem to originate from Shropshire, but went over the border to Montgomeryshire around 1835'ish and then some went back to Shropshire in the late 19th Century. I have detailed below where I am with my GOUGH family tree. I need to find John and Hannah's marriage in order to get further back. I also would like to find John GOUGH's death certificate. John's last known residence was found on the 1871 census, at a Corn Mill called Marrington Mill in Marrington, Shropshire. I cannot locate him and his wife Hannah on the 1881 census, so at the moment I am assuming they died between 1871 and 1881. John GOUGH (b. c1810 Mainstone, Shropshire. Occ: Miller) married Hannah (b. c1809 Hyssington, MGY, Wales). Their children: - Sarah (b. c1831 Churchstoke, Shropshire) married George BENNETT (b. c1830) - children:- John (b. c1850 Kerry), Jane Elizabeth (b. c1858, Llandinam). - Jane (b. c1833 Kerry, MGY). - Thomas (b. c1837 Llandysil, MGY. Occ: Miner) married Anne GEORGE (b.1832 Llangurig, MGY) - children all born in Llangurig:- Thomas C. (b.c1855), Anne (b.c1857), Richard (b. 14 Mar 1859), William (b.c1864), John (b.c1867), Henry (b.c1869), Ellen J. (b.c1871), Joseph (b.c1873), Mary (b.c1875). - William (b. c1839 Llandysil, MGY) - John (b. c1842 Llandysil, MGY. Occ: Miller) married Jane (b. c1848 Scotland) - children:- John (b. c1878 Welshpool), Robert (b. c1880 Chirbury). Found this family on the 1881 census at Upper Mill, Wentnor, Shropshire - Susannah (b. c1844 Llandysil, MGY) - Catherine (b.1847 Llanmerewig, MGY) - Elizabeth (b. 1848 Newtown, MGY) - Trephena (spelling?) (b. 1848 Llanidloes, MGY) - Hannah (b. c1855 Llanidloes, MGY) Most of the information I have found is from census records and some from certificates. Regards Andrea

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Hi all, I'm new to this list and hoping to find out something about Catherine WILLIAMS of Park Issa, Oswestry. Catherine was born about 1761 in Pennant near Llanfyllin, Montgomeryshire, and died unmarried in 1844 at Park Issa. The informant of her death was a Sarah DAVIES of Park Issa. Catherine is buried at Llandrillo - her headstone reads: To the Memory of Catherine Williams, Late of Oswestry and sister of Mary Jones, the above/joining stone who died the 26 day of October 1844 Aged 83 years Also in memory of Robert Rowlands their brother who departed this life the 18th day of March 1847 Aged 84 years. Catherine has not yet been found in the 1841 census with any certainty (although there are a couple of contenders around Welshpool) and I haven't been able to find Park Issa in Oswestry in that census either - does anyone know what piece/folio number it might be on? Google searches for Park Issa only bring up veterinary services. Catherine left substantial bequests to Edward DAVIES and Charles WILDING in her Will - they are both at the Dairy, Powis Castle, with their families in 1841 and 1851. No family connection as yet but I suspect there may be. Both Edward and Charles were born in Shropshire and they feature in Catherine's Will ahead of her nieces and nephew. No connection has been found yet between Edward DAVIES and Sarah DAVIES, informant of Catherine's death. If anyone can suggest trails to follow for Catherine, Charles, Edward or Park Issa I'd be very grateful - this is becoming a tangled web! Loretta Melbourne, Australia

Hi everyone, I've just received a couple of certificates which prove that our ancestors are members of the KEAY family. I wonder if anone else if researching the KEAY family from Prees/Whixall? I have John KEAY born c1786 Prees and Sarah KEAY born c1781 Westbury with sons William, Richard and daugther Sarah according to census entries. No doubt there were other siblings - I've found a couple of possibles on the IGI named Eliza and Maria. I also found on the IGI the birth of a John Keay to Joseph Keay and Sarah in 1786 and also the marriage of a Joseph Keay to Sarah Davies in 1782. I've found William Keay's marriage to Dinah Ward and subsequent census entries. I've also found Richard's marriage to Emma Haycocks and census entries. Sarah is a mystery, she's shown as a widow on the 1861 census with her parents. There is also a grandson of John and Sarah mentioned on the 1841 and 1851 census - his name was also Richard born c1834. I've no idea who he belongs to. I'd be so grateful for any help with sorting out this family. Lee in Australia mlhaley@nor.com.au

Joan, My wife has Hotchkiss links on the Stiperstones in Wentnor parish. Her great grandmother was Maria Hotchkiss who was the daughter of Edward( a lead miner) and Mary Hotchkiss.She was part of the large family living at "The Bog" in the 1840s. Edward was, I believe, the son of Thomas and Mary Hotchkiss who were having Hotchkiss children baptised at Wentnor and Shelve during a time period from 1785 to 1811. Their family contained a William and a Richard but their dates of birth do not concur with the dates you have given for your William and Richard. From the Wentnor register. 19th February 1799 Edward Hotchkiss and John Botley buried. These two persons lost their lives from fatigue and the inclemency of the weather on the Stiperstones. Regards Leon mccarron@ns.sympatico.ca wrote: Dear Listers, Just beginning research into our HOTCHKISS line and wondering if anyone has links to this particular family. Possible line (not yet proven) is.. William HOTCHKISS (b. c1807 Wentnor) Richard HOTCHKISS (b. c1829 Wentnor) (sp. Charlotte LEWIS) William HOTCHKISS (b. c1868 MGY) (sp. Martha Annie PRYCE) Would love to hear from anyone with links! Joan :>) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

James, Rev. Thomas BEARCROFT was the 3rd son of Edward Henry BEARCROFT, of Haverfordwest, gent. Matriculated 28 June 1838, aged 19; B.A. 1842, M.A. 1847, died 2 Feb 1877. HONYMAN was up at Oxford at the same time: HONYMAN, (Sir) William Macdonald (Bart.), 2nd son of Orde John HONYMAN, of Twickenham, Middlesex, arm. WORCESTER COLL matric 22 Oct 1840, aged 20; B.A. 1845, M.A. 1847, 5th baronet, sometime curate of Stoke-upon Terne, Salop. See Foster's Baronetage. Both these are entries from Alumni Oxonienses. Nuala ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Phillips-Evans" <Blorenge@btinternet.com> To: <eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 2:33 AM Subject: [ENG-SHROP] Bearcroft, Honyman, Aylward and Jenkins > Dear List, > > I am writing a history of the Longcroft family which has two Shropshire > connections that I would like to expand upon: > > The first is Rev. Thomas Bearcroft MA (Oxon) (1818-1877) who was rector of > the parish of Fitz from 1862 until his death. In 1868 he married Mary L. > P. > Honyman, a relative of Rev. Sir William Macdonald Honyman, Bart., of > Cotton > Hall, Whitchurch. > > The second connection relates to Caroline Longcroft who married Horace > Aylward in London in 1820. I believe they are the parents of Annette > Louisa > Robertina Aylward who was born in Belgium circa 1823 and who married > Major-General Charles V. Jenkins in 1847. In 1881 they were living at > Cruckton Hall, Pontesbury. > > What I have stated above is pretty much all I know so if anyone has any > further information about any of these individuals I would be very > interested to hear. Thank you. > > James Phillips-Evans > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Dear Listers, Just beginning research into our HOTCHKISS line and wondering if anyone has links to this particular family. Possible line (not yet proven) is.. William HOTCHKISS (b. c1807 Wentnor) Richard HOTCHKISS (b. c1829 Wentnor) (sp. Charlotte LEWIS) William HOTCHKISS (b. c1868 MGY) (sp. Martha Annie PRYCE) Would love to hear from anyone with links! Joan :>)

Hi everyone I have just recently joined the group and am looking for anyone that might have some links or knowledge of this surname as stated in the subject line. I am trying to trace the name about the areas of Grinshill, Preston Gubbals, and Hadnell mainly, but there could be others that my research has not expanded to yet. My ancestor was a JOHN CANK who was from Grinshill and his wife was an ELIZABETH BROOKS from Hadnell. As far as I can follow at the moment, they had a family of eleven children and would be thrilled to make contact with anyone who is from any of these lines or has any persons with the CANK surname linked to their research. The eleven children of this CANK family were..... (1) - William (1831) (who is my great Grandfather) (2) - Elizabeth (1834) (know nothing of her yet) (3) - Sara (1836) (know nothing of her yet) (4) - John (1839) (know nothing of him yet) (5) - Ann (1840-1840) (6) - Ann (1842-1843) (7) - Mary (1844) (married John HATTON) (8) - Emma (1847) (know nothing of her yet) (9) - Thomas (1850 (married a Mary PRESCOTT) (10) - George (1852) (married someone called Mary Jane -surname unknown at the moment) (11) - Caroline (1855) (married William THATCHER) Anyone with any links or records that have this surname somewhere would be a real plus for me, as I am relatively housebound and so my computer is my main way of gaining any data to continue my findings. Looking forward to hearing from anyone that could be linked. Thankyou Bye for now Margaret Bauer ****************************** Margaret Bauer Queensland, Australia bauerm@tpg.com.au ******************************

Hello Margaret in Australia, Is the Elizabeth Cank, widow born 1812 Hadnall, yours in the 1881? Just looking quickly at the Shropshire disk, not other counties, found a possible George born 1853, stonemason, but you may have ruled him out as only resident in a named parish, born Market Drayton think it said. What info do you have for the occupation of the male offspring of John and Elizabeth? If they were in a skilled trade, or shopkeeper or farmer, or similar, they may show up in directories under the trades section, which could lead to which parish they were living in at the time. If labs, ag labs, or us common mortals, no go. Then if in Shropshire, someone on this list may well be able to help. Did a quick Google, which gave me Clive to search for Cank surname, in addition to parishes stated by you. However these are other christian names. 1870 directory: Cank Samuel, mason, Clive. from google: from http://parishmouse.com/ Clive Cassey Shropshire Directory 1871 Cank Samuel, stone mason, quarry owner, builder, and contractor Another link was probably for a living CANK female in discus, (sport). Parish Mouse, above had The Register of Clive 1810 to 1812. 1811 May 5. George, s. of Samuel & Mary Cank, bap. undated: and a rootsweb connection may be worth a try if it does not bounce: Cank16001920don't know Dereksbu Shropshire. undated from a rootsweb list, dont know refers to migration Jo.

Dear List, I am writing a history of the Longcroft family which has two Shropshire connections that I would like to expand upon: The first is Rev. Thomas Bearcroft MA (Oxon) (1818-1877) who was rector of the parish of Fitz from 1862 until his death. In 1868 he married Mary L. P. Honyman, a relative of Rev. Sir William Macdonald Honyman, Bart., of Cotton Hall, Whitchurch. The second connection relates to Caroline Longcroft who married Horace Aylward in London in 1820. I believe they are the parents of Annette Louisa Robertina Aylward who was born in Belgium circa 1823 and who married Major-General Charles V. Jenkins in 1847. In 1881 they were living at Cruckton Hall, Pontesbury. What I have stated above is pretty much all I know so if anyone has any further information about any of these individuals I would be very interested to hear. Thank you. James Phillips-Evans

Hello Just come back off holiday, So I am back on my tree. I am looking for a connection on someone researching the Roberts family from Measbury Venetia Oswestry

Hi I'm looking for the family of Albert Bunn who was born in Newport News, 1849. He is my Great Great Grandfather and was a sailor, he died in Salford in 1889. Does anybody know anything about his parents, family and upbringing etc as my census searches have so far drawn a blank? Many Thanks Jonathan.