Hello all, Many thanks to Graham Price for his advice re St. Mary Magdalene, Bridgnorth registers. I have searched through LDS family history library films for christenings but my ancestors were baptised before 1813-1914. Also marriages before 1813. I think that trying to find the right John Gittos and Elizabeth Malpas and all their children is not going to be as easy as I once thought. My main research is for Benjamin Gittos, who was transported to Australia in 1826. All records I have from the Archives state that his native place was Bridgnorth Shropshire. He was tried at Warwick Assizes in 1824. He also had a brother William Gittus who was sentenced on the same day at Warwick, but also came from Bridgnorth. Can someone please help with the Shropshire end of this saga? Gittos/Gittoes/Gittus are all the same I think. Both Benjamin and William died in Tasmania in the 1800s. I have everything relating to this end of their lives but not the beginning.

I am trying to track a former member of our Society called Bill BEDDOWS, he did a lot of transcription work for us and then from what I can gather emigrated to France, would anyone by any chance know of him and how we may get in touch with him now, regarding some of the work he did for us? Please reply "off list" as we wouldn't want his current contact details to be published. If anyone can supply details, I will post a message to this board just to say that we have tracked him down. Regards, Graham WebMaster Shropshire Family History Society -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 15/09/2006

Hi Ian from putting the name into google South-West Shropshire Historical & Archaeological Society C J Train Position: Chairman Holland House Clunbury Email: Craven Arms Tel: 01588 660572 SY7 0HG Fax: Staff: Category: Society Last responded: 2006 Members: 160 Region: West Midlands Founded: 1988 Mike Fisher in Droitwich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian" <isl@dsl.pipex.com> To: <ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 11:29 AM Subject: [ENG-SHROP] South-West Shropshire Historical and ArchaeologicalSociety > Hi, does anyone know any details about the South-West Shropshire > Historical > and Archaeological Society? I am interested in their publication of > Shropshire Parish Registers with particular reference to Vol. XXIV. In a > note to Part 4 it states Quote>This fourth volume of the registers of > Bishop's Castle forms the fourth part pf the twenty-four volume of the > Registers of the Diocese of Hereford and has been transcribed by members > of > the South-West Shropshire Historical and Archaeological Society. An index > to this part has been prepared, but its publication has been deferred to a > time when the appearance of further parts will make it possible to print a > combined index.>Unquote. This was written in September 2003. I was > wondering if anyone out there has any additional information or knows of > any > contacts within the said society. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ___________________________________________________________ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

Hi, does anyone know any details about the South-West Shropshire Historical and Archaeological Society? I am interested in their publication of Shropshire Parish Registers with particular reference to Vol. XXIV. In a note to Part 4 it states Quote>This fourth volume of the registers of Bishop's Castle forms the fourth part pf the twenty-four volume of the Registers of the Diocese of Hereford and has been transcribed by members of the South-West Shropshire Historical and Archaeological Society. An index to this part has been prepared, but its publication has been deferred to a time when the appearance of further parts will make it possible to print a combined index.>Unquote. This was written in September 2003. I was wondering if anyone out there has any additional information or knows of any contacts within the said society.

Ann, I don`t know if any of the following is of any help. I did a bit of research into this family some years ago. It may tie in further back. Samuel RYDER of Moreton Say had a brother William and a brother Benjamin. Benjamin RYDER went to live in Newington, London and died there in 1776. His Will mentions his brothers Samuel RYDER of Moreton, Shropshire and brother William RYDER of Hinstock, Shropshire. Best of luck, Ann Moreton Say, Shropshire Parish Register Extracts 11 Jul 1706 Edward FRITH of Drayton and Jane RYDER married 15 Mar 1717 John RIDER of Ternhill buried … 23 May 1762 John son of Samuel and Mary RIDER bap 11 Mar 1764 William son of Samuel and Mary RIDER bap 25 May 1766 George son of Samuel and Mary RIDER bap 25 Dec 1766 William son of Samuel and Mary RIDER buried 29 Dec 1768 Samuel son of Samuel and Mary RIDER bap 16 Jun 1771 Elizabeth dau of Samuel and Mary RIDER bap 5 Apr 1774 William son of Samuel and Mary RIDER bap 6 Apr 1777 Benjamin son of Samuel and Mary RIDER bap 6 Jan 1780 Mary dau of Samuel and Mary RIDER bap 31 Dec 1782 Alice dau of Samuel and Mary RIDER bap 13 Feb 1791 Samuel son of John and Elizabeth RIDER bap 9 Jun 1793 John RIDER buried 21 Jun 1793 John son of John and Elizabeth RIDER bap 1 Jul 1798 John son of Samuel and Lettice RIDER bap 30 Dec 1789 John RIDER and Elizabeth LISTER married Wit: John SUTTON. Elizabeth RIDER 30 Dec 1793 John RIDER and Mary DOD married Wit: Elizabeth BATES.Thomas DAVIS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Ryder" <ann.ryder@paradise.net.nz> To: <ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 11:57 PM Subject: [ENG-SHROP] RYDERS OF HODNET/ WESTON/ MORETON SAY > Hello all – a request from New Zealand here! > I’m relatively new to this so please bear with me. > > I have traced back to George RYDER, b 1801 in Prees, d 1862 in Weston > I believe he was married to Ann HOPLEY (b 1797 in Whitchurch) m 1828 in > Prees (but there is some doubt that this is the RIGHT Ann?) > > I also believe that George’s father was Samuel RYDER b 1768 in Moreton > Say, but I need the church records to prove this and am having trouble > tracing them. > > I am also seeking a marriage record for my GGF – Samuel RYDER (not a > very imaginative lot re their naming !) b 1860/61 in Whitchurch, d abt > 1940. > He married an Alice (I think by process of elimination was a KYNASTON), > but I can’t trace their marriage records – assuming there was one!. > (I traced a marriage of Samuel Ryder in 1894 in Wem, but it was not to > an Alice). > > Please – any help gratefully received !! > > > Ann Ryder > Director > Ethos Coaching & Development Ltd > > PO Box 664, Paraparaumu > (027) 222 8775, (04) 904 1480 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: > 15/09/2006 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello all – a request from New Zealand here! I’m relatively new to this so please bear with me. I have traced back to George RYDER, b 1801 in Prees, d 1862 in Weston I believe he was married to Ann HOPLEY (b 1797 in Whitchurch) m 1828 in Prees (but there is some doubt that this is the RIGHT Ann?) I also believe that George’s father was Samuel RYDER b 1768 in Moreton Say, but I need the church records to prove this and am having trouble tracing them. I am also seeking a marriage record for my GGF – Samuel RYDER (not a very imaginative lot re their naming !) b 1860/61 in Whitchurch, d abt 1940. He married an Alice (I think by process of elimination was a KYNASTON), but I can’t trace their marriage records – assuming there was one!. (I traced a marriage of Samuel Ryder in 1894 in Wem, but it was not to an Alice). Please – any help gratefully received !! Ann Ryder Director Ethos Coaching & Development Ltd PO Box 664, Paraparaumu (027) 222 8775, (04) 904 1480 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 15/09/2006

Limehouse is a common enough place name/ Could it be another word for lime kiln? They do tend to be isolated buildings. And they were an essential part of the rural economy in many parts of Britain. Judy On 15 Sep 2006, at 22:07, Michael J Hulme wrote: > Hello Julie > > This looked like a simple question but has proved to be almost > impossible to answer. I have only been able to locate two > references to > the Limehouse, the one that you already have from the (printed) parish > register and another from a Gazetteer of Shropshire place names which > has a one line entry:- > "Limehouse, The, Newtown, Wem." > Unfortunately the source for this entry is not given or the date > that it > refers to. > > Newtown, Wem, Shropshire is a very small place consisting of only a > few > houses and farms together with the Church and now a school. Northwood > is similar. > > I have spoken to a lady at the school and to two local farmers but > none > of them have ever heard of the Limehouse. > > I've checked the transcript of Monumental Inscriptions for Newtown but > none of the gravestones mentions Limehouse. I have looked at the > Historical Directories web site at www.historicaldirectories.org > but it > didn't produce any references for Shropshire > > The Old Maps web site at www.old-maps.co.uk is usually a good place to > help with problems like this but I couldn't see any mention of the > Limehouse. > > I think the Limehouse was probably the name of a house rather than the > name of a farm. There are still two possible sources that might show > something. > > Around the 1840's many areas were mapped and listed in connection with > the Tithe Commutation Act of 1836. These would be well worth > checking. > Also, the first large scale Ordnance Survey map at a scale of 25 > inches > to 1 mile (1:2,500) was produced about the 1880's. Either of these > might help you if someone can check them. > > Mike > ______________________________________________________ > > > Julie Fox wrote: >> Is anyone on the list familiar with the Northwood/Newtown area? I'm >> researching the Cooper family and a burial in 1790 at Newtown >> reflects >> the child was the infant son of William Cooper of the Limehouse. I >> know from other entries the family lived in the Newtown area, but >> I've >> not been successful in determining if Limehouse was a place or >> what it >> is. I've done various searches on the Internet without any result. >> Any input would be appreciated. >> >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> Julie in San Diego >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG- >> SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG- > SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: "veneita maynard" <veneitamaynard@tiscali.co.uk> To: <eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 5:41 PM Subject: [ENG-SHROP] Jutson > Hello > Looking for a connection on someone researching the names > Roberts. and Judson; from Measbury or Kinnerly back in 1800s > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Please change my mail to MIME Thank you Margaret Griffiths

Hello Looking for a connection on someone researching the names Roberts. and Judson; from Measbury or Kinnerly back in 1800s

Hello Julie This looked like a simple question but has proved to be almost impossible to answer. I have only been able to locate two references to the Limehouse, the one that you already have from the (printed) parish register and another from a Gazetteer of Shropshire place names which has a one line entry:- "Limehouse, The, Newtown, Wem." Unfortunately the source for this entry is not given or the date that it refers to. Newtown, Wem, Shropshire is a very small place consisting of only a few houses and farms together with the Church and now a school. Northwood is similar. I have spoken to a lady at the school and to two local farmers but none of them have ever heard of the Limehouse. I've checked the transcript of Monumental Inscriptions for Newtown but none of the gravestones mentions Limehouse. I have looked at the Historical Directories web site at www.historicaldirectories.org but it didn't produce any references for Shropshire The Old Maps web site at www.old-maps.co.uk is usually a good place to help with problems like this but I couldn't see any mention of the Limehouse. I think the Limehouse was probably the name of a house rather than the name of a farm. There are still two possible sources that might show something. Around the 1840's many areas were mapped and listed in connection with the Tithe Commutation Act of 1836. These would be well worth checking. Also, the first large scale Ordnance Survey map at a scale of 25 inches to 1 mile (1:2,500) was produced about the 1880's. Either of these might help you if someone can check them. Mike ______________________________________________________ Julie Fox wrote: > Is anyone on the list familiar with the Northwood/Newtown area? I'm > researching the Cooper family and a burial in 1790 at Newtown reflects > the child was the infant son of William Cooper of the Limehouse. I > know from other entries the family lived in the Newtown area, but I've > not been successful in determining if Limehouse was a place or what it > is. I've done various searches on the Internet without any result. > Any input would be appreciated. > > > > Thank you, > > Julie in San Diego > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Dear listers, If anyone is researching the WARD family from Wem or Whixall etc I would love to hear from you. >From the 1851 census in I have William WARD born c1795 Hopebondler Salop, wife Jane (maiden name possibly HINTON) born c1799 Wem, son David born c1840 Wem, daughter Dinah born c1843 Wem, daughter Ann born c1845 Wem. On the 1861 census when they are in Whixall the birthplaces are a little different. William by then is a widower born c1801 Churchstreton and daughter Ann is with him showing her birthplace as Newtown. Dinah is a servant in Castle Church and her birthplace is shown as Newport. I also have them in 1841 where two other children, George and Charles are shown. Dinah married William KEAY c1871 and had a daughter Sarah J. Keay c1879 Prees. Apart from Dinah I have no idea what happened to the other children apart from a possible marriage for Ann to Richard BRAYNE. I look forward to hearing from someone with a connection. Lee in Australia mlhaley@nor.com.au

Hi Mike: I had given up on hearing from anyone before your email popped up. Thank you so much for taking the time to review this and for your great feedback. I hadn't thought of it as the name of a house or farm, but you might be right there. I'll follow up on the other two suggestions you had as well. Again, thank you for taking the time. Kind regards, Julie -----Original Message----- From: eng-shropshire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-shropshire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael J Hulme Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 2:07 PM To: eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] Northwood and Newtown Area Hello Julie This looked like a simple question but has proved to be almost impossible to answer. I have only been able to locate two references to the Limehouse, the one that you already have from the (printed) parish register and another from a Gazetteer of Shropshire place names which has a one line entry:- "Limehouse, The, Newtown, Wem." Unfortunately the source for this entry is not given or the date that it refers to. Newtown, Wem, Shropshire is a very small place consisting of only a few houses and farms together with the Church and now a school. Northwood is similar. I have spoken to a lady at the school and to two local farmers but none of them have ever heard of the Limehouse. I've checked the transcript of Monumental Inscriptions for Newtown but none of the gravestones mentions Limehouse. I have looked at the Historical Directories web site at www.historicaldirectories.org but it didn't produce any references for Shropshire The Old Maps web site at www.old-maps.co.uk is usually a good place to help with problems like this but I couldn't see any mention of the Limehouse. I think the Limehouse was probably the name of a house rather than the name of a farm. There are still two possible sources that might show something. Around the 1840's many areas were mapped and listed in connection with the Tithe Commutation Act of 1836. These would be well worth checking. Also, the first large scale Ordnance Survey map at a scale of 25 inches to 1 mile (1:2,500) was produced about the 1880's. Either of these might help you if someone can check them. Mike ______________________________________________________ Julie Fox wrote: > Is anyone on the list familiar with the Northwood/Newtown area? I'm > researching the Cooper family and a burial in 1790 at Newtown reflects > the child was the infant son of William Cooper of the Limehouse. I > know from other entries the family lived in the Newtown area, but I've > not been successful in determining if Limehouse was a place or what it > is. I've done various searches on the Internet without any result. > Any input would be appreciated. > > > > Thank you, > > Julie in San Diego > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi there, Just a quick wondering if any of these names ring any bells with anyone ? My great-grandmother was one of 11 children and I am having a few problems piecing all the jigsaw together Here goes – William Davies ( of Long Stanton) and his wife Phyliss Martha Rowley ( Rowley’s of Worfield) Had 11 children – Mary, William (1881) , Martha (1882) , Lucy May (1884) , Lilian Maud (1885) , George Ernest (1887) , Rose Alice (1889), Daisy Ann (1890) Violet Edith ( born 1892) , Mary (1894) and William ( born 1897) I have been able to follow some lines, but have hit brickwalls on most of it so any help on any of the following would be much appreciated Martha married a John Worrall in Bridgnorth in 1916 – so far I have’nt been able to find any children Lucy married a Henry Weaver – possible children Henry and Frances ? Lilian Maud married a relative in the Cleobury Mortimer area in 1908 – a Thomas Davies. Possible children are -Frederick Jessie and Dolly. Rose Alice – no idea of husband, children etc as yet ? Mary Davies born 1894 – no info at all ? William Davies married Elsie Agnes Victoria Parry. Eight children. Some may still be living in the Kidderminster area. Best Wishes, Margaret

PS I just looked up and suppuration is the product of pus.. gross! Hi there, One of my relatives kindly sent me my great-great grandmother's death cert today Could some one please explain what the following causes of death means ? 1. a Pulmonary embolism b Suppuration in right leg c Erysipelas of right leg Any help much appreciated Best Wishes, Margaret

Hi This site is great for deciphering death certificates (Diseases and Medical Terms for Genealogists): http://www.sedgleymanor.com/diseases/diseases_front_page.html Best of luck, Kelly Hi there, One of my relatives kindly sent me my great-great grandmother's death cert today Could some one please explain what the following causes of death means ? 1. a Pulmonary embolism b Suppuration in right leg c Erysipelas of right leg Any help much appreciated Best Wishes, Margaret

Dear List, I have found the marriage of Rev. Thomas BEARCROFT (Rector of Fitz) and Mary Hester Lillie Rosalie HONYMAN in 1868. Despite the fact that he was 50 and she 44 they did have a child, a daughter named Elizabeth Hester Georgina Marie Ord BEARCROFT. She was married in London in 1891 to Robert Charles Dighton WILSON and together they lived at Redbrooke Lodge in the parish of Whitchurch. In 1913 Elizabeth changed her name to McQUEEN in connection with an inheritance of entailed property in Scotland, whether her husband and any children followed suit I do not know. I would like to find out if the Wilsons had any children (who may later have become known as McQueen). Thanks James Phillips-Evans

Hi, It can be St Georges or Oakengates so you could try just that and Samuel or Wrockwardine and Samuel (no Surname). Sorry, I don't have time to look for you but I have found lots of mine that way. Regards, Irene. At 14:06 14/09/06, you wrote: >Hi > > > >I am hoping that someone can help me find the missing census for this >family. I have found all the other census docs for this family except 1861 >and they always lived at Rock/Wrockwardine Wood/Wellington. > > > >In 1871: > > > >Samuel ELLIS (age 73) and Mary (age 64) live at Rock, Wellington, Shropshire >with their children Samuel (a miner, 20) Eliza (working in the pits, age >18), Sarah Ann (working in the pits, age 16) and John Henry (assistant, age >14). > > > >In 1861: > > > >Samuel ELLIS (age 53) and Mary (age 34) live at Rock, Ketley with their >children Ellen (13), Martha (8), Samuel (1), and Eliza (5months). > > > >I just cannot find them in 1861 and suspect that may they have been >mistranscribed due to poor writing or something. > > > >Does anyone have Ellis' in their tree - or can anyone help me find them in >1861! > > > >Thanks in advance! > > > >Kelly > >(from Perth, WA) > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

These causes are blood clot to chest a festering wound skin infection I suspected these things might be related and had a bit of a google. It could be that the underlying cause of death was deep vein thrombosis and the redness of the skin was caused by blood cells rather than an infection. The ulcerated wound fits nicely with this. A clot breaking away in the leg would then end up in the chest and cause death. http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec03/ch036/ch036b.html Judy (no medical training whatever so very willing to be corrected on this one!) On 14 Sep 2006, at 14:11, Margaret Sheridan wrote: > Hi there, > One of my relatives kindly sent me my great-great grandmother's > death cert > today > Could some one please explain what the following causes of death > means ? > 1. a Pulmonary embolism > b Suppuration in right leg > c Erysipelas of right leg > > Any help much appreciated > Best Wishes, > Margaret > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG- > SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for your help Irene - I found them!!!!! They seem to be missing that district in Ancestry (RG09 piece 1898 folio 97 page 9). Tried 1837online and found it straight away. Why didn't I think of that before!! Ancestry failed me again. Cheers, Kelly Hi, It can be St Georges or Oakengates so you could try just that and Samuel or Wrockwardine and Samuel (no Surname). Sorry, I don't have time to look for you but I have found lots of mine that way. Regards, Irene.