Dear listers, I have received a death certficate for my husband's ggggrandmother. Could sks please let me know where she might be buried - certificate shows registration district Wem, Sub district Prees, died 23rd March 1862 at Whixall. I'm grateful for any help in locating a grave. Lee in Australia mlhaley@nor.com.au

At 03:27 AM 21/09/2006, Pam Craven wrote: >I think what Shropshire are saying - certainly how I understood it when I >was last there - is that their Shropshire records on their CDs include all >of Shropshire not just a possible 1/3rd. Hi Pam That's sounds more like it, lucky Shropshire Archives to have them on CD! Re. some christenings missing online IGI, if you go back to the old microfiche edition of the IGI you can sometimes find the same problem. Some of the family shown, some missing. Access the original records via the microfilm, and bingo! Early transcription probs, I would think. Cheers Graham

Hello Lee You might like to include the full name of the deceased person with your message. Mike ______________________________________________________ Lee wrote: > Dear listers, > > I have received a death certficate for my husband's ggggrandmother. Could > sks please let me know where she might be buried - certificate shows > registration district Wem, Sub district Prees, died 23rd March 1862 at > Whixall. > > I'm grateful for any help in locating a grave. > > Lee > in Australia > mlhaley@nor.com.au > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Interested to share data with anyone with similar interests

Hi Margaret, who said; > They had Sarah b.1863. Lucy b. 1867. Frederick b. 1869. Harriette b. 1870 > and Elizabeth b. 1874. > As far as I know they were all born at Bridgnorth. Christened at St Leonard's church, Bridgnorth. Frederick on 12 April 1868. Harriet on 4 Aug 1870. Elizabeth on 12 June 1873. > > In the 1881 census Richard is listed as a widower..... > His wife Fanny was buried on 1 March 1880, age 51. Richard was buried on 23 Feb 1883, age 56. Both buried in Bridgnorth Municipal cemetery. Hope it helps, Gwynne Chadwick Transcribing the Bridgnorth town census. http://www.chadwickg.freeserve.co.uk/bridgcen.htm

I think what Shropshire are saying - certainly how I understood it when I was last there - is that their Shropshire records on their CDs include all of Shropshire not just a possible 1/3rd. Regards Pam -----Original Message----- From: eng-shropshire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-shropshire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Graham Price Sent: 20 September 2006 08:30 To: eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] IGI Online At 09:57 AM 20/09/2006, Martin J Hughes wrote: >Dear All >According to Shropshire Archives only 1/3rd of the IGI is online at any one >time, due to licence conditions, and is rotated over 2-6 weeks. However the >whole IGI is viewable on the CD's. Martin, I am not sure this is the situation. I can't find anything on any LDS site to substantiate this claim. I'd like more information from someone in the know. It would, of course, seem to be a fairly logical idea as the millions of records must take up an enormous amount of space. Again, I don't see how the whole IGI can possibly be viewed on the CDs as these were distributed years ago and the IGI is updated regularly. We have the old CDs in our State Library and these are pre 1999. Lots of records have been added since then. Is someone pulling our leg, or not? The British Vital Records discs, 2nd edition (as additions) were distributed in 2001 and these certainly are not on the early IGI (Family Search) CDs. As far as I know no Family Search or IGI CDs have been issued since the 1990s. There was a rotation system in place in the early days of 1999 when the online system was put into place because of the demand, but as far as I know that was discontinued. Anyone??? Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 09:57 AM 20/09/2006, Martin J Hughes wrote: >Dear All >According to Shropshire Archives only 1/3rd of the IGI is online at any one >time, due to licence conditions, and is rotated over 2-6 weeks. However the >whole IGI is viewable on the CD's. Martin, I am not sure this is the situation. I can't find anything on any LDS site to substantiate this claim. I'd like more information from someone in the know. It would, of course, seem to be a fairly logical idea as the millions of records must take up an enormous amount of space. Again, I don't see how the whole IGI can possibly be viewed on the CDs as these were distributed years ago and the IGI is updated regularly. We have the old CDs in our State Library and these are pre 1999. Lots of records have been added since then. Is someone pulling our leg, or not? The British Vital Records discs, 2nd edition (as additions) were distributed in 2001 and these certainly are not on the early IGI (Family Search) CDs. As far as I know no Family Search or IGI CDs have been issued since the 1990s. There was a rotation system in place in the early days of 1999 when the online system was put into place because of the demand, but as far as I know that was discontinued. Anyone??? Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz

Hi Margaret I am also interested in a REYNOLDS family maybe there is some connection my George married Maria SUMMERFIELD in 1823 in Worcester all of their children were given the middle name of Summerfield and some of the next generation have carried on that tradition My George was born in Much Wenlock in 1802 I believe Bridgenorth is not all that far away Look forward to hearing from you Joy also in Australia > Hi List, > > I have just joined in the hope I can contact someone researching my > family. Am > looking for the descendants of Richard Reynolds and Fanny Cox. They had > Sarah b. > 1863. Lucy b. 1867. Frederick b. 1869. Harriette b. 1870 and Elizabeth b. > 1874. > As far as I know they were all born at Bridgnorth. > > In the 1881 census Richard is listed as a widower with Frederick, Harriett > and > Elizabeth. > > Could someone please check the 1891 census and see if they can see where > any of > the children may be living. > > Thankyou for your help. > > Margaret Boots in OZ. > > ------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you go to the following site you will find that Benjamin Gittus, was tried for theft in Birmingham aged 15 in 1824 at Warwick and was acquitted. This means he was b 1809 not 1801? http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/corporate%5Cprisoner.nsf/AllDocs/C761518B83D9 D75980256E4A0043A0F4?opendocument The only others I can find are James Gittens 6 mth in Goal in 1813 William Gittens Acquitted in 1820 Benjamin above aged 15 Acquitted Wlater Gittens aged 25 in 1894 case Discharged None of the Warwick cases show that they were transported? Here is main page if you want to search further http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/Web/corporate/pages.nsf/Links/6022586A99937FF A80256ED9005765AF Are we looking for the right family? ON IGI someone has put into LDS a William Gittos 6/7/1804 and Benjamin Gittos b 1808 parents Edward Gittos and Many Ann Piggot This Edward and Mary married Astley Abbots 19/4/1790 ref M032181 Regards Pam -----Original Message----- From: eng-shropshire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-shropshire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Irene M. Fullarton Sent: 19 September 2006 23:38 To: eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] (ENG-SHROP) Gittos family name Hi Kathleen, Not sure if this helps but John mar. Mary Malpas 13.12.1795. Children Miria c. 22.3.1797, Mianna c. 30.1.1799, twins Benjamin and Anne b. 9.12.1801 c. 14.3.1802, Sarah b. 13.1.1805 c. 15.2.1805, James b. 8.5.1810 c. 13.5.1810 and Samuel c. 17.5.1816. Sorry no William but this is from the IGI so may be his entry was not transcribed or he just wasn't Christened. All at Bridgnorth. Regards, Irene. At 20:00 18/09/06, you wrote: >Hello all, >Many thanks to Graham Price for his advice re St. Mary Magdalene, >Bridgnorth registers. I have searched through LDS family history >library films for christenings but my ancestors were baptised before >1813-1914. Also marriages before 1813. I think that trying to find >the right John Gittos and Elizabeth Malpas and all their children is >not going to be as easy as I once thought. My main research is for >Benjamin Gittos, who was transported to Australia in 1826. All records >I have from the Archives state that his native place was Bridgnorth >Shropshire. He was tried at Warwick Assizes in 1824. He also had a >brother William Gittus who was sentenced on the same day at Warwick, >but also came from Bridgnorth. Can someone please help with the >Shropshire end of this saga? Gittos/Gittoes/Gittus are all the same I >think. Both Benjamin and William died in Tasmania in the 1800s. I >have everything relating to this end of their lives but not the beginning. > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Kathleen, Not sure if this helps but John mar. Mary Malpas 13.12.1795. Children Miria c. 22.3.1797, Mianna c. 30.1.1799, twins Benjamin and Anne b. 9.12.1801 c. 14.3.1802, Sarah b. 13.1.1805 c. 15.2.1805, James b. 8.5.1810 c. 13.5.1810 and Samuel c. 17.5.1816. Sorry no William but this is from the IGI so may be his entry was not transcribed or he just wasn't Christened. All at Bridgnorth. Regards, Irene. At 20:00 18/09/06, you wrote: >Hello all, >Many thanks to Graham Price for his advice re St. Mary Magdalene, >Bridgnorth registers. I have searched through LDS family history library >films for christenings but my ancestors were baptised before >1813-1914. Also marriages before 1813. I think that trying to find the >right John Gittos and Elizabeth Malpas and all their children is not going >to be as easy as I once thought. My main research is for Benjamin Gittos, >who was transported to Australia in 1826. All records I have from the >Archives state that his native place was Bridgnorth Shropshire. He was >tried at Warwick Assizes in 1824. He also had a brother William Gittus >who was sentenced on the same day at Warwick, but also came from >Bridgnorth. Can someone please help with the Shropshire end of this >saga? Gittos/Gittoes/Gittus are all the same I think. Both Benjamin and >William died in Tasmania in the 1800s. I have everything relating to this >end of their lives but not the beginning. >

Hi List, I have just joined in the hope I can contact someone researching my family. Am looking for the descendants of Richard Reynolds and Fanny Cox. They had Sarah b. 1863. Lucy b. 1867. Frederick b. 1869. Harriette b. 1870 and Elizabeth b. 1874. As far as I know they were all born at Bridgnorth. In the 1881 census Richard is listed as a widower with Frederick, Harriett and Elizabeth. Could someone please check the 1891 census and see if they can see where any of the children may be living. Thankyou for your help. Margaret Boots in OZ. -------------------------------------------------

Dear All According to Shropshire Archives only 1/3rd of the IGI is online at any one time, due to licence conditions, and is rotated over 2-6 weeks. However the whole IGI is viewable on the CD's. So I'm thinking I should develop a strategy of re-checking the same query every fortnight for at least 3 fortnights to see whether this produces fuller results by covering the entire IGI on a staged basis. Has anyone else had experience on this? Martin -----Original Message----- From: Graham Price [mailto:genetree@pacific.net.au] Sent: 19 September 2006 10:15 To: eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] (ENG-SHROP) Gittos family name At 03:48 PM 19/09/2006, ANDREA COX wrote: >If you try this site you should find quite a lot if you go to Shropshire >then Bridgenorth, This is good advice from Andrea. I was tempted and had a quick look, but couldn't find any Benjamin, so am wondering, Kathleen, if it is worth your while to continue with the St. Mary Magdalene registers? Not sure about this. I know from previous experience that some folks of mine have not been on the IGI (or the batch numbers) and then when I got hold of the original registers on microfilm, there they were as bold as brass! Don't want to give any false hopes to you, but sometimes it is worth persevering with. Once again I quote an example from the Ellesmere, Shropshire registers. On the IGI there were only two of my forebears, John & James Price shown to be christened at St. Mary's. When I eventually obtained the microfilm of original parish registers through the LDS folk, there were three more children christened to the same family, and no, it was NOT two families with same names of parents. One set of parents, one occupation, one individual address. So, why were these missing from the IGI? The answer may be that in older times transcriptions were done manually, now they are digitized. In older times folk doing the transcriptions were elderly because usually only the elderly had the time to give freely, much like most of ourselves, and possibly prone to missing things, as I can vouch for myself before my recent cataract operations. Before I was almost blind, now I can see! And brilliantly, at that. Again, transcribing depends upon the atmosphere you are in. If you are by yourself, you can concentrate. If you are in a group, ahah! That's a danger, because people can't help but talk even while they are transcribing, can they, especially if they are in a warm and friendly group? And you guessed it, concentration is distracted and errors creep in. Jump a line, jump a record, jump a year! Happens. Anyway, could be he and his siblings were baptised elsewhere! One needs to keep a lateral open mind as always. Maybe search further out from the parish? Any further suggestions, anyone? Over to you Good luck Graham -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 14/09/2006

At 09:54 PM 19/09/2006, Pam Craven wrote: >On the 1841 census there is a >John Gittos aged 70 Carpenter >Elizabeth Gittos aged 65 >They are both born in County and living in the Bridgnorth, parish of St >Leonards, Shropshire, looks like Listley Street >This could be Benjamin's parents? You do not say how old Benjamin and >William are? Yes, these could be. Benjamin, according to Kathleen, was transported 1826, so was probably born 1790-1806. Certainly seems to fit. Again, one must not get trapped into thinking that the Gittoes folk were always of the established church, some of them at some time may have chosen to worship at non-conformist chapels, hence no records in C of E. Many thoughts, many ways. Cheers Graham

At 08:34 PM 19/09/2006, 2twigs3 wrote: >Had a quick look at the IGI and there is a marriage for John Gittos & >Elizabeth Malpas, Bridgnorth 1795. M037341. >Benjamin Gittos born 1801, christened 1802, parents John Gittos & Elizabeth. >Theres a William Gittus christened 1801 in Worcester, parents John Gittus & >Elizabeth. >Worcester borders on parts of Shropshire. >Just makes one wonder. >Jo. Yes, certainly worth considering. Folk moved around a lot in those days. Coaches supplied most towns in those times and were easy to procure for travel. One could move about as freely as one could want, given a few sixpences, shillings etc. Cheers graham

At 03:48 PM 19/09/2006, ANDREA COX wrote: >If you try this site you should find quite a lot if you go to Shropshire >then Bridgenorth, This is good advice from Andrea. I was tempted and had a quick look, but couldn't find any Benjamin, so am wondering, Kathleen, if it is worth your while to continue with the St. Mary Magdalene registers? Not sure about this. I know from previous experience that some folks of mine have not been on the IGI (or the batch numbers) and then when I got hold of the original registers on microfilm, there they were as bold as brass! Don't want to give any false hopes to you, but sometimes it is worth persevering with. Once again I quote an example from the Ellesmere, Shropshire registers. On the IGI there were only two of my forebears, John & James Price shown to be christened at St. Mary's. When I eventually obtained the microfilm of original parish registers through the LDS folk, there were three more children christened to the same family, and no, it was NOT two families with same names of parents. One set of parents, one occupation, one individual address. So, why were these missing from the IGI? The answer may be that in older times transcriptions were done manually, now they are digitized. In older times folk doing the transcriptions were elderly because usually only the elderly had the time to give freely, much like most of ourselves, and possibly prone to missing things, as I can vouch for myself before my recent cataract operations. Before I was almost blind, now I can see! And brilliantly, at that. Again, transcribing depends upon the atmosphere you are in. If you are by yourself, you can concentrate. If you are in a group, ahah! That's a danger, because people can't help but talk even while they are transcribing, can they, especially if they are in a warm and friendly group? And you guessed it, concentration is distracted and errors creep in. Jump a line, jump a record, jump a year! Happens. Anyway, could be he and his siblings were baptised elsewhere! One needs to keep a lateral open mind as always. Maybe search further out from the parish? Any further suggestions, anyone? Over to you Good luck Graham

At 08:00 PM 18/09/2006, Kathleen Johnson wrote: >Hello all, >Many thanks to Graham Price for his advice re >St. Mary Magdalene, Bridgnorth registers. I >have searched through LDS family history library >films for christenings but my ancestors were >baptised before 1813-1914. Also marriages before 1813. Hi Kathleen Just a quick response as I can't quite recall the situation. If I understand your query, you are stating that records prior to 1813 are not available? Bridgnorth, St. Mary Magdalen regs prior to 1813 are available on microfilm via the LDs folk! Viz: Parish register transcripts, 1610-1812 Church of England. St. Mary Magdalene's Church (Bridgnorth) (Main Author) Notes Microfilm of original records at the Shropshire Public Library, Shrewsbury. Includes index. Contents: Baptisms, 1610-1812 -- Marriages, 1610-1808 -- Burials, 1610-1803. Manuscript (On Film) 1 microfilm reel ; 35 mm. Parish register transcripts - FHL BRITISH Film [ 510656 ] © 2002 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved. Also: Title, Parish registers, 1610-1914, Authors, Church of England. St. Mary Magdalene's Church (Bridgnorth) (Main Author), Notes, Microfilm copy of original records in the Shropshire County Record Office, Shrewsbury., Films 1526892 & 1526893 are high reduction (42x) microfilm. Use high magnification reader., Shropshire Record Office no.: 4030/1-7; 4030/BRg/1;, P41/A/3/1-3;, P41/A/5/1, Subjects, England, Shropshire, Bridgnorth - Church records, Format, Manuscript (On Film), Language, English, Publication, Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1990-1991, Physical, on 4 microfilm reels ;, 35 mm. & 16 mm., Film Notes, Note - Location [Film], Baptisms and burials 1610-1803 Marriages 1610-1761 Baptisms and burials 1770-1808 Births and christenings 1803-1812 - FHL BRITISH Film [ 1701119 Items 3-5 ], Baptisms 1813-1914 Burials 1813-1913 Marriages 1813-1900 - FHL BRITISH Film [ 1526892 Items 4-13 ], Marriages (cont.) 1900-1903 - FHL BRITISH Film [ 1526893 Item 1 ], Burials 1804-1812 Marriages & banns 1754-1812 Banns 1876-1900 - FHL BRITISH Film [ 1657532 Items 12-16 ], © 2002 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved., eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com I should think you might have a merry time with these. Cherrio Graham

On the 1841 census there is a John Gittos aged 70 Carpenter Elizabeth Gittos aged 65 They are both born in County and living in the Bridgnorth, parish of St Leonards, Shropshire, looks like Listley Street HO107/923/1 p8 This could be Benjamin's parents? You do not say how old Benjamin and William are? Regards Pam -----Original Message----- From: eng-shropshire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-shropshire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kathleen Johnson Sent: 18 September 2006 11:01 To: ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] (ENG-SHROP) Gittos family name Hello all, Many thanks to Graham Price for his advice re St. Mary Magdalene, Bridgnorth registers. I have searched through LDS family history library films for christenings but my ancestors were baptised before 1813-1914. Also marriages before 1813. I think that trying to find the right John Gittos and Elizabeth Malpas and all their children is not going to be as easy as I once thought. My main research is for Benjamin Gittos, who was transported to Australia in 1826. All records I have from the Archives state that his native place was Bridgnorth Shropshire. He was tried at Warwick Assizes in 1824. He also had a brother William Gittus who was sentenced on the same day at Warwick, but also came from Bridgnorth. Can someone please help with the Shropshire end of this saga? Gittos/Gittoes/Gittus are all the same I think. Both Benjamin and William died in Tasmania in the 1800s. I have everything relating to this end of their lives but not the beginning. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Had a quick look at the IGI and there is a marriage for John Gittos & Elizabeth Malpas, Bridgnorth 1795. M037341. Benjamin Gittos born 1801, christened 1802, parents John Gittos & Elizabeth. Theres a William Gittus christened 1801 in Worcester, parents John Gittus & Elizabeth. Worcester borders on parts of Shropshire. Just makes one wonder. Jo.

Thank you Judy for the additional input. That was something else I hadn't thought of. Julie -----Original Message----- From: eng-shropshire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-shropshire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of judy olsen Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 9:28 AM To: eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] Northwood and Newtown Area Limehouse is a common enough place name/ Could it be another word for lime kiln? They do tend to be isolated buildings. And they were an essential part of the rural economy in many parts of Britain. Judy

If you try this site you should find quite a lot if you go to Shropshire then Bridgenorth, regards Andrea Cox http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers.htm >From: "Kathleen Johnson" <kathleenjohnson@iprimus.com.au> >Reply-To: eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com >To: <ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] (ENG-SHROP) Gittos family name >Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:00:39 +1000 > >Hello all, >Many thanks to Graham Price for his advice re St. Mary Magdalene, >Bridgnorth registers. I have searched through LDS family history library >films for christenings but my ancestors were baptised before 1813-1914. >Also marriages before 1813. I think that trying to find the right John >Gittos and Elizabeth Malpas and all their children is not going to be as >easy as I once thought. My main research is for Benjamin Gittos, who was >transported to Australia in 1826. All records I have from the Archives >state that his native place was Bridgnorth Shropshire. He was tried at >Warwick Assizes in 1824. He also had a brother William Gittus who was >sentenced on the same day at Warwick, but also came from Bridgnorth. Can >someone please help with the Shropshire end of this saga? >Gittos/Gittoes/Gittus are all the same I think. Both Benjamin and William >died in Tasmania in the 1800s. I have everything relating to this end of >their lives but not the beginning. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message