Hi Margaret, I have found your family in 1891. I have found them through searching for the daughter Betsy. She has been transcribed as Betsy Bolton on Ancestry, but this was the name of the family living next door. Cheshire Street, Drayton in Hales Mary Ann Rea head Wid. 39 Charwoman Stotherton Worcs. Betsy Rea d. 18 General Servant Stourbridge Charles S, son 15 Grocer's porter Market Drayton William G. son 12 Scholar Market Drayton Sarah A. d. 8 Market Drayton Alfred Thomas son 3 Market Drayton Anne in Bolton, Lancashire. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Houghton" <jane@janehoughton.co.uk> To: <eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] Charles Rea - 1891 census help > Hi I have had a swift look for all family members in 1891 and can't find > any. Probably means name has been miss transcribed ---haven't time to try > permutations now but if no one else has helped will have a go later > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margaret Sheridan" <sheridansweep@hotmail.com> > To: <ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 1:14 PM > Subject: [ENG-SHROP] Charles Rea - 1891 census help > > >> Hi there, >> Just a quick note wondering if some kind soul possibly has the 1891 >> shropshire census and could do a quick look up for me ? >> I am looking for Charles Rea and family. >> Charles was born in Alveley around 1848 (occupation- Blacksmith ) >> Married to Mary ann- children include a Betsy, Charles and a William >> The 1881 census records them living in Drayton in Hales. >> >> Any help very much appreciated >> Best Wishes, >> Margaret >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release Date: > 29/09/2006 >

Hello anne, Thank you for your kind help - that really helped solve the mystery ! (wonderful !) I wonder what is recorded for 1901 ? Best Wishes, Margaret From: "pneanne" <pne.anne@ntlworld.com> Reply-To: eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com To: <eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] Charles Rea - 1891 census help Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 14:54:53 +0100 Hi Margaret, I have found your family in 1891. I have found them through searching for the daughter Betsy. She has been transcribed as Betsy Bolton on Ancestry, but this was the name of the family living next door. Cheshire Street, Drayton in Hales Mary Ann Rea head Wid. 39 Charwoman Stotherton Worcs. Betsy Rea d. 18 General Servant Stourbridge Charles S, son 15 Grocer's porter Market Drayton William G. son 12 Scholar Market Drayton Sarah A. d. 8 Market Drayton Alfred Thomas son 3 Market Drayton Anne in Bolton, Lancashire. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Houghton" <jane@janehoughton.co.uk> To: <eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] Charles Rea - 1891 census help > Hi I have had a swift look for all family members in 1891 and can't find > any. Probably means name has been miss transcribed ---haven't time to try > permutations now but if no one else has helped will have a go later > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margaret Sheridan" <sheridansweep@hotmail.com> > To: <ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 1:14 PM > Subject: [ENG-SHROP] Charles Rea - 1891 census help > > >> Hi there, >> Just a quick note wondering if some kind soul possibly has the 1891 >> shropshire census and could do a quick look up for me ? >> I am looking for Charles Rea and family. >> Charles was born in Alveley around 1848 (occupation- Blacksmith ) >> Married to Mary ann- children include a Betsy, Charles and a William >> The 1881 census records them living in Drayton in Hales. >> >> Any help very much appreciated >> Best Wishes, >> Margaret >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release Date: > 29/09/2006 > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I have had a swift look for all family members in 1891 and can't find any. Probably means name has been miss transcribed ---haven't time to try permutations now but if no one else has helped will have a go later ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Sheridan" <sheridansweep@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 1:14 PM Subject: [ENG-SHROP] Charles Rea - 1891 census help > Hi there, > Just a quick note wondering if some kind soul possibly has the 1891 > shropshire census and could do a quick look up for me ? > I am looking for Charles Rea and family. > Charles was born in Alveley around 1848 (occupation- Blacksmith ) > Married to Mary ann- children include a Betsy, Charles and a William > The 1881 census records them living in Drayton in Hales. > > Any help very much appreciated > Best Wishes, > Margaret > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi there, Just a quick note wondering if some kind soul possibly has the 1891 shropshire census and could do a quick look up for me ? I am looking for Charles Rea and family. Charles was born in Alveley around 1848 (occupation- Blacksmith ) Married to Mary ann- children include a Betsy, Charles and a William The 1881 census records them living in Drayton in Hales. Any help very much appreciated Best Wishes, Margaret

I had a look for you and found a Charles Read, Journey man Blacksmith in Drayton but his wife was Eliza and she was 47. There were no children mentioned so perhaps this is not them. Carol Buchan

Hello Thank you Mike for the upto date information about the Gwynne Index. I am sorry to hear of the death of Mr Gwynne, but pleased that his work has been passed on to the Shropshire FHs so that it can be made available to a wider audience. I will just have to hold on to my desire to complete this particular jigsaw puzzle. Thanks again Beverley Richards

Hello Beverley The reason you didn't receive a reply is because Mr Gwynne died some months ago. Since then his marriage index and that of the late Maurice Lewis have both been donated to the Shropshire FHS. Both indexes have only existed in paper form up to now so it is now intended to computerise them so that they can be made available on CD-ROM. Unfortunately the indexes are not available to researchers until the computerisation is completed which is likely to be many months as it hasn't really got started yet. See Shropshire FHS Journal Sept. 2006 Chairman and Secretary's letters. Mike ______________________________________________________ Beverley Richards wrote: > Hello > > I am new to this list and relatively new to family history in Shropshire, > although I have been researching for a while in Yorks and Lancs. I am > searching for a marriage which I believe may have taken place in Edgmond > between c 1817 and 1824 between Charles SOLLOM and Mary (possibly nee > JONES). I have been told that an index exists called the Gwynne index of > marriages in Shropshire during this time period but is in private hands. I > was given an address to write to but have received no response. > > I wonder if anyone has a more update address for the holder of this index > than that posted on GENUKI or if anyone has access to the Edgmond PR's of > that period. I contacted Shropshire Archives but they were unable to > undertake a look up as they said it was unindexed. > > Charles and Mary Sollom later moved to Ashton under Lyne in Lancashire, > where their children were born. I have been unable to uncover a marriage for > them there. > Any suggestions or help gratefully received. > > Regards > Beverley > > beverley@distanthorizon.co.uk > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hello I am new to this list and relatively new to family history in Shropshire, although I have been researching for a while in Yorks and Lancs. I am searching for a marriage which I believe may have taken place in Edgmond between c 1817 and 1824 between Charles SOLLOM and Mary (possibly nee JONES). I have been told that an index exists called the Gwynne index of marriages in Shropshire during this time period but is in private hands. I was given an address to write to but have received no response. I wonder if anyone has a more update address for the holder of this index than that posted on GENUKI or if anyone has access to the Edgmond PR's of that period. I contacted Shropshire Archives but they were unable to undertake a look up as they said it was unindexed. Charles and Mary Sollom later moved to Ashton under Lyne in Lancashire, where their children were born. I have been unable to uncover a marriage for them there. Any suggestions or help gratefully received. Regards Beverley beverley@distanthorizon.co.uk

Hi folks There has been an overwhelming response from listers wanting these two files. If anyone has not received their copies off-list by 30th, please let me know. I thought I might share with you this interesting recent research, though it does not necessarily equate to our lists, though it possibly could, depending upon who is researching what and where. My third cousin once removed, recently found a couple of years back and living in Canada asked me if I'd like to trace one of her genealogy research friend's family. Seemed a Thomas Roberts had emigrated from the UK to Australia about 1885. She had tried various links and found nothing. Fortunately, her Thomas was known to be a draper, and thus I found him, right age, etc. on a shipping list, then found him living in Carlton North, Melbourne, Victoria, in later days. Married, of course, you'd expect that. One child born and died in the same year. Then another child born 1897 and whoopee do, married, had children, and within 48 hours of the research I had found a living relative 80 years or so, right here in Melbourne 2006. Now that is something really spectacular. I've never before found a living relative for someone overseas in such a fast fashion. One has to be thankful for the directories, the electoral rolls, etc. which are in the State Library of Victoria. No census details are available because they were burnt each year as they were taken. Anyway, I considered that this person may not appreciate a telephone call from a male folk out of the blue so handed over all the info to the Canadian folk who are writing a letter as I speak. Once more, I hope that I have been in some small way instrumental in bringing a family, long lost, back together again. That's all that matters. Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz PS. The old family homes of the 1880s are still there, heritage protected, and totally restored. I went out and took some photos and was really amazed at walking through this heritage protected time-warp of the 1880s, nothing much changed, probably even the same old trees down the centre of the roads, still there after all this time. Was a bit scary I can tell you, because most of the other suburbs have been re-developed, but not this one. Totally full of old Victorian villas and totally unscathed by modern life. Dr. Who, eat your heart out.

Hi there, Just a quick note wondering how your are getting with the info I sent ? Give me a bell if you need any help Best Wishes, Margaret

Hi there, Just a quick note wondering if anyone is researching the Rea family of Wheathill or Alveley ? Benjamin Rea of Wheathill married Elizabeth Harley at Alveley Church in 1813. Between 1813 and 1826 they had five children baptised at Alveley Parish Church - THOMAS, baptised 1813 EDWIN, baptised 1815 SAMUEL, baptised 1818 FREDERICK, baptised 1820 BENJAMIN, baptised 1823 ELIZABETH, baptised 1826 Ring any bells with anyone ?

Hi Jo, Thank you for the information, I have tracked the Dorricotts through the census, found them on all except 1861, some say Montgomery and some say Shropshire Although the date of birth is given in a Family Bible, I except that they could have made a mistake, as I have found several families with incorrect birth dates, particularly years, and incorrrect birth place. I think I will have to go to Shropshire Record Office and see if I can find anything there, but your information is a possability. Many thanks. Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "2twigs3" <2twigs3@dsl.pipex.com> To: <eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 10:41 AM Subject: [ENG-SHROP] Hannah Parray (Mrs Dorricott). > Hello Kathy, > Probably sending you off on the wrong track. > The 1881 also gives Westbury, Shropshire, as birthplace for 70 year old > widow, Hannah Dorricott. > Westbury to Meifod, Montgomeryshire, is probably not close enough. The IGI > gives a submission only for Hannah Parry, > born April 1811, ch 30 Ap 1811. Parents Hugh Parry and Elizabeth Foulkes. > John Dorricott and his family all give Worthen, Shropshire, as place of > birth. Worthen is partially in Montgomeryshire. > > cheers, Jo. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The GRO index shows the birth of a John Harold MANNERING in 1906 at Wellington, Shropshire. Does anyone know anything about John? I am trying to connect this record to a John Harold MANNERING who was serving in the Royal Artillery in India in 1929. David

In a message dated 26/09/2006 in eng-shropshire-plus-request@rootsweb.com Kathy writes: I was always under the impression that it was usual for them to marry at Bride's residential area It was the way you worded the question that threw up another question to which I do not know the answer but relates strongly to what you want to know. If a girl went 'into service' her address changed to the place where she was living which was that of her employer. So - if she had lived and worked there for longer than the 15 days residential qualification legally necessary she could be married in the Parish Church associated with that place. My question is - how long did she have to live away from the place where she was born, christened, where her parents lived - ie the place which could be considered to be her 'home Church' - before she lost the residential qualification and could no longer be married there until she had re-established it as her home church by living in the parish for 15 days? Cyril

I couldn't find a Hannah Gough, born circa 1825 and daughter of James in the 1841 Census (Ancestry). Sorry, Alejandro We are trying to find any info about James Gough and hos daughter Hannah. We know Hannah was married in Dudley in 1848 (to John Evans), and subsequent Censuses show her as being born in Oldbury c1825 (give or take 3 years). On Hannah's Marr Cert, James is shown as a Millwright. Do they appear on the 1841 Census, or does anyone have access to the Oldbury Church records to trace her birth? ANY info greatly appreciated!! Regards, Pete & Sylvia

Hello Kathy, Probably sending you off on the wrong track. The 1881 also gives Westbury, Shropshire, as birthplace for 70 year old widow, Hannah Dorricott. Westbury to Meifod, Montgomeryshire, is probably not close enough. The IGI gives a submission only for Hannah Parry, born April 1811, ch 30 Ap 1811. Parents Hugh Parry and Elizabeth Foulkes. John Dorricott and his family all give Worthen, Shropshire, as place of birth. Worthen is partially in Montgomeryshire. cheers, Jo.

We are trying to find any info about James Gough and hos daughter Hannah. We know Hannah was married in Dudley in 1848 (to John Evans), and subsequent Censuses show her as being born in Oldbury c1825 (give or take 3 years). On Hannah's Marr Cert, James is shown as a Millwright. Do they appear on the 1841 Census, or does anyone have access to the Oldbury Church records to trace her birth? ANY info greatly appreciated!! Regards, Pete & Sylvia

Hello Mike, Thank you so very much for taking the time to look up the index for me. I had held out hope there would be a grave stone for Sarah too. I have been wondering whether to buy the parish records, I think now that it's my only option to find out more. Thank you again Mike, I had given up on any response to my query. Lee ----- > Hello Lee > > There is no trace of TOURNOFF or TURNOFF in the Shropshire Burials Index > at the present time, neither is there any trace of a grave stone > anywhere in Shropshire for either spellings. > > If your ancestors were Church of England then I would suggest you start > by looking at St Mary's Church records, Whixall. There was also a > Methodist Church and a United Reformed Church at Whixall, both of which > had their own burial grounds. > > Mike

Is there anywhere a kind researcher that can help, I am researching the Dorricott Tree, but one of my Great's - Grandmother was Hannah Parry, born February 4 1811 (according to family Bible), and in Westbury, (again according to census) although she married Richard Dorricott at St. Julian's Shropshire April 3 1837( I was always under the impression that it was usual for them to marry at Bride's residential area). I would like to find Hannah's parents or siblings, but I seem to be getting no where fast. I would be very greatful ifany one could help. Good luck to all researchers. Regards, Kathy

Hi all I don't think I gave the Shropshire list (apart from the Clwyd list) the opportunity of downloading John Jones' 1859 directory of Wrexham, Denbighshire, but for those who really have an interest, okay, let me know OFF-LIST and I will supply you with the PDF version if you need it. This is taken from the book my grandfather brought out to Australia 1880s before his original landing 1873, and who sailed back and forth a number of times before eventually settling in Australia. Please be aware that the PDF version of trades in Wrexham, though taking only a minute or two to download on broadband may take over 20 minutes on dial-up. Anyone still on dial-up (I know all about it!) will experience a fair delay in downloading, so think twice about this. The serial version of Genetree, my little family history publication which has been going on since 1994, is now available to anyone on these lists in a PDF version. August 2006 is the first edition PDF'd, so all other editions in the future will be available for anyone who wishes to take advantage of this. The main reason for this is to allow family historians to look and see what they themselves might be able to do in putting our a regular newsletter or magazine for their own relatives and others who are interested. Things certainly open up on the world-wide web. I was pleasantly, and at the same time, surprised in mind, to find that so many folk on these two lists would be so interested in doing much the same as I have done, putting out a family history newsletter for their relatives. I thought that I would receive about five or six replies from those interested. What a surprise to find out that over fifty folk on these two lists were interested in doing the same thing! I can't really believe it, but must accept it. Just goes to show you, never, ever, keep things to yourself. Let the list know what you are up to. You never know where things will lead to in family history research and as long as you make others aware of your needs you may then be pleasantly surprised. And that is what these lists are all about. Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz