Joy I know the Town well - what is your interest and can I help you with info. Mike Say At 19:07 13/10/2006, Joy Asghar Blueyonder wrote: >Thanks to Jo, have located Bishops castle, it has an apostrophe in Bishop's. >Joy > >I'm a lost cousin are you?? www.lostcousins.com > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/475 - Release Date: 13/10/2006

Hello Andy Try Brett Payne on the Derbyshire list he is good with photos. you can get him on bpayne@xtra.co.nz or pluepot@gmail.com Hope this helps. Regards Ellen ----- Original Message ----- From: "samiun" <samiun@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 9:48 AM Subject: [ENG-SHROP] STANLEY HURST >I have been sent a photo which l am told was taken in the 1870s. > The only writing on it is the photographers name Stanley Hurst Shrewsbury > and Wrexham. > l have looked at the 1871, 1881 and 1901 census and cant find any sign of > the photographer. > lf l can find when he was working then l can find when the picture was > taken. > Although l was told it was 1870s l think its much later. > Any ideas about what l can do next would be appreciated. > > Andy (LEICESTER) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have been sent a photo which l am told was taken in the 1870s. The only writing on it is the photographers name Stanley Hurst Shrewsbury and Wrexham. l have looked at the 1871, 1881 and 1901 census and cant find any sign of the photographer. lf l can find when he was working then l can find when the picture was taken. Although l was told it was 1870s l think its much later. Any ideas about what l can do next would be appreciated. Andy (LEICESTER)

Hello All, Does anyone know if the Memorial as still standing at Alberbury Church? In a recent photo I noticed the churchyard looked rather empty ;o(( Am hoping to have a trip down there, and wondered is it worth taking a load of sharpened pencils or not ? TIA Catherine in Cheshire

Thanks to Jo, have located Bishops castle, it has an apostrophe in Bishop's. Joy I'm a lost cousin are you?? www.lostcousins.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Asghar Blueyonder" <joy.asghar@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 6:43 PM Subject: [ENG-SHROP] Ancestral Villages > Hello All > > Have found this website thought i'd send along the irl for you all. > > http://www.ancestral-villages.co.uk/ > > Have tried to locate Bishops Castle, unfortunately not yet available. > > Happy hunting > Joy > > I'm a lost cousin, are you?? www.lostcousins.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.3/473 - Release Date: 12/10/2006 > >

Hello All Have found this website thought i'd send along the irl for you all. http://www.ancestral-villages.co.uk/ Have tried to locate Bishops Castle, unfortunately not yet available. Happy hunting Joy I'm a lost cousin, are you?? www.lostcousins.com

Hello Listers, A big thank you for the info., re Willow Street. Although I have not been there, I feel I now have a fairly clear picture of the street. My portrait taken in Willow St., is of a family member, Thomas Edwards, from Manchester. His father William was born in Kinnerley, so I guess Thomas was just visiting relatives in the area.( an uncle George had the Three Pigeons Inn at Great Ness) Derek. other Shropshire interests- Parkes/Gittins/Glover. & Edwards(Llansilin)

Hello Beth, I only have the Monumental Inscriptions for St Michael & All Angels Church, Alberbury (1688-1984). These are what I found: 1. In Loving Memory of Annie Bigford who died June 8th 1914 aged 65. Also Sarah Bigford, sister of Annie Bigford, died April 15th 1929 aged 79. 2. In Loving Memory of Mary Harriet only daughter of Charles and Harriet Bigford late of Hilcote, who died at Ryton Dorrington April 9th 1907 aged 18 years. "Thy will be done" Sorry I found nothing earlier. Tracy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth" <bwearing@eastlink.ca> To: <ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 5:23 PM Subject: [ENG-SHROP] BIGFORD of Alberbury > Hello All > > I am trying to find more about the BIGFORD family of Alberbury and > wondered if anyone had access to the PRs. I have a Mary Bigford c1812, d/o > Charles. He was a Carpenter according to her 1841 marriage cert. Are the > professions mentioned in marriages c1802. Charles might have married an > Elizabeth EVANS in 1802. > > Regards > beth in NS > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Very many thanks for the helpful contributions. Will report back with "success" as and when. Kind regards Mike Say -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.3/474 - Release Date: 13/10/2006

Hello All I am trying to find more about the BIGFORD family of Alberbury and wondered if anyone had access to the PRs. I have a Mary Bigford c1812, d/o Charles. He was a Carpenter according to her 1841 marriage cert. Are the professions mentioned in marriages c1802. Charles might have married an Elizabeth EVANS in 1802. Regards beth in NS

My 2x gt grandfather William Williams (b ~1800 in Fitz) married Ann Unknown (b ~1805 in Petton). Their first child was born in 1838. Neither this child nor their subsequent children were registered. I can not find a marriage for the couple so I can only assume the this took place before civil registration. My only hope of finding Ann's maiden name is from the marriage and my hope is that they were married at Petton. Does anyone know if the church records for Petton or the surrounding villages can be examined? Any help would be much appreciated.

I don't know if this is of any use but I have a William Williams in my family tree and he married Ann Wyke. This was in Shropshire but I'm not sure where. Ann was born in 1810. Carol Buchan

Hi Saira, Well I have to say that I didn't consider those things you mention as improvements( reconstructions) to enhance the aesthetic of the town. The pavement replacements were probably more to do with protecting against claims for compensation and the architecture of the new Wetherspoons will I doubt receive an overwhelming aesthetic accolade. I must confess that I wasn't aware of Willow Street being closed off for the reasons you mention but then again you will be aware that shutting of areas of the town is common place much to the aggravation of motorists and those who presently wish to stop and admire the new Cross structure at the end of Church Street. Anyway, perhaps we could discuss this further over a pint at the Boar's Head one Saturday night and take in the ambiance of our border market town.Long may it retain its border town identity and long may our borough council seek to enhance it. PS I like "Real Ale" the sort that is brewed in our own micro brewery next to the pub here in Trefonen!! Regards Leon SAIRA <saira.horner@btinternet.com> wrote: Hi Leon!! I guess Keith is probably thinking about all the new pavements, the removal of the bus pull in and the turning of the old sorting office into Wetherspoons that had the road closed for several months.....or did you sleep through that bit? ;o)))))))) We use Willow Street these days for Dr's, Solicitors, Woolies, Cheap meat and even cheaper beer on a rare night out!!! Saira :O) Message: 8 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:53:01 +0100 (BST) From: LEON KNAPPER Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] Willow St, Oswestry To: eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20061011175301.2013.qmail@web86607.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Not sure about the reconstruction bit Keith. Church Street has had some attention particularly one of the shuts that were passageways down to the town walls now non existant. Local businesses and the Borough Council have done a really good job on this passageway it certainly has a variety of small, thriving, commercial ventures which have been tastefully incorporated and is a joy to walk down. It is good to see that here at least we buck the trend set in the rest of the country where big is deemed to be beautiful. Willow Street itself is a mixed bag of offices such as solicitors including my own(always keep one on tap just in case!), dentist, optician,a few restaurants and the obligatory charity shop, oh and of course several pubs, where I am told a good Saturday night is to be had as long as the tribes don't come down from the hills or from other more so called civilised places. Most of the commercial premises are at the lower end of Willow Street near to The Cross. I am glad to say that there is in Willow Street, still architecture, that harks back to a previous age including the 1800s if the date inscriptions on buildings are anything to go by. But shush, don't tell John Prescott otherwise he will have the bulldozers in before you can heritage. Regards Leon from Oswestry www.hornerscorner.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi again Mike, We exchanged emails a couple of years ago so I know you already have the 1841 & 1851 census information for the HALDING family in Bridgnorth. Here is some additional information gathered since then; Notice in the local newspaper, The Bridgnorth Journal, dated 15 Aug 1863. Samuel HALDING, Carpenter of Low Town, discharged from bankruptcy. Mary HALDING, Wife of William, age 74. Buried 28 Dec 1870. Grave No.1290 Non consecrated ground. No headstone found today. On the 1857 list of Burgesses. Samuel HALLDING of 16 New Town, Bridgnorth. History, Gazetteer and Directory of Shropshire 1829. William HALLDING, Wheelwright, Raven St, Bridgnorth. All the best, Gwynne Chadwick Transcribing the Bridgnorth town census. http://www.chadwickg.freeserve.co.uk

Hi Mike Not sure this is going to be of any use to you, but there is a web-site which shows (mainly photos) of the Shropshire non-conformist chapels, but if you take down the details and check out these chapels with the help of maps, gazetteers, etc, possible you might find something close by to Astley Abbots. http://www.users.waitrose.com/~coxfamily/ There are an awful lot of them!!! Good luck Graham Melbourne Oz

Hi Leon!! I guess Keith is probably thinking about all the new pavements, the removal of the bus pull in and the turning of the old sorting office into Wetherspoons that had the road closed for several months.....or did you sleep through that bit? ;o)))))))) We use Willow Street these days for Dr's, Solicitors, Woolies, Cheap meat and even cheaper beer on a rare night out!!! Saira :O) Message: 8 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:53:01 +0100 (BST) From: LEON KNAPPER <leon.knapper1@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] Willow St, Oswestry To: eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20061011175301.2013.qmail@web86607.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Not sure about the reconstruction bit Keith. Church Street has had some attention particularly one of the shuts that were passageways down to the town walls now non existant. Local businesses and the Borough Council have done a really good job on this passageway it certainly has a variety of small, thriving, commercial ventures which have been tastefully incorporated and is a joy to walk down. It is good to see that here at least we buck the trend set in the rest of the country where big is deemed to be beautiful. Willow Street itself is a mixed bag of offices such as solicitors including my own(always keep one on tap just in case!), dentist, optician,a few restaurants and the obligatory charity shop, oh and of course several pubs, where I am told a good Saturday night is to be had as long as the tribes don't come down from the hills or from other more so called civilised places. Most of the commercial premises are at the lower end of Willow Street near to The Cross. I am glad to say that there is in Willow Street, still architecture, that harks back to a previous age including the 1800s if the date inscriptions on buildings are anything to go by. But shush, don't tell John Prescott otherwise he will have the bulldozers in before you can heritage. Regards Leon from Oswestry www.hornerscorner.co.uk

>Graham >Melbourne >Oz >Many thanks for the offerings - been there done that etc etc The great difficulty at ASTLEY ABBOTS and PONTESBURY is that the former has some horrendous records which are barely legible and aspirating an H in the 18th century was as tricky then as it is for some today and the latter has a tremendous number of records for LLOYD. SHROPSHIRE FHS has some very good data on Non Conformists but the records for the PONTESBURY area are problematic with the chops and changes of buildings and associated records during the late 18th and early 19th century. Kind regards Mike Say > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/472 - Release Date: 11/10/2006 > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/472 - Release Date: 11/10/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/472 - Release Date: 11/10/2006

> >Marjorie Lloyd Thompson >Sorry the only LLOYD which I have reasonably identified is MARY >LLOYD who married WILLIAM W(H)ALLDING at BRIDGENORTH in 1820 and >subsequent census data shows her as having been born in PONTESBURY >circa 1802. I believe their respective families were NonConformists. Regards Mike Say > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/472 - Release Date: 11/10/2006 > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/472 - Release Date: 11/10/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/472 - Release Date: 11/10/2006

Hi Brenda, In reply to your inquiry I have a Samuel Hignett Bickley, christened 16 Dec 1798, at Hordley, the son of Francis Bickley and Hannah Hignett. He was the eldest child of this couple. The 1861 census shows him married to a Mary, who was born about 1796 at Oswestry, but I do not know her maiden surname. Samuel is not a direct ancestor of mine but the elder brother of my 3rd ggrandfather, Andrew Bickley. Andrew died C1811 and his will names his children as: Samuel, Francis, Margaret and Martha. I also have downloaded Francis Bickley's will, dated 1842 and proved 1851, in which he names his children: daughters, Anna Maria, Margaret, Mary, Elizabeth and Frances; sons: Samuel and Andrew. I don't know of any Joseph Bickley in this family, nor do I recognize the Dodd or Parry name, but as I don't have marriage records for the above I can't say if they married into this family. Best wishes, Diana Robinson Ron & Diane wrote: >Have been reading with interest the posts regarding Bickley and Davies. I >have a Samuel Bickley on the 1841 census in Hordley, ...Malster, aged 40, >living with his wife Mary (Dodd) age 40. This Samuel Bickley witnessed the >death of my grgrgrgrandmother, Martha Parry (Dodd) in 1872, in Tetchill, >Ellesmere. I am enquiring whether Joseph, mentioned in past posts, might be >a brother to Samuel. Has your research uncovered any siblings for Joseph or >if there is any relationship to the Dodd/Parry family in your Bickley >research. > >The Dodds and Parry's lived in the Hordley, Bagley, Yeaton and Tetchill >areas. > >Kind Regards, Brenda > > >

At 03:06 AM 11/10/2006, you wrote: >Hello, >I have a photo taken by L.E.Morris of Willow Street, Oswestry around 1900. >If there is a lister who lives in, or visits the town, could they >say if Willow street is still in being and if so, is it a shopping >or residential area. According to my maps of 1901, Willow St was residential., but could have included some commercial premises. Anyway, L.E. Morris was one Miss L. E. Morris, photographic artist, of No. 59 Willow Street. Cheers Graham