I am looking for information on the the family of Thomas Foxall (1825) a tailor, who married Eliza Rogers.  They had several children, but I am particularly interested in a daughter, Frances.   Please reply if you are familiar with this family.  I have information to share regarding Frances and hope to find living relatives.   In your debt,   Jim Spargo Let me remember how it used to be and bring one morn back again.                                                                       David Copperfield  

Hi, I am tryng to trace the marriage of Matthew WASHINGTON to a Mary about 1700. Matthew lived at Weston under lizard all his married life but where he was born I have also been unable to trace. I have paid for a search in the staffordshire marriage index to no avail. Is there a marriage index for Shropshire I can try? Thanks Sue

Mike I think you are right about "Standon". The photocopy I have from the Stoke archives is very poor and I had to guess many words when making a transcription. But a second look, with your explanation and the link to the map, is persuasive. I shall follow up your suggestions as to the National Archives as well. Thank you for your time and advice...very much appreciated. Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:40 AM Subject: ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 278 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: History of Tong, Shropshire 1894 (Irene M. Fullarton) > 2. Re: History of Tong, Shropshire 1894 (Irene M. Fullarton) > 3. Re: MEDDINS (Jill Rose) > 4. Re: William and Martha Fox ([email protected]) > 5. Shropshire: It's Early History and Antiquities - 1864 > ([email protected]) > 6. Re: History of Tong, Shropshire 1894 ([email protected]) > 7. Re: William and Martha Fox ([email protected]) > 8. Re: William and Martha Fox ([email protected]) > 9. Re: where are the shropshire popes ([email protected]) > 10. Re: JOHN BATES (Michael J Hulme) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 17:06:11 +1000 > From: "Irene M. Fullarton" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] History of Tong, Shropshire 1894 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 17:09:03 +1000 > From: "Irene M. Fullarton" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] History of Tong, Shropshire 1894 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Hi Renee, > > I am in Australia so probably not. > > Any Meddings or Meddin/s in it per chance. > > Regards, > > Irene. > > At 15:50 21/09/2008, [email protected] wrote: >>I have available to whomever wants it the index to "The History of Tong, >>Shropshire" written by George Griffiths. You could put it on a web >>site if you >>like. If you are interested in the book you will find it on Google books >>or >>at : >>_http://books.google.com/books?id=kHEuAAAAMAAJ&pg=PR3&dq=%22History+of+Myddle%22&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&output=html_ >> >>(http://books.google.com/books?id=kHEuAAAAMAAJ&pg=PR3&dq="History+of+Myddle"&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&output=html) >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:21:36 +0100 > From: "Jill Rose" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] MEDDINS > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Irene > > There are a few MEDDINS on my website if you'd like to have > a look. Not from Tong, but not too far away. > > Best wishes > > Jill Rose > www.namesfromclwyd.org.uk > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:05:09 -0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] William and Martha Fox > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: mmcknnann > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6577.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hi > > I recently searched the Alberbury parish registers to look for my ancestor > Mary Fox who married Thomas Wilson in 1768. I made a note of all the Fox > families in the area and found the marriage of William Fox and Martha > Thomas in 1797. Also found the baptism of William, son of William and Mary > Fox of Criggion on 1 Jan 1768. I have more info going back to 1708 if you > are interested. > > Best wishes Ann > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 07:46:31 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: [ENG-SHROP] Shropshire: It's Early History and Antiquities - > 1864 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > This book can be found on Google books at : > _http://books.google.com/books?id=xukGAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Shropshi > re&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&output=html_ > > (http://books.google.com/books?id=xukGAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Shropshi > re&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&output=html) > > It includes the Domesday Survey of Shropshire with explanations of the > contents of the survey and info on the people mentioned. > > Renee L. Waring > > > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips > and > calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 07:47:52 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] History of Tong, Shropshire 1894 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > In a message dated 9/21/2008 3:05:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Hi Renee, > > I am in Australia so probably not. > > Any Meddings or Meddin/s in it per chance. > > Regards, > > Irene. > > > > No, sorry Irene. > > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips > and > calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:53:43 -0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] William and Martha Fox > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: jmitchell2006 > Surnames: Fox > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6577.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hello Ann > > Yes please, I am definitely interested in anything on this branch of the > Fox family. I am trying to connect them to the Fox Family that came to > Ontario. The dates for William & Joseph match up almost perfectly with the > information that I have. > > Thank you > Jude > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:20:44 -0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] William and Martha Fox > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: mmcknnann > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6577.1.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hi Jude > > I found several branches of the Fox family in the Alberbury registers. The > marriage of Thomas Fox and Mary Poulter took place on 17 September 1752 by > banns. William, baptised 1st Jan 1768 had a brother Joseph, who was > baptised 12 August 1770. Also found the burial of a Mary Fox of Criggion > on 15 October 1769. I have too much info to put on here. Is there another > way to send it to you? > > Ann > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 17:17:01 -0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] where are the shropshire popes > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: eamphlett > Surnames: Amphlett > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/1060.2.1.2/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hi Sarah > > Sorry uanble to help you on the "Popes" however hope you can help me. > > Saw your 2006 message on ancestry .co.uk. I am researching my Family Tree > "Amphlett" and have got back to 1672. The Broseley / Madeley Amphletts are > in my direct line. You say in your 2006 message that you have details of > the Broseley Amphlett's and I would appreciate any help you could give to > put more detail into my research. > Thomas 1823 - Benjamin 1799 - Thomas 1775 - John 1754 - William 1733 - > William 1705 - John 1672 - Richard ? > > I have stablished the tree line as listed above but do not have > information on children and spouses yet. Also very keen to find out about > the jobs these people did. > > My G G G G Grandfather ws descended from a Benjamin Amphlett who was born > in 1799 who had a brother Thomas born 1797 and a sister Elizabeth born in > 1814 are these the same ones your grandmother was descended from? > > Can you help with any Broseley or Madeley Amphlett's please? > > Regards > > Eric Amphlett > > Email: [email protected] > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 19:39:59 +0100 > From: Michael J Hulme <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] JOHN BATES > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hello Greg > > First of all, it is best to click "Reply" when you wish to continue with > a current thread, otherwise your questions and the answers get split up > and lose continuity. If you look on the Shropshire List at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/2008-09 > you will see your thread is now split into two different places making > it difficult for other readers to follow. > > Assize Courts were organised in "Circuits" and both Shropshire and > Staffordshire were in the Oxford Circuit but as far as I know an offence > would always have been tried in the same county that it took place so on > that basis the crime must have been in Staffordshire. > > The centre of Market Drayton is only one mile from the county boundary > with Staffordshire and Ashley is only another four miles (less than two > hours walk in total) so your man could easily live in Market Drayton and > walk to Ashley. > > I wonder if the place name of his employer has been printed incorrectly > because there is no Stanton close enough to fit the circumstances but > whilst looking at the map a few moments ago I noticed a place called > 'Standon' in Staffordshire which is about 4 miles from Ashley and about > 9 or 10 miles from Market Drayton. This would fit in much better with > the circumstances you have outlined. > > You can find detailed mapping online at > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=standon,+staffordshire&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=42.224734,75.234375&ie=UTF8&z=13&iwloc=addr > but if that doesn't work try this short cut to the same place > http://tinyurl.com/3npyhc > > When you look at the map Ashley and Market Drayton are west of Standon. > > The National Archives at Kew in London produce a lot of free Research > Guides, some of which are about Assizes, see > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/researchguidesindex.asp?j=1 > > Mike > Shropshire, UK > ______________________________________________________ > > > Greg Bugden wrote: >> Hello Graham >> Thanks for the welcome and reply. The trial was held at the Staffordshire >> Assizes. So the Stanton you mentioned in Staffordshire could be a likely >> candidate for the Blagg residence. But if the crime had been committed in >> Shropshire then I guess the trial would have been held in that county, >> unless all assizes in the region were held at Stafford. Do you know? >> >> However, the article tracks the movements of the prisoner before his >> capture: he went to a draper in "Drayton" (could that be Market >> Drayton??) and to a woman in "Ashley" (though the type is not very >> legible, could be "Astly"). These must have been nearby villages, within >> walking distance of Stanton. Additionally the money stolen was in notes >> from the Market Drayton Bank. >> >> As for his birth in Market Drayton, The IGI lists only one JOHN BATES >> born in Shropshire (his native place according to the Convict Indent) in >> the year 1807 (he was 18 at the time of the trial, hence this date), >> Market Drayton. >> Cheers >> Greg >> >> REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. >> Threaded Archives at - >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives >> >> Searchable Archives at - >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS mailing list, send an email > to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 278 > *************************************************** >

Mike Thank you. I will follow your advice and see where I get! Cheers Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 3:50 PM Subject: ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 276 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Sankey - Haytons Bent, Stanton Lacy (Eveline Clarke) > 2. Re: John Bates Convict (Michael J Hulme) > 3. Re: marriage of jennifer massey/arthur eggerton > ([email protected]) > 4. Re: marriage of jennifer massey/arthur eggerton > ([email protected]) > 5. Re: marriage of jennifer massey/arthur eggerton > ([email protected]) > 6. Re: JOHN BATES (Greg Bugden) > 7. History of Tong, Shropshire 1894 ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 09:23:36 +0100 > From: "Eveline Clarke" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] Sankey - Haytons Bent, Stanton Lacy > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Charles > > I have only seriously started looking at the Sankeys in Shopshire for just > a > few days 15th September actually. The reason being that for years I have > been trying to find the marriage of my Grandfather to Emily Sankey (his > second wife - I am descended from his first wife), However, family > lore > is that his first wife was a first cousin (yes I have "proven" that), the > story goes on that when he married again it was to another cousin. > After > searching for several years, freeBMD updated and there about 3 weeks ago, > I > found it and immediately sent for the certificate which arrived on 15th > Sept. Emily was born 1867 (I thought that she was about that year from > her > death certificate, but knowing she was 45 when she married Granddad, I > thought she was a widow and was looking for any other name but that, I was > quite shocked to read Spinster and that her father Edwin was a Woodsman. > I > looked on Family search for Emily Sankey born 1867 father Edwin and found > them. > > I agree with what you say his death, it does say aged 69 which agrees with > the early censuses. Regarding his birth, the censuses. The 41 says born > 1836, the 51 says 1837, I thought I had the 1861 but cannot find it now. > The 1871 says he was born 1840, the 1881 says age 41 which makes it 1840. > I > thought I had the 1891 as well (these two lost ones must be together > somewhere). The 1901 is really strange, that says 75 but that is > obviously incorrect. It also says that Caroline is 57 which is also > incorrect - so much for the 1841 being out by up to 5 years but the others > being correct. That is why I put between 36 and 41 although I agree with > you 1836 seems the most likely. > > No I don't have the birth of Thomas except for the census age which in > 1861 > was 1908 and in 1871 it was 1810. I thought this might be on IGI as the > records stop at 1812, but no, it wasn't. Another contact I have but him > and his wife Sarah born at Bridgenorth. The 1861 says Mary ????? (can't > read the surname) mother in law born Stoke St Milborough. However in > 1851, there is a Mary Linnaker staying with them put as a lodger, but > about > the right age to be Sarah's mother, so I wondered if the bit I couldn't > read > was Linacre (different spelling) but that might be me WANTING it to that, > I > am not at all sure. > > Sarah was still alive age 73 and living with son Shadrack in 1881. > > Edwin married Caroline Lewis in 1866 registered at Ludlow, so probably > married Stanton Lacy. > > In the 1851 census Caroline was age 6 born Stanton Lacy. Her father was > Samuel Lewis born Wistanstow age 52 her mother Margaret age 53 born > Stanton > Lacy and all the children born Stanton Lacy. I have not found the > marriage, but the married daughter was aged 19. However, there was also > a > Lewis grandchild staying with them, so there must be another son old > enough > to have a 2 year old son. So probably a bit older than his sister. So I > would think they amrried c 1930ish. Again, I have not found the > marriage. > > I think that is just about all I have found so far. Except to say there > were 3 Samuel Lewis' born at Winstanstow c 1800. The one born 1799 fits > in > with Samuel's age on the census. There was one born 1800, but I think he > must have died as there is another born to the same parents just 13 months > later. As an educated guess, I would say the earlier Samuel was > Caroline's > father, but of course that needs to be "proven". > > I would be interested in hearing how you are related to these Sankeys. I > have still not fitted Emily in as related to Grandad ergo, my mother and > myself and I would love to "prove" or "disprove" this fact. My great > grandparents names were Watts, Kington and Woodward, so if Grandad was a > first cousin, those names should come in somewhere. I thought I had all > his cousins marriages, but find I am about 3 short. My cousin also heard > the same story from her mother, so I think there must be a grain of truth > somewhere. > > I think now that you have all my research, which isn't bad for 5 days > work, > but I have come to a full stop. If you can throw any light on the > subject > I would be absolutely delighted. > > Hopefully, someone will reply to my query and if they reply off-list, I > will > let you know the result. > > Regards > > Eveline. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles Sankey" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 11:10 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] Sankey - Haytons Bent, Stanton Lacy > > >> Hello Eveline, >> >> From the 1841, 1851 and 1861 censuses, Edwin Sankey was probably born >> in 1836. His age at death confirms this. >> >> I do not have the birth or baptism of his father Thomas, and would be >> pleased to have any info on this. >> >> I have been studying the Shropshire Sankeys for some years, and would >> wecome any queries concerning SANKEY.. >> >> Regards, >> Charles Sankey, Johannesburg >> >> -------------- >> >> Eveline Clarke wrote: >> >>>I am hoping someone would be able to do a look-up for me in the parish >>>records for Stanton Lacy. On IGI the records end in1812. >>> >>>I am interested in Edwin Sankey's baptism and also the baptism of his >>>daughter Emily. >>> >>>Edwin was according to the censuses born anytime between 1836 and 1841 >>>and >>>he states born Stanton Lacy. When he died in 1906 his age was given as >>>69. >>> >>>I do have Edwin's censuses, but it would be nice to know his exact age. >>> >>>Emily would have been born c 1867 as she was aged 45 when she married in >>>1912 >>> >>>Edwin's father Thomas is also born Stanton Lacy he would have been born c >>>1811, but is not on the Stanton Lacy records on IGI. >>> >>>I would appreciate any help that could be given. >>> >>>Regards >>> >>>Eveline >>> >> >> REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. >> Threaded Archives at - >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives >> >> Searchable Archives at - >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:14:23 +0100 > From: Michael J Hulme <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] John Bates Convict > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hello Greg > > Your research has been made more difficult because John BATES appears to > have been born in the County of Shropshire but committed his offence in > the County of Staffordshire. As a general rule records for the two > counties are kept within each county so you need to pursue his > birth/baptism in Shropshire and his offence/trial in Staffordshire. > > I would suggest you post a similar message on the Staffordshire Mailing > List at > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/ENG/STAFFORDSHIRE.html > asking specifically for help and information relating to the place where > the offence took place and what records are available in Staffordshire > relating to the trial. > > As you pick up small pieces of information you may be able to ask more > specific questions and then get better answers. > > Mike > Shropshire, UK > ______________________________________________________ > > > Greg Bugden wrote: >> Hello Listers this is my first Shropshire posting. I am an Australian >> researching my convict ancestor JOHN BATES, who was a 'native of >> Shropshire' and a 'farmersman' according to the convict records I have >> investigated. >> >> I have received from your archives at Stoke-on-Trent a copy of the >> newspaper account of his trial (Staffordshire Advertiser 1825). >> >> He was found guilty of "breaking open and entering the dwelling house of >> William Blagg" at STANTON on the 23 July 1825, when he was 18 years old >> (ie born c.1807). >> >> John Bates was a 'servant' of Blagg at the time and the article says that >> John Bates' father had a house (nearby I suppose) which was searched for >> evidence. The article also says that John had a 'little brother' for whom >> a 'pinafore' was ordered made from some cloth stolen from Blagg's house. >> >> I would like establish John's family,and hoped the Newspaper account of >> the trial might help me do this. >> >> The IGI says there was a John Bates who was baptised at Market Drayton 11 >> Jan 1807. This could be my John Bates. The Parents named are Thomas and >> Hanna Bates, also of Market Drayton. They had other children, including >> young sons (Isaac and Abraham) who would have been infants/toddlers at >> the time of the trial: so possibly the "Little Brother" mentioned above >> for whom a pinafore was ordered. >> >> Does anyone else research BATES families in this area? Can suggestions be >> offered about confirming his family and background or perhaps providing >> details about the said William Blagg and his house/farm at Stanton? Are >> Market Drayton and Stanton near to each other? >> >> Any scrap of information will be appreciated, since there are no further >> Australian records left for me to pursue. >> >> Cheers >> Greg >> >> REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. >> Threaded Archives at - >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives >> >> Searchable Archives at - >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 09:20:18 -0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] marriage of jennifer massey/arthur eggerton > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: MichaelJHulme > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6578.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hello > > If you want the details of your father's parents you should obtain a copy > of your father's Birth Certificate which will include his mother's maiden > name. > > Mike > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 09:46:09 -0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] marriage of jennifer massey/arthur eggerton > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: ELLinSpain > Surnames: massey, eggerton > Classification: marriage > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6578.2/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hello > > If you obtain a copy of his death cert, combined with his marriage cert: > > Mar Q 1958 > Arthur Eggerton > to > Massey > Wellington > 9a > 642 > > it show you /- a year his correct birth year - the marriage cert should > also give both their fathers names & their occupations - these help > "prove" you linage - then you go find his birth cert with the dad the > marriage cert shows - and so on backwards > > Certs can be obtained online at a cost of £7 each all inclusive > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:25:26 -0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] marriage of jennifer massey/arthur eggerton > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: teggerton > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6578.2.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > thanks i will have a look thanks for your help > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 08:19:28 +1000 > From: "Greg Bugden" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] JOHN BATES > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello Graham > Thanks for the welcome and reply. The trial was held at the Staffordshire > Assizes. So the Stanton you mentioned in Staffordshire could be a likely > candidate for the Blagg residence. But if the crime had been committed in > Shropshire then I guess the trial would have been held in that county, > unless all assizes in the region were held at Stafford. Do you know? > > However, the article tracks the movements of the prisoner before his > capture: he went to a draper in "Drayton" (could that be Market Drayton??) > and to a woman in "Ashley" (though the type is not very legible, could be > "Astly"). These must have been nearby villages, within walking distance of > Stanton. Additionally the money stolen was in notes from the Market > Drayton Bank. > > As for his birth in Market Drayton, The IGI lists only one JOHN BATES born > in Shropshire (his native place according to the Convict Indent) in the > year 1807 (he was 18 at the time of the trial, hence this date), Market > Drayton. > Cheers > Greg > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 01:50:13 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: [ENG-SHROP] History of Tong, Shropshire 1894 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I have available to whomever wants it the index to "The History of Tong, > Shropshire" written by George Griffiths. You could put it on a web site > if you > like. If you are interested in the book you will find it on Google books > or > at : > _http://books.google.com/books?id=kHEuAAAAMAAJ&pg=PR3&dq=%22History+of+Myddle%22&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&output=html_ > (http://books.google.com/books?id=kHEuAAAAMAAJ&pg=PR3&dq="History+of+Myddle"&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&output=html) > > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips > and > calculators. 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Hello Greg Since my message of yesterday I have found confirmation that my theory was correct. If you go the Historical Directories web site at http://www.historicaldirectories.org/ then click on the 'Find by Keywords' button at the next screen you can select Staffordshire (or elsewhere) in the top drop down list. I would then just enter your own Keyword(s) "Standon" (without the quotes) in the appropriate box, leaving Decade and Key Name as 'All'. Then just click the 'Find Directories' button and see what comes up. When the list of Directories comes up on screen click on the word 'Directory' alongside whichever one(s) interest you, the first one called 'History, Gazetteer & Directory of Staffordshire, 1834' in your case and then I usually click on the 'Next Hit' button to go from one hit to the next. Do this about six times until you reach page 669 which describes Standon and then if you look further down on the right under Farmers you will find Wm Blagg listed. This confirms my assumption and allows you to continue your research knowing it is going in the correct direction. Mike Shropshire, UK ______________________________________________________ Greg Bugden wrote: > Hello Graham > Thanks for the welcome and reply. The trial was held at the Staffordshire Assizes. So the Stanton you mentioned in Staffordshire could be a likely candidate for the Blagg residence. But if the crime had been committed in Shropshire then I guess the trial would have been held in that county, unless all assizes in the region were held at Stafford. Do you know? > > However, the article tracks the movements of the prisoner before his capture: he went to a draper in "Drayton" (could that be Market Drayton??) and to a woman in "Ashley" (though the type is not very legible, could be "Astly"). These must have been nearby villages, within walking distance of Stanton. Additionally the money stolen was in notes from the Market Drayton Bank. > > As for his birth in Market Drayton, The IGI lists only one JOHN BATES born in Shropshire (his native place according to the Convict Indent) in the year 1807 (he was 18 at the time of the trial, hence this date), Market Drayton. > Cheers > Greg > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi Rose, Thank you for looking. Regards, Irene. snip >No, sorry Irene.

Hi Jill, Thank you, they certainly have the right given names. Cheers, Irene. At 18:21 21/09/2008, you wrote: >Hi Irene > >There are a few MEDDINS on my website if you'd like to have >a look. Not from Tong, but not too far away. > >Best wishes > >Jill Rose >www.namesfromclwyd.org.uk snip

I was advised a while ago by one of the assistants at Shropshire Archive that the Parish Registers for both Bridgnorth St Mary Magdalene and Bridgnorth St Leonard are being transcribed for publication sometime this year. Does anyone know when the publication date is and who's publishing it? I've seen anything mentioned on either the Shropshire FHS or Archaeological Society websites. Thanks, Tony

Hello Greg First of all, it is best to click "Reply" when you wish to continue with a current thread, otherwise your questions and the answers get split up and lose continuity. If you look on the Shropshire List at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/2008-09 you will see your thread is now split into two different places making it difficult for other readers to follow. Assize Courts were organised in "Circuits" and both Shropshire and Staffordshire were in the Oxford Circuit but as far as I know an offence would always have been tried in the same county that it took place so on that basis the crime must have been in Staffordshire. The centre of Market Drayton is only one mile from the county boundary with Staffordshire and Ashley is only another four miles (less than two hours walk in total) so your man could easily live in Market Drayton and walk to Ashley. I wonder if the place name of his employer has been printed incorrectly because there is no Stanton close enough to fit the circumstances but whilst looking at the map a few moments ago I noticed a place called 'Standon' in Staffordshire which is about 4 miles from Ashley and about 9 or 10 miles from Market Drayton. This would fit in much better with the circumstances you have outlined. You can find detailed mapping online at http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=standon,+staffordshire&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=42.224734,75.234375&ie=UTF8&z=13&iwloc=addr but if that doesn't work try this short cut to the same place http://tinyurl.com/3npyhc When you look at the map Ashley and Market Drayton are west of Standon. The National Archives at Kew in London produce a lot of free Research Guides, some of which are about Assizes, see http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/researchguidesindex.asp?j=1 Mike Shropshire, UK ______________________________________________________ Greg Bugden wrote: > Hello Graham > Thanks for the welcome and reply. The trial was held at the Staffordshire Assizes. So the Stanton you mentioned in Staffordshire could be a likely candidate for the Blagg residence. But if the crime had been committed in Shropshire then I guess the trial would have been held in that county, unless all assizes in the region were held at Stafford. Do you know? > > However, the article tracks the movements of the prisoner before his capture: he went to a draper in "Drayton" (could that be Market Drayton??) and to a woman in "Ashley" (though the type is not very legible, could be "Astly"). These must have been nearby villages, within walking distance of Stanton. Additionally the money stolen was in notes from the Market Drayton Bank. > > As for his birth in Market Drayton, The IGI lists only one JOHN BATES born in Shropshire (his native place according to the Convict Indent) in the year 1807 (he was 18 at the time of the trial, hence this date), Market Drayton. > Cheers > Greg > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eamphlett Surnames: Amphlett Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/1060.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Sarah Sorry uanble to help you on the "Popes" however hope you can help me. Saw your 2006 message on ancestry .co.uk. I am researching my Family Tree "Amphlett" and have got back to 1672. The Broseley / Madeley Amphletts are in my direct line. You say in your 2006 message that you have details of the Broseley Amphlett's and I would appreciate any help you could give to put more detail into my research. Thomas 1823 - Benjamin 1799 - Thomas 1775 - John 1754 - William 1733 - William 1705 - John 1672 - Richard ? I have stablished the tree line as listed above but do not have information on children and spouses yet. Also very keen to find out about the jobs these people did. My G G G G Grandfather ws descended from a Benjamin Amphlett who was born in 1799 who had a brother Thomas born 1797 and a sister Elizabeth born in 1814 are these the same ones your grandmother was descended from? Can you help with any Broseley or Madeley Amphlett's please? Regards Eric Amphlett Email: [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Renee, I am in Australia so probably not. Any Meddings or Meddin/s in it per chance. Regards, Irene. At 15:50 21/09/2008, [email protected] wrote: >I have available to whomever wants it the index to "The History of Tong, >Shropshire" written by George Griffiths. You could put it on a web >site if you >like. If you are interested in the book you will find it on Google books or >at : >_http://books.google.com/books?id=kHEuAAAAMAAJ&pg=PR3&dq=%22History+of+Myddle%22&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&output=html_ > >(http://books.google.com/books?id=kHEuAAAAMAAJ&pg=PR3&dq="History+of+Myddle"&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&output=html) >

PS. there are also 130 baptisms for Staffordshire and 123 marriages on the discs. Graham

At 04:00 PM 21/09/2008, Suttonian wrote: >Hi Renee, >I believe this is the original surname of the TUNKS family of Shropshire. >As I have Tunks on my mother's lines, I would be really interested in the >indexes. Hi Georgina These are Tunks from the BVRI discs - if you wish to have the full records of any of them let me know and I shall send them off-list. Chers Graham Melbourne Oz TONKES, Samuel Chr 1785 Engl Shro Wombri Fa: Samuel TONKES Mo: Elizabeth TONKS, Abram Chr 1795 Engl Shro Wombri Fa: William TONKS Mo: Martha TONKS, Mathew Chr 1796 Engl Shro Wombri Fa: Samuel TONKS Mo: Elizabeth TUNKS, Levi Chr 1800 Engl Shro Wombri Fa: William TUNKS Mo: Martha TONKS, Ambras Chr 1802 Engl Shro Wombri Fa: William TONKS Mo: Martha TUNKS, Ezekel Chr 1804 Engl Shro Wombri Fa: William TUNKS Mo: Martha TUNKS, William Chr 1809 Engl Shro Wombri Fa: James TUNKS Mo: Meriah TUNKS, Mary Chr 1839 Engl Shro DitPri Fa: Mo: Susanna TUNKS TUNKS, Mary Chr 1845 Engl Shro DitPri Fa: Thomas TUNKS Mo: Sarah No marriages.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mmcknnann Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6577.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Jude I found several branches of the Fox family in the Alberbury registers. The marriage of Thomas Fox and Mary Poulter took place on 17 September 1752 by banns. William, baptised 1st Jan 1768 had a brother Joseph, who was baptised 12 August 1770. Also found the burial of a Mary Fox of Criggion on 15 October 1769. I have too much info to put on here. Is there another way to send it to you? Ann Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jmitchell2006 Surnames: Fox Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6577.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Ann Yes please, I am definitely interested in anything on this branch of the Fox family. I am trying to connect them to the Fox Family that came to Ontario. The dates for William & Joseph match up almost perfectly with the information that I have. Thank you Jude Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mmcknnann Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6577.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi I recently searched the Alberbury parish registers to look for my ancestor Mary Fox who married Thomas Wilson in 1768. I made a note of all the Fox families in the area and found the marriage of William Fox and Martha Thomas in 1797. Also found the baptism of William, son of William and Mary Fox of Criggion on 1 Jan 1768. I have more info going back to 1708 if you are interested. Best wishes Ann Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Irene There are a few MEDDINS on my website if you'd like to have a look. Not from Tong, but not too far away. Best wishes Jill Rose www.namesfromclwyd.org.uk

Hello Graham Thanks for the welcome and reply. The trial was held at the Staffordshire Assizes. So the Stanton you mentioned in Staffordshire could be a likely candidate for the Blagg residence. But if the crime had been committed in Shropshire then I guess the trial would have been held in that county, unless all assizes in the region were held at Stafford. Do you know? However, the article tracks the movements of the prisoner before his capture: he went to a draper in "Drayton" (could that be Market Drayton??) and to a woman in "Ashley" (though the type is not very legible, could be "Astly"). These must have been nearby villages, within walking distance of Stanton. Additionally the money stolen was in notes from the Market Drayton Bank. As for his birth in Market Drayton, The IGI lists only one JOHN BATES born in Shropshire (his native place according to the Convict Indent) in the year 1807 (he was 18 at the time of the trial, hence this date), Market Drayton. Cheers Greg

In a message dated 9/21/2008 3:05:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi Renee, I am in Australia so probably not. Any Meddings or Meddin/s in it per chance. Regards, Irene. No, sorry Irene. **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)