Hello Ref the names Cox in BROSELY a contact of mine ,not on this list is researching the name Cox in Brosely. I could put you in touch with her. If you are interested contact me off list. Margaret riginal Message ----- From: "RPOOLE" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:10 PM Subject: [ENG-SHROP] Cox family in Madeley and Broseley > Good to see you found these 2 sites Linda. > Also, have a look at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ENG-IRONBRIDGEGORGE/2004-08 then > click on census (61-75), household 65. > Also, in the 1841 census there is an Emma Smith aged 8 in Ironbridge Rd > dau. of Henry (38) grocer and Elizabeth (28) Smith. Don't forget that > Broseley site too. > Richard, Auckland, NZ. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Linda > Marsh > > > Hello to All, > > I'm new to the list after being directed following a query regarding > Brockholes. > > My Cox ancestors lived in Madeley / Broseley area. At least two of the > children were born in Brockholes. They are then found in King Street, > Madeley. Another child was born in Madeley Wood and another born in > Broseley Wood. > > William Cox was a Cooper and his wife Emma (nee Smith) lived in the area > until 1871 when William died in Bicton Heath Assylm and Emma took her > family and moved to Brierley Hill. Emma's father was David Smith a Farm > Bailiff and the Smith family apart from Thomas (who had already moved to > Brierley Hill) stayed in the area. > > I would like to know where Brockholes and Madeley Wood were / are, and > from anyone else researching these families. > > Kind regards, > > Linda > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archi > ves > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > > > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.7/1798 - Release Date: 11/18/2008 8:59 PM

Good to see you found these 2 sites Linda. Also, have a look at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ENG-IRONBRIDGEGORGE/2004-08 then click on census (61-75), household 65. Also, in the 1841 census there is an Emma Smith aged 8 in Ironbridge Rd dau. of Henry (38) grocer and Elizabeth (28) Smith. Don't forget that Broseley site too. Richard, Auckland, NZ. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Linda Marsh Hello to All, I'm new to the list after being directed following a query regarding Brockholes. My Cox ancestors lived in Madeley / Broseley area. At least two of the children were born in Brockholes. They are then found in King Street, Madeley. Another child was born in Madeley Wood and another born in Broseley Wood. William Cox was a Cooper and his wife Emma (nee Smith) lived in the area until 1871 when William died in Bicton Heath Assylm and Emma took her family and moved to Brierley Hill. Emma's father was David Smith a Farm Bailiff and the Smith family apart from Thomas (who had already moved to Brierley Hill) stayed in the area. I would like to know where Brockholes and Madeley Wood were / are, and from anyone else researching these families. Kind regards, Linda REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. Threaded Archives at - http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archi ves Searchable Archives at - http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/

Thank you to Mike and Richard. I have found Brockholes on the map and am very grateful for the information and helpful tips. Kind regrds, Linda

Hello Linda The Brockholes and Madeley Wood were east of Ironbridge but neither is marked on the modern Ordnance Survey map. Following the River Severn east of Ironbridge to the next bridge over the river (the Free Bridge leading to Broseley) the wooded area to the north and east of this bridge is Madeley Wood. Starting again from Ironbridge, follow the B4373 road north east towards Madeley you should see a school on the east of that road. The Brockholes was the area west of that road directly opposite the modern school. If you have a look at the Old Maps web site at http://www.old-maps.co.uk and put Ironbridge in the Search box, then by zooming in a little you should be able to see both places named on the 1890 map. By the way, try to remember to put a meaningful entry in the subject line otherwise many people might miss your message. Mike Shropshire, UK ______________________________________________________ Linda Marsh wrote: > Hello to All, > > I am new to the list after being directed following a query I have regarding Brockholes. > > My Cox ancestors lived in Madeley / Broseley area. At least two of the children were born in Brockholes. They are then found in King Street, Madeley. Another child was born in Madeley Wood and another born in Broseley Wood. > > William Cox was a Cooper and his wife Emma (nee Smith) lived in the area until 1871 when William died in Bicton Heath Assylm and Emma took her family and moved to Brierley Hill. Emma's father was David Smith a Farm Bailiff and the Smith family apart from Thomas (who had already moved to Brierley Hill) stayed in the area. > > I would like to know where Brockholes and Madeley Wood were / are, and from anyone else researching these families. > > Kind regards, > > Linda > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hello to All, I am new to the list after being directed following a query I have regarding Brockholes. My Cox ancestors lived in Madeley / Broseley area. At least two of the children were born in Brockholes. They are then found in King Street, Madeley. Another child was born in Madeley Wood and another born in Broseley Wood. William Cox was a Cooper and his wife Emma (nee Smith) lived in the area until 1871 when William died in Bicton Heath Assylm and Emma took her family and moved to Brierley Hill. Emma's father was David Smith a Farm Bailiff and the Smith family apart from Thomas (who had already moved to Brierley Hill) stayed in the area. I would like to know where Brockholes and Madeley Wood were / are, and from anyone else researching these families. Kind regards, Linda

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tecwynsavage Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6596.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My "A to Z of Early Occupations" gives the following definitions: Breach maker - a person who made the breach for guns. Breakman - a bricklayer. A Google search found an article on The Sistine Chapel, which included the following: "The comprehensive restoration work that started on 7th November, 1984 took ten years to complete; it included the removal of the 'works' made by Daniele da Volterra. Daniele Volterra was an Italian mannerist painter (nick named II Braghettone (the breaches maker) as he was engaged by the church to give vests to the exposed parts of human bodies pictured in Michelangelo's images)." Could mean something! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello,   I have a James Edward Wheeldon in my tree and just recently I have found a burial for him hopefully.   James Edward WHEELDON of Glebe Close, Cheswardine buried 10th April 1965, age 74yrs.   His wife Mary (maiden name unknown)  was buried 23rd February 1962 age 70yrs.   I have never been able to find a marriage for James Edward Wheeldon.   If any lister can help me with anything about the above James Edward Wheeldon and his wife I would be very grateful.   James Edward Wheeldon was born in Salford, Lancs in Mar qtr 1891.  He had an older brother, Alfred Harry Wheeldon born Mar qtr 1887 in Salford, Lancs.   I have found nothing for Alfred Harry after the 1901 census.   TIA   Cynthia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pegivan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6598/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am seeking a William Walters, born around 1832 in Exeter, Devon. He moved to Australia and married Jane Davies/Davis around 1857. They had children called Edaburgah, Sarah, William and Charles. Their main residence in Australia was Bendigo (Sandhurst). Many Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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Hi, I have a Francis Jones who married 1803 Nancy/Anne Meddings. A heap of children (12) - most born at Weston under Lizard. Francis was a gardener. Anyone got a connection to this family? Irene. At 18:25 12/11/2008, you wrote: Hi Sally, I have a family of JONES who were butchers. I have a Father John with children - Thomas Henry born 1849/50, Richard 1851, Mary 1855 and Elizabeth ~1860. The first three born in Staffordshire and Elizabeth was born in Little Hales, Shropshire. Thomas Henry JONES was the butcher. Kind regards, Mavis in Kent snip

Hi This is slightly off the topic of marriage but I was looking through some transcripts of the Oswestry PR and came across 1728 Apr 12 Mr John Paynne of Argoid (sic) - a burial. This may be the same person. My interest is in the Paynes hence finding it. Rgards Jim Hill in Oz -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:46 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ENG-SHROP] Married in two churches on the same date? I was surprised to see a marriage appear in two different churches/parishes. >From the Kinnerley parish register, p.58 of the printed version: 29 June 1701, Mr. John Payne, of Argoed, and Eliz: Jones, of Llansanfried (sic). >From the St. Martin parish register, p. 134 of the printed version: 29 June 1701, Mr. John Payne of the Argot and Mrs. Elizabeth Jones of loer (sic) Ridge. Any ideas to explain this? They are certainly the same people. Thank you, Alejandro Milberg Boston, Mass. **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=htt p://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. Threaded Archives at - http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives Searchable Archives at - http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I have a Mary Jones married to William Kearn in 1789 Llanllchaiarn Wales. Any connection.? Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irene M. Fullarton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] Jones > > Hi, > I have a Francis Jones who married 1803 Nancy/Anne Meddings. A heap of > children (12) - most born at Weston under Lizard. > Francis was a gardener. > Anyone got a connection to this family? > Irene. > At 18:25 12/11/2008, you wrote: > > Hi Sally, > I have a family of JONES who were butchers. I have a Father John with > children - Thomas Henry born 1849/50, Richard 1851, Mary 1855 and > Elizabeth > ~1860. The first three born in Staffordshire and Elizabeth was born in > Little Hales, Shropshire. Thomas Henry JONES was the butcher. > Kind regards, > Mavis in Kent > > snip > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.2/1782 - Release Date: 11/11/2008 7:32 PM

The entries I posted were copied exactly from the Shropshire Parish Register Soc. books in both cases; there's no mention of banns, and if there had been in the original registers they would have been given, I guess. Thank you, Alejandro Milberg Boston, Mass. Graham Cole wrote: > Have you actually got two marriages registered, ie, in the marriage > register, or have you got a record of an intended marriage, ie the banns > announcement which would have had to be called in both parishes? Have a > closer look if that is possible. The other possibility is that the couple were married in one church and a note of the fact was recorded in the register of the other church with note saying married at the other which hasn't been subscribed **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)

Hi Sally, I have a family of JONES who were butchers. I have a Father John with children - Thomas Henry born 1849/50, Richard 1851, Mary 1855 and Elizabeth ~1860. The first three born in Staffordshire and Elizabeth was born in Little Hales, Shropshire. Thomas Henry JONES was the butcher. Kind regards, Mavis in Kent ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sally Walters" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] Jones > > Speaking of JONES, does anyone have any from around Wrockwardine, > Wellington? > regards, > Sally in Canada > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham Cole" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 9:31 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] Jones > > >> Do you know any of the children of your John Jones? >> Chris >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> Hi sill looking for some info on John Jones who was born 1798 >> Llansantfriedd his parents were John and Margaret >> they were Butchers >> regards Veneita >> >> >> >> >> REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. >> Threaded Archives at - >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives >> >> Searchable Archives at - >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Graham Cole wrote: > Have you actually got two marriages registered, ie, in the marriage > register, or have you got a record of an intended marriage, ie the banns > announcement which would have had to be called in both parishes? Have a > closer look if that is possible. The other possibility is that the couple were married in one church and a note of the fact was recorded in the register of the other church with note saying married at the other which hasn't been subscribed

Have you actually got two marriages registered, ie, in the marriage register, or have you got a record of an intended marriage, ie the banns announcement which would have had to be called in both parishes? Have a closer look if that is possible. Cheers, Chris -----Original Message----- I was surprised to see a marriage appear in two different churches/parishes. >From the Kinnerley parish register, p.58 of the printed version: 29 June 1701, Mr. John Payne, of Argoed, and Eliz: Jones, of Llansanfried (sic). >From the St. Martin parish register, p. 134 of the printed version: 29 June 1701, Mr. John Payne of the Argot and Mrs. Elizabeth Jones of loer (sic) Ridge. Any ideas to explain this? They are certainly the same people. Thank you, Alejandro Milberg Boston, Mass.

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I was surprised to see a marriage appear in two different churches/parishes. >From the Kinnerley parish register, p.58 of the printed version: 29 June 1701, Mr. John Payne, of Argoed, and Eliz: Jones, of Llansanfried (sic). >From the St. Martin parish register, p. 134 of the printed version: 29 June 1701, Mr. John Payne of the Argot and Mrs. Elizabeth Jones of loer (sic) Ridge. Any ideas to explain this? They are certainly the same people. Thank you, Alejandro Milberg Boston, Mass. **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)

At 08:25 PM 8/11/2008, you wrote: >Agree about the registers Graham. >I even wrote to the record office about marriages/births in the early 1800s >only to be told some churches still hold there own records and they gave me >some churches in the Shifnal area where that was the case. In 1992 the Church of England ruled that all registers which were 150 years old or more for baptisms and burials to be closed down and deposited with Record Offices, with the exception of marriages post 1837 even though many of these have also been deposited. Obviously some parishes did not comply with this ruling and as for marriages, did not have to. Cheers Graham

Further to the emails on church records...I have been told many times by record offices and vicars that the church is able to keep it's own records providing they can prove they have an adequate fireproof safe deposit box. I have been there when the vicar took out the relevant records [several times] and put them out for me to search within the last 15 years. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Price" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 4:26 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] Thomas Anslow help > At 08:25 PM 8/11/2008, you wrote: > >Agree about the registers Graham. > >I even wrote to the record office about marriages/births in the early 1800s > >only to be told some churches still hold there own records and they gave me > >some churches in the Shifnal area where that was the case. > > In 1992 the Church of England ruled that all registers which were 150 > years old or more for baptisms and burials to be closed down and > deposited with Record Offices, with the exception of marriages post > 1837 even though many of these have also been deposited. Obviously > some parishes did not comply with this ruling and as for marriages, > did not have to. > Cheers > Graham > > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1778 - Release Date: 11/9/2008 2:14 PM