This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wendyblack1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6602.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks. I'd found the 1851. I did find an 1841 for Harriett Griffiths in the Croydon Barracks so I'm guessing George was stationed somewhere. I can't locate the 1861 you mentioned. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wendyblack1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6602.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, Unfortunately I cannot find any information on him other than he enlisted in the Grenadiers in 1829 and listed Elsmere as birthplace. On his marriage certificate to Mary Beach, he lists his father as Edward. I cannot find a marriage certificate either for Harriett Hooker. I got that information on a marriage certificate for one of his children. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: michaeldavies45 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6602.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In case you haven't seen it, I am attaching the 1851 census which shows George (called Geo in census.) Looks as if Harriett died in 1855 in Croydon In 1861, George was living in Chiselehurst, Kent. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: skbook1 Surnames: Griffiths, Whatmore Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6602.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does your George have a sister Mary Ann born 1811? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wendyblack1 Surnames: Griffiths Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6602.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Marriage Mary Beach to George Edward Griffiths took place in Croydon, UK Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Where did he marry Mary Beach/Beech? Penny ----- Original Message Follows ----- From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: [ENG-SHROP] George Edward Griffiths b. 1806 Shropshire Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:03:28 -0000 > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this > mailing list. > > Author: wendyblack1 > Surnames: Griffiths > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6602/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hi, > I'm looking for any information regarding George Edward > Griffiths b. 1806 in Shropshire. Enlisted in the 1st > Regiment Foot Guards (Grenadiers) in 1829 (Salford > Manchester). Married Harriett Hooker (date unknown). > After retirement 1849 resided in Croydon, UK. Following > death of Harriett Hooker, he remarried Mary Beach in 1860. > Died 1867. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this > list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on > the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already > been answered. Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wendyblack1 Surnames: Griffiths Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6602/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I'm looking for any information regarding George Edward Griffiths b. 1806 in Shropshire. Enlisted in the 1st Regiment Foot Guards (Grenadiers) in 1829 (Salford Manchester). Married Harriett Hooker (date unknown). After retirement 1849 resided in Croydon, UK. Following death of Harriett Hooker, he remarried Mary Beach in 1860. Died 1867. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tecwynsavage Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6601/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Robert Illingworth married Mary Ada German (nee Green) in Birkenhead in 1908. Mary Ada was born in Whitchurch in 1873, married John Nicholson German in 1900 and was widowed in 1904. Have located a death of a Robert Illingworth in 1929 in Whitchurch and a death of an Ada Illingworth in Rhyl, North Wales in 1949. I have searched the Rhyl Municipal Cemetery but cannot find a grave for any Illingworth. My query is this: were Robert and Mary Ada buried together in Whitchurch? I haven't contacted the Shropshire authorities yet but any information on these families would be most welcome. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Are there any research experts for the area around Clun on the list? I am trying to find christenings for John Davies born 1790/91 and Thomas Davies born 1792/3. I am trying to establish that they were brothers and, if so, get some lead as to who their parents were. Thomas was my 3x-gr grandfather and married Susannah Howard at Clun in 1817 and their first child William was christened at Bettws y Crwyn later that same year. They relocated to Bilston Staffordshire shortly thereafter where Thomas was a Forge Laborer. I believe John may have married Mary Cadwallader at Clun in 1818. Based on census records, their oldest child that I am aware of was born in Clun in 1821/22 but I have not been able to locate a christening record for him. By the time their son John was born in 1826 the family had also relocated to Bilston Staffordshire where John was a Forge Laborer. >From this little bit of information I have on their early life, I do not know precisely where they were born only that it was in the general vicinity of Clun. The only records that I have been able to check were what are available for the area on the LDS website which includes Clun, Bettws, Llanfair-Warterdine and Mainstone. What I would like to know is what other churches were in that area in the late 1700’s. I think there was a church at Newcastle on Clun at that time but the LDS does not have any records. Tom _________________________________________________________________ Access your email online and on the go with Windows Live Hotmail. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_access_112008

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ELLinSpain Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6600.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello do you have any christian names? rough dob's? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thank you Sarah for this link and the information. I am not sure if the William Cox referred to is mine, but it something for me to look into. Kind regards, Linda

Thank you for this link John, I have found it very informative. Kind regards, Linda

Hi Linda Madeley Wood is part of Madeley, and Broseley Wood is part of Broseley. As the names suggest, they are the wooded areas on the north and south banks of the Severn Gorge respectively. At http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?Madeley/Madeley.shtml you will find a photo of the workhouse built at Brockholes in 1796-7. It was replaced by a larger building in 1868 and converted into houses. It is now known as 12 - 14 Belmont Road, Ironbridge. If you put that address into Google Maps you will find exactly where Brockholes is, although the name no longer appears on maps. John Message: 1 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:37:22 +0000 From: "saira Horner" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] (no subject) To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Have you seen this link? http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~crippen/a2a.htm Particularly this section... * Collection from the Broseley Office of Messrs. Cooper and Co., Solicitors [1681/102 - 1681/154] [1544-1995] - MADELEY DEEDS* *Hodgkiss and Hotchkiss family* *FILE - Copy will of William Cox of Madeley - ref. 1681/152/27 - date: 26 Dec 1770 [from Scope and Content] Wife - Hannah - the house in which he lives in Madeley Wood with the garden, the house in Madeley Wood adjoining the house of William Crippin (Beriah Baugh); 2 houses at the Brockholes, Madeley Wood (Gabriel Dixon, Edward Plimmer). [from Scope and Content] Samuel to pay the testator's daughter Elizabeth Crippin ?5. FILE - William Crippin not to require any acknowledgment of Christopher Cox for the gable end between them. - ref. 1681/152/28 - date: 27 Jul 1772* There are lots of references to Madeley Wood on Google - and it seems that Brockholes is/was very close by (although not in Yorkshire) Saira :o) 2008/11/19 Linda Marsh <[email protected]> > Hello to All, > > I am new to the list after being directed following a query I have > regarding Brockholes. > > My Cox ancestors lived in Madeley / Broseley area. At least two of the > children were born in Brockholes. They are then found in King Street, > Madeley. Another child was born in Madeley Wood and another born in > Broseley Wood. > > William Cox was a Cooper and his wife Emma (nee Smith) lived in the area > until 1871 when William died in Bicton Heath Assylm and Emma took her family > and moved to Brierley Hill. Emma's father was David Smith a Farm Bailiff > and the Smith family apart from Thomas (who had already moved to Brierley > Hill) stayed in the area. > > I would like to know where Brockholes and Madeley Wood were / are, and from > anyone else researching these families. > > Kind regards, > > Linda > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ To contact the ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 332 *************************************************** -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 5.6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 11111 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: purpleronnie34 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6600/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hi, im looking for any hadaways from the priory shrewsbury or wellington areas, thanks.ron hadaway Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Have you seen this link? http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~crippen/a2a.htm Particularly this section... * Collection from the Broseley Office of Messrs. Cooper and Co., Solicitors [1681/102 - 1681/154] [1544-1995] - MADELEY DEEDS* *Hodgkiss and Hotchkiss family* *FILE - Copy will of William Cox of Madeley - ref. 1681/152/27 - date: 26 Dec 1770 [from Scope and Content] Wife - Hannah - the house in which he lives in Madeley Wood with the garden, the house in Madeley Wood adjoining the house of William Crippin (Beriah Baugh); 2 houses at the Brockholes, Madeley Wood (Gabriel Dixon, Edward Plimmer). [from Scope and Content] Samuel to pay the testator's daughter Elizabeth Crippin £5. FILE - William Crippin not to require any acknowledgment of Christopher Cox for the gable end between them. - ref. 1681/152/28 - date: 27 Jul 1772* There are lots of references to Madeley Wood on Google - and it seems that Brockholes is/was very close by (although not in Yorkshire) Saira :o) 2008/11/19 Linda Marsh <[email protected]> > Hello to All, > > I am new to the list after being directed following a query I have > regarding Brockholes. > > My Cox ancestors lived in Madeley / Broseley area. At least two of the > children were born in Brockholes. They are then found in King Street, > Madeley. Another child was born in Madeley Wood and another born in > Broseley Wood. > > William Cox was a Cooper and his wife Emma (nee Smith) lived in the area > until 1871 when William died in Bicton Heath Assylm and Emma took her family > and moved to Brierley Hill. Emma's father was David Smith a Farm Bailiff > and the Smith family apart from Thomas (who had already moved to Brierley > Hill) stayed in the area. > > I would like to know where Brockholes and Madeley Wood were / are, and from > anyone else researching these families. > > Kind regards, > > Linda > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Well Nick, So far, I can tell you that in the 1851 census, Elizabeth Griffin (28) was living with her brother, in the Tamworth Reg. Dist, Lichfield: - William GRIFFIN, H, M, 30, Waggoner, b. STS, Hints. Elizabeth GRIFFIN, Sister, S, 28, At Home, b. STS, Hints. William GRIFFIN, Son, 10, Scholar, b. STS, Hints. John HUMPHESTON? Visitor, 11, Visitor, b. WKS, Birmingham. Mary Gran-Dau, 2 months, b. STS, Tamworth. Sarah JOHNSON, Lodger, Wid, 56, Pauper, b. STS.Wiggington. Joseph GRIFFIN, Son, S, 40, Ag. Lab, b. STS, Hints. [Yes it says 40] Thomas BOND,Lodger, S, 25, Waggoner, b. WKS, Middleton. An odd family then....more than 'meets the eye' .....? Pen ----- Original Message Follows ----- From: Nick Griffin <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [ENG-SHROP] Shrewsbury Assizes Elizabeth GRIFFIN Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:58:55 +0000 > Hi Listers, > > Wonder if anyone out there can help me with a little > information to point me in the right direction. > > i have recently found that my great great great Aunt was > sentenced to life at Shrewsbury Assizes in 1861(probably > March) for the crime of Murder (drowning a 9 month old > child). The sentence was commuted to 20 years PS and she > was released from Knaphill Prison in 1873 where she was > incarcerated with Constance Kent as an historical aside. > > I want to find out if the child was hers and more details > of the crime and am not sure where to look. I have some > details of the plea for clemency and petitions for her > release from the National Archives but that gives little > away about the actual crime and circumstances. Would > there be records of the trial? Which would be best > newspaper to see if there are any reports? > > And on the off chance she's in anyone else's list her name > is Elizabeth Griffin b. c1823 Hints Staffordshire. > > Fingers cross, all help and advice greatly rec'd!! > > Many thanks > > Nick > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already > been answered. Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message

Various newspaper reports sent to Nick off list The child was her own (she threw him in the river) and although sentenced to Death, this was commuted to life. Debbie Nick Griffin wrote: > Hi Listers, > > Wonder if anyone out there can help me with a little information to > point me in the right direction. > > i have recently found that my great great great Aunt was sentenced to > life at Shrewsbury Assizes in 1861(probably March) for the crime of > Murder (drowning a 9 month old child). The sentence was commuted to > 20 years PS and she was released from Knaphill Prison in 1873 where > she was incarcerated with Constance Kent as an historical aside. > > I want to find out if the child was hers and more details of the > crime and am not sure where to look. I have some details of the plea > for clemency and petitions for her release from the National Archives > but that gives little away about the actual crime and circumstances. > Would there be records of the trial? Which would be best newspaper to > see if there are any reports? > > And on the off chance she's in anyone else's list her name is > Elizabeth Griffin b. c1823 Hints Staffordshire. > > Fingers cross, all help and advice greatly rec'd!! > > Many thanks > > Nick > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Listers, Wonder if anyone out there can help me with a little information to point me in the right direction. i have recently found that my great great great Aunt was sentenced to life at Shrewsbury Assizes in 1861(probably March) for the crime of Murder (drowning a 9 month old child). The sentence was commuted to 20 years PS and she was released from Knaphill Prison in 1873 where she was incarcerated with Constance Kent as an historical aside. I want to find out if the child was hers and more details of the crime and am not sure where to look. I have some details of the plea for clemency and petitions for her release from the National Archives but that gives little away about the actual crime and circumstances. Would there be records of the trial? Which would be best newspaper to see if there are any reports? And on the off chance she's in anyone else's list her name is Elizabeth Griffin b. c1823 Hints Staffordshire. Fingers cross, all help and advice greatly rec'd!! Many thanks Nick

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: geoff1080 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6599/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for descendants or anyone tracing the decendants of Benjamin Cowper of Ruyton born approx 1813. His sons were Charles(apx 1843), James(apx 1845), Jabez(apx 1846) and Levi(apx 1849). Levi's sons were Levi(apx1878), Benjamin(apx 1884), Charles Frederick(apx 1891) and Jabez(apx 1900/1901). I am the great grandson of Charles (1843) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I'm looking into the PAYNE family of Pentreheylin and found a Pentreheylin Hall about 1.8 km south of Maesbrook in Kinnerley parish. But then I found another Pentreheylin Hall at almost the exact latitude but about 5 km west (and about 1 km west of Llandysilio (all of this on the Ordnance Survey's Get-a-map). Both are very close to the Vyrnwy river. To complicate things further, there's another Pentreheyling (with final "g") which is the place that comes up if you use the Get-a-map search function; it is that Shropshire locality where you need to cross into Wales to reach any other place in England (from Wikipedia). Now I wonder if there are any other Pentreheylin Halls, which one was the Payne's and which one belonged to the old Heylin family. Any information would be highly appreciated. Thank you, Alejandro Milberg Boston, Mass. **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001)