This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LindaThank2005 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6603.6/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do yu have the death cert. for George BAGLEY? The family was intact through 1901 census so you might find a bit more about George and Elizabeth by death certs....... Perhaps you are already in possession of these; I was wondering if George was married under another surname.......and Elizabeth also; perhaps a child born previous to wedlock might have lead to such a thing. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LindaThank2005 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6603.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looks like this BAGLEY family is the one from Grimsbury; 1841 George and Mary, Northamtonshire, Warkworthy. Dist 22. Same place in 1851. It's a farming area; of HInges Sutton Hundred/Liberty and is included in the Borough of Banbury. In general the 22nd Dist. of this area included Nethercote and Grimsbury Hamlets. I wonder if your DYTOR family was close to this Borough ........ Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

My PACE and related ancestry was from PREES HIGH ERCALL WROCKWARDINE WELLINGTON SHIFNAL areas and is connected to the following family surnames: ARCH - BARNETT - BAUGH - CHIDLOW - CULLWICK - FURBER - GOODE-ARCH-PACE - GOODE - GREGORY - GROOM - HASSALL - HAYNES - ICKE - JAMES - LEE - MADDOX - NICHOLS - PACE-Early-Records - PACE EGGING - PALMER - PASCAL - PEDLEY - PICKEN - ROBERTS - SHUKER - SLINN - SUMNER - TANDY-PACE - TURNER-PACE - TURNER-records - TURNER of Wellington - WARD - WHITEHOUSE - WRIGHT If you have an interest in any of these click on http://www.pacefamilyhistory.info/records/index.htm to see what you can use and maybe we're related through the vast number of inter-marriages. I have a special interest in our ancestors that migrated from the Midlands to colonial shores. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you all, wherever you are. Gord Pace in Ontario

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LindaThank2005 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6603.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking at a soundex spelling of DITOR the spelling you prefer as your line being DYTOR is quite interesting in Shropshire; marriages in Wem and one links to the GOUGH family which has records in the St. Alkmonds Parish records and also connected to the ministry. Wem is an area I have had to study for my own Shropshire research and the people do spill over into Wales, Ellesmere, Chester, and Stafford areas quite a bit......... Keep looking and checking those previous census records for a possible Elizabeth and then follow the neighbors........might work out to your advantage Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LindaThank2005 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6603.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It's a lonk shot, but you might try an Elizabeth GODWIN/GOODWIN as a widow who might have been your Elizabth. One George GODWIN/GOODWIN married and died in Stafford between 1857 spring and winter. I saw a BAGGLY soundex George and an Elizabeth GOODWIM married around time of your search. Again, a long shot; that birth certificate might give a good indication of something also. Depending on the home locale of your Elizabeth you may be looking in Wales for a marriage previous to your BAGLEY. Females and males married rather young sometimes back then....... Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LindaThank2005 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6603.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Soundex for Clement: using all and all/March 1858 thru March 1860 under Births: One Clement George BAGLEY born Dec 1859 quarter, Bromsgrove Dist. vol 6c page 410...... Bromsgrove spans the boundaries of the counties of Hereford and Worcester, Shropshire, Staffordshire and Worcestershire As was given before by the other respondant, this might be a place to look...... Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LindaThank2005 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6603.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am wondering if you have tried the free web site for Births, Deaths, and Marriages on the internet for this search? The options are variable and if names have been miss-spelled you still can have good luck by using some ingenuity in the entry boxes. including no surname but just a first name with the restrictions of one quarter at a time or something else........... The Google Search will get you to the site and so will the Ancestry.com as it is a link in the resources for England and Great Britain. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Listers, Its been a long time since I sent my Shropshire rellies. TUNKS JARMAN WILKES LLOYD SHUTT Georgina Goodby Fisher [email protected] formerly from Sutton Coldfield now in Orange, California 6 miles east of Disneyland _www.goodbytree.org_ (http://www.goodbytree.org/) Goons member #418 One Name Study Goodby **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MichaelJHulme Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6603.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Mavis You seem to have a problem here. There is no trace of your marriage on the FreeBMD web site at http://freebmd.rootsweb.com and as they have 100% coverage for the period you are interested in that presents a difficulty. Maybe they didn't get married or just possibly it was never recorded or there is some other strange reason why it doesn't show up. Have you got their names from the birth certificate of a child? If not I think you should do that as your next step. Mike _____________________________ Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi List, are we still doing a Christmas Roll Call? You never know there may be a Christmas Gift on one for you...... Here's mine - a very short one! BEVINGTON and variations Staffs/Worcs/Shrops/Yorks Merry Xmas Sandra

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ladysparky41 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6604/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Fanny Maud Hawkins is my great grandmother she was born in Lilleshall Shropshire England to Margaretta Hawkins. She married Alfred Clayton in Preston Lancashire England December 1911. She was a millner for the swanky folk back in the day. She immigrated to Canada aboard the Duchess of York August 22nd 1930 with her son George (my grandfather). I have found that ancestry makes alot of transcript errors as they have her mother named as a "Huskin" and her immigration records show her as being 44 in 1930 which would make her birth year around 1886 ancestry has it listed as 1883. Anyways what I am trying to find is information on the 1901 census of England. I hope that someone can help me out in this regard. Thank You Kindly Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mavisbrown304 Surnames: Dytor, Bagley Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6603/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Can anyone help me with a marriage lookup in High Ercall, Poynton or Tong. I am searching for the marriage of Elizabeth Dytor to George Bagley around 1856-59. Elizabeth Dytor was born High Ercall 1838 and is on the 1841 and 1851 living with parents at Poynton. George Bagley was christened 1834, Banbury District, Northants. George and Elizabeth are on the 1861, with son Clement aged 1, living at Beighterton near Weston under Lizard. An added twist to the tale is that son Clement was born October 1859 in the sub-district of Tardebrigg, Bromsgrove, Worcs. Also I have found Dytor spelled variously as Dyter, Diter and Dylor! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ashauglum Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6586.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry I don't know if I had responded to your message. However this is not the family that I am looking for. Thanks again. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello, Just a reminder that I have not been able to find out where my ancestors married. Richard LEWIS was from Shropshire and Elizabeth TROUGHTON was from Cheshire, but they seem to have had all 6 children in Lancashire (Liverpool). Did they meet and marry there? Or, did they meet in Cheshire and marry there? Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) FYI: This is part of my posting from last summer: This is part of one of my postings on the LEWIS List from a few months ago: What someone told me is that they had found my LEWIS ancestors in the 1841 census for Liverpool, England -- under the name, LOWIS. The censis record showed that Richard and Elizabeth LEWIS had 2 daughters that I didn't know about. I only knew about the 4 sons mentioned in the 1851 census. For the moment, I will just summarize what I know about this family: Richard LEWIS was born in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England, in ~1803, and he was a tailor (unknown parents; there are possibilities) Elizabeth TROUGHTON was born in Heswall, Cheshire, England, in ~1806 They might have married in 1825 or 1826 in Liverpool, Lancashire, England. They had a daughter, Ann LEWIS ~1827 in Liverpool They had a daughter, Sarah LEWIS ~1828 in Liverpool They had a son, William LEWIS in 1832 in Liverpool They had a son, John LEWIS in 1836 in Liverpool They had a son, Charles LEWIS in 1841 in Liverpool (prob. died young) They had a son, Henry LEWIS in 1843 in Liverpool They had a son, Richard LEWIS in 1848 in Liverpool Since the daughters are not mentioned in the 1851 census, they had probably married by then. (I don't know why my copy/pasting shows up in larger text.) (My ancestor is John LEWIS who married Isabella BURROWS in Liverpool. They seem to have had only one child, a son, John "Stanley" LEWIS, who grew up to become my great-grandfather.) (Stanley became a "Child Migrant" and was shipped to Nova Scotia. He married another Child Migrant there, and then came down to Massachusetts to raise their 13 children.)

I am in the process of transcribing Bishop's Castle PR and found the following: Page 23 Entry 177 21 March 1846 Elizabeth Daughter of John & Emma Richards Bishops Castle Tailor W M Rowland Vicar Page 24 Entry 189 10 May 1846 Elizabeth Daughter of John & Emma Richards Bishops Castle Tailor W M Rowland Vicar So it appears that marriages are not the only duplicates. Jim Hill -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 10:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] Married in two churches on the same date? OR Married in two p... I do have one case in my family where they were married by Lic. in two places and it is recorded in the register "by Lic." so it isn't always by Banns when they have two marriages. Perhaps they were looking for double the gifts. When the relatives can't get to the one wedding, have two. Renee **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000 010) REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. Threaded Archives at - http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives Searchable Archives at - http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Earlier one will be Banns....often they were entered in the Marriage register eapecially if a Banns register was not maintained. As banns were read in the parish of residence of both groom & bride there are a lot of "double" entries for this. Clue is usually if the two dates are within 3 weeks of each other (Banns were read thrice on consecutive Sundays) -------- Original Message -------- > Dear All > > I've a similar issue, as according to the IGI my gx5 grandparents seem to > have married twice on successive weeks in two separate parishes, details as > below: > > IGI Batch: M008661 > Marriages: JOHN HAY Male > Spouse: WINIFRED PARSONS > Marriage: 21 JAN 1759 Stanton Lacy, Shropshire, England > > IGI Batch: M016141 > Marriages: JOHN HAY Male > Spouse: WINIFRED PARSONS Family > Marriage: 14 FEB 1759 Burford > > Apparently married at both Stanton Lacy 21 Jan 1759 AND Burford 14 Feb 1759. > > > Could the earlier entry for Stanton Lacy relate to banns? > > I recognise that I need to check to the registers in printed form or on > microfiche at the Shropshire Archives, when I can next visit. > > However would be interested in anyone's thoughts on this. > > Best wishes > > Martin Hughes > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 11 November 2008 23:46 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ENG-SHROP] Married in two churches on the same date? > > I was surprised to see a marriage appear in two different > churches/parishes. > > >From the Kinnerley parish register, p.58 of the printed version: > > 29 June 1701, Mr. John Payne, of Argoed, and Eliz: Jones, of Llansanfried > (sic). > > >From the St. Martin parish register, p. 134 of the printed version: > > 29 June 1701, Mr. John Payne of the Argot and Mrs. Elizabeth Jones of loer > (sic) Ridge. > > Any ideas to explain this? They are certainly the same people. > > Thank you, > > Alejandro Milberg > Boston, Mass. > > **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all > other > Holiday needs. Search Now. > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=htt > p://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from > -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.17/1844 - Release Date: 11/12/2008 > 20:58 > > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) > Database version: 5.11331 > http://www.pctools.com/uk/internet-security/ > > E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11331 http://www.pctools.com/uk/internet-security/

Dear All I've a similar issue, as according to the IGI my gx5 grandparents seem to have married twice on successive weeks in two separate parishes, details as below: IGI Batch: M008661 Marriages: JOHN HAY Male Spouse: WINIFRED PARSONS Marriage: 21 JAN 1759 Stanton Lacy, Shropshire, England IGI Batch: M016141 Marriages: JOHN HAY Male Spouse: WINIFRED PARSONS Family Marriage: 14 FEB 1759 Burford Apparently married at both Stanton Lacy 21 Jan 1759 AND Burford 14 Feb 1759. Could the earlier entry for Stanton Lacy relate to banns? I recognise that I need to check to the registers in printed form or on microfiche at the Shropshire Archives, when I can next visit. However would be interested in anyone's thoughts on this. Best wishes Martin Hughes -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 11 November 2008 23:46 To: [email protected] Subject: [ENG-SHROP] Married in two churches on the same date? I was surprised to see a marriage appear in two different churches/parishes. >From the Kinnerley parish register, p.58 of the printed version: 29 June 1701, Mr. John Payne, of Argoed, and Eliz: Jones, of Llansanfried (sic). >From the St. Martin parish register, p. 134 of the printed version: 29 June 1701, Mr. John Payne of the Argot and Mrs. Elizabeth Jones of loer (sic) Ridge. Any ideas to explain this? They are certainly the same people. Thank you, Alejandro Milberg Boston, Mass. **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=htt p://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.17/1844 - Release Date: 11/12/2008 20:58

I do have one case in my family where they were married by Lic. in two places and it is recorded in the register "by Lic." so it isn't always by Banns when they have two marriages. Perhaps they were looking for double the gifts. When the relatives can't get to the one wedding, have two. Renee **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)

Hello Barbara and Linda When using the Historical Directories web site http://www.historicaldirectories.org I prefer to use the Keyword option from the front page. Click on the 'Find by Keywords' button then at the next screen you can select Shropshire (or elsewhere) in the top drop down list. I would then just enter your own Keyword(s) in the appropriate box, leaving Decade and Key Name as 'All'. Then just click the 'Find Directories' button and see what comes up. You can even search for John Jones and Jones, John by using the 'Within Operator' in the form John w/2 Jones where you are asking the system to find Jones and John within two words of each other because you never know which way round they are going to be written. See the Technical FAQ's http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/howto/howto7.asp#detailed for more information. When the list of Directories comes up on screen click on the word 'Directory' alongside whichever one(s) interest you and then I usually click on the 'Next Hit' button to go from one hit to the next. Mike Shropshire, UK ______________________________________________________ Barbara Petura wrote: > Hello Wendy, > You can find the Historical Directories online free here: > http://www.historicaldirectories.org/ > > You can start looking for the 11 directories for Shropshire by clicking on Shropshire on the map on this Web page: http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/findbylocation.asp > > I have been able to find family information by browsing the relevant areas. Would someone be willing to explain the best techniques they've found for using the search function? > > Thank you. > Barbara Bradley Petura > > > > Message Board Post: > > Hello Linda, > Thank you very much for the information. I'm not sure where to find the Historical Directories. I do have copies of George's military records retrieved by a very helpful Ancestry.co.uk member in London. I know he enlisted in Manchester in 1829. I believe him to be educated as he signed (in very nice penmanship) the enlistment papers. As far as trades go, most of the Griffiths' I've come across were general labourers. > > Let me know how I can contact you. > Wendy > > > > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hello Linda I see that you have films, and I wondered if I could ask you a favour - do you do look-ups, please? For more than 30 years I have been looking for a baptism for my gggggrandfather John SANDS. He was married at Ellesmere on 6 June 1730. I have a copy of his marriage licence in which his bride's surname is WARD but when I looked on a film many years ago it appears in the register as either HEWARD or HOWARD (the second letter is indistinct). Both are described as "of Whitchurch". John was described as a Malster. He was buried at Prees 26 July 1798 "age 92". The IGI shows 8 baptisms for children of John SANDS at Whitchurch 1708 - 1725 but when I saw the originals there is one missed off the IGI, "5 July 1703 Martha, bastard daughter of John SANDS and Mary LEA of Whitchurch". My John would fit in the gap. However I can't find a marriage for John senior. Perhaps if I found one it would lead to the baptism. I suspect that this John might be the John, son of John SANDES, baptised at Ellesmere 16 July 1681. My hypothesis which I have so far been unsuccessful in either proving or disproving is that John born c 1706 is the grandson of John who had 13 children baptised at Ellesmere 1680 - 1698. A deed dated 24 June 1700 refers to "a burgage or dwelling house called the sign of the Red Lyon, Elismer, late in tenure of William SWANWICKE and John SANDS" I believe that he is the John SANDS buried at Ellesmere 6 May 1726. His widow Judith was buried there 2 January 1738 so possibly John born c 1706 was living with his grandmother, and possibly involved in the family business. I have a copy of a settlement examination showing that he moved to Prees in 1737 and I know from other sources that he was involved in the licensed trade there. If you are able to look at your films for the relevant dates I should be most grateful. I recall that the quality of the Ellesmere ones is poor, and a fresh eye might pick up something that I missed. Please contact me off list if you need further information. Many thanks John Sands Message: 8 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:40:21 -0000 From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] George Edward Griffiths b. 1806 Shropshire To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LindaThank2005 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.sal.general/6602.7/m b.ashx Message Board Post: If you can post a personal e-mail we can do better by private mail. I would like to see if I can put your links back enough to get into the films I have for Ellesmere/Shropshire Church records. This birth circa is the same as my VENALBES/LEA lines in same area and there is crossover in my records with some of the surnames in these lists of marriages. [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 5.7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 11129 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message