Hello all. I am looking for a bap record for Mary Ann Legh(spelling taken from lds site) could be Leigh or Legg she was born abt 1802 in Broseley (according to 1841 census), wondered if anyone could help. Thankyou Sandra Harper

Leland Robinson wrote: > All I know about my great-great grandparents on my father's paternal line are their names -- Richard ROBINSON and Mary PALMER. > Thank you so much. > > Sincerely, > Leland W. Robinson > Frederick, Maryland, USA Leland, This looks rather interesting. A few things we seem to have in common but the dates may be too far removed. My 7X great grandmother was a MARGARET PALMER Christened 1631 at Wellington. Her PALMER family moved from WELLINGTON to HIGH ERCALL (Ercall Magna) 1631-1632 according to the Christenings I've found and recorded. MARGARET married 1653 to JOSEPH PACE at HIGH ERCALL Their 1st child ANN PACE Chr. Nov 02 1655 at Rodington. Their 2nd child JOHN PACE Chr. 22 Sept. 1665 Wrockwardine. Their 3rd child GEORGE PACE Chr. 28 May Prees. my 6X great grandfather (m 1st Cotterell; m 2nd Picken) JOHN PACE Chr. 1665 is now thought to have emigrated to colonial Virginia; has family Chr. records in Christ Church, Middlesex Co. Virginia and much ongoing PACE and related surname history in the US - to this day in time. One of these related surnames is ROBINSON. The PACE-ROBINSON researcher lives in Pheonix, Maryland, USA. Some of the related surnames of colonial Virginia, later Kentucky, Missouri, and beyond, remain the same surnames, some of which are the same surnames in the same Shropshire parishes as my PACE ancestry. You mention: Thomas & Emma were married 1873 at Encall Magna (probably Ercall Magna) and living, at the time, at Rodington, parish of Wellington. The time difference between seems to be 200 years between your records and mine. Do you think there's any possibility of a connection? Gord Pace, webmaster, Pace Society of America http://www.pacesociety.org

Dear Leland, There are several (although member submitted) records in the IGI which boil down to this: - 1815 [C] 17 Sept, Hopesay, Sal: Richard Robinson, mother: Martha Robinson (unmarried); father: Francis Price. 1844 [M] 12 Feb, Bishop's Castle, Sal, between Richard Robinson and Mary Palmer. 1872 [Burial] 20 April, Broome, Hopesay: Richard Robinson. The submissions are from LDS films 4557737; 456992; and (445907 ref. No.40223). On slightly firmer ground are these: - 1815 [C] 17 Sept, Hopesay, Sal: Richard Robinson, mother: Martha Robinson. [Bn.C016052] 1820 [C] 16 Jan, Hopesay, Sal: Mary Robinson, mother: Martha Robinson. [Bn.C016052] 1800 [C] 26 Jan, Hopesay, Sal: Martha Robinson, parents Thomas and Sarah. [Bn.P016051] The same Martha has 8 brothers and sisters in batch number P016051. A member submitted variation gives: - 1800 [C] 26 Jan, Hopesay, Sal: Martha Robinson, parents Thomas Robinson and Sarah Davies. 1821 [M] 4 June; between Martha Robinson and Francis Price. [Film 456663] "All I know about my great-great grandparents on my father's paternal line are their names -- Richard ROBINSON and Mary PALMER. I know a reasonable amount about Richard's son (my great grandfather) Thomas ROBINSON and his wife Emma LEEKE, and I was hoping that perhaps someone could give me some info about Richard and Mary by tracing them back through Thomas and Emma, or might be able to tell me how I can trace them back. I've not found anything online regarding Richard and Mary. Thomas ROBINSON was born 11 May 1844 at the Respass House, parish of Clun, county of Salop (Shropshire). His wife Emma LEEKE was born 26 Nov 1848 at the Brook House, parish of Hyssington, county of Salop (Shropshire). Emma's parents were Benjamin LEEKE, born 25 Dec 1809 in the same place as his daughter Emma, and Benjamin's wife Mary LLOYD was born 11 Feb 1814 (location unknown). Thomas and Emma married 4 Oct 1873 at the parish church, parish of Ercall Magna, Salop (Shropshire). At the time they were living in Rodington, parish of Wellington, county of Salop (Shropshire)." Regards, Penny

All I know about my great-great grandparents on my father's paternal line are their names -- Richard ROBINSON and Mary PALMER. I know a reasonable amount about Richard's son (my great grandfather) Thomas ROBINSON and his wife Emma LEEKE, and I was hoping that perhaps someone could give me some info about Richard and Mary by tracing them back through Thomas and Emma, or might be able to tell me how I can trace them back. I've not found anything online regarding Richard and Mary. Thomas ROBINSON was born 11 May 1844 at the Respass House, parish of Clun, county of Salop (Shropshire). His wife Emma LEEKE was born 26 Nov 1848 at the Brook House, parish of Hyssington, county of Salop (Shropshire). Emma's parents were Benjamin LEEKE, born 25 Dec 1809 in the same place as his daughter Emma, and Benjamin's wife Mary LLOYD was born 11 Feb 1814 (location unknown). Thomas and Emma married 4 Oct 1873 at the parish church, parish of Encall Magna, Salop (Shropshire). At the time they were living in Rodington, parish of Wellington, county of Salop (Shropshire). I've run into a brick wall with Richard ROBINSON and Mary PALMER. I would greatly appreciate any information that might help me learn more about Richard and Mary, and thus might enable me to trace this line of my ancestry further back. Thank you so much. Sincerely, Leland W. Robinson Frederick, Maryland, USA

At 08:38 AM 17/01/2010, Maree wrote: >Hello from New ZealandCan anyone help us here please with the >following family ...?? >Mary Jane HUGHES B 1839 Oswestry Shropshire >d/o John HUGHES and Rebecca DEVERALL There is a Mary Jane Hughes shown to be born June Qtr 1839, Oswestry, but unfortunately there is also a death shown for (possibly) the same child also within the June Qtr 1839, Oswestry. Regards Graham Melbourne Oz

Hello Maree Can you say what help you are looking for. You say Mary Jane HUGHES was born 1839 Oswestry, Shropshire so presumably you have found her in at least one census and maybe on FreeBMD, so what are you looking for next? Mike Shropshire, UK ______________________________________________________ Maree wrote: > Hello from New Zealand > > Can anyone help us here please with the following family ...?? > > Mary Jane HUGHES B 1839 Oswestry Shropshire > > d/o John HUGHES and Rebecca DEVERALL > > Kind regards from Maree S. Gordon, Matamata, New Zealand > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hello from New Zealand Can anyone help us here please with the following family ...?? Mary Jane HUGHES B 1839 Oswestry Shropshire d/o John HUGHES and Rebecca DEVERALL Kind regards from Maree S. Gordon, Matamata, New Zealand

Hi List I have recently looked at Hopesay parish records at the LDS Centre. On the film it begins with page x which is signed off as a introduction note by WGD Fletcher in Jan 1920 [he was then the vicar of Oxon]. Then the next page is the start of the parish records bmb. On the internet I found an index to the Hopesay parish records and noted down the pages that the surname [Awnsham] appeared on, so I could check the pages on the film. The index listed that the surname was mention on page v and viii of the introduction. These are missing from the film. Can anyone help me please with the information on these pages? The index states RD [Richard Awnsham on page v] and Ann and Rd on page viii. Richard Awnsham was the rector of the parish and Ann was his wife. Richard was in Hopesay during the civil war when he lost the parish and then was restored when Charles was back in charge. Karen

Hello Karen Page v includes:- A silver flagon (Georgian) with this inscription: "For the use of the Parish of Hopesay, the gift of Mr Richard ANNSHAM, 1725." Under a list of Incumbents of Hopesay beginning 1278 on page vi there appears on page viii:- 1623 Dec 9 - Richard AWNSHAM ... plus a paragraph of text, ending with Mrs Ann AWNSHAM, widow, was buried 11 May 1679. I will photograph the two pages from the microfiche viewer and email them direct to you. Mike ______________________________ Karen Hodges wrote: > Hi List > > I have recently looked at Hopesay parish records at the LDS Centre. On > the film it begins with page x which is signed off as a introduction > note by WGD Fletcher in Jan 1920 [he was then the vicar of Oxon]. Then > the next page is the start of the parish records bmb. > > On the internet I found an index to the Hopesay parish records and > noted down the pages that the surname [Awnsham] appeared on, so I > could check the pages on the film. The index listed that the surname > was mention on page v and viii of the introduction. These are missing > from the film. > > Can anyone help me please with the information on these pages? The > index states RD [Richard Awnsham on page v] and Ann and Rd on page > viii. > > Richard Awnsham was the rector of the parish and Ann was his wife. > Richard was in Hopesay during the civil war when he lost the parish > and then was restored when Charles was back in charge. > > Karen > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Dear Gwynne I remember you helping me on this back in 2004/5, I hadn't forgotten. I was still new to genealogy at the time, and the kindness was difficult to forget. Thanks for checking this and you really shoudn't have braved the elements last week, and looked but thank you so much for the trouble you went to. I would like to get to Bridgnorth at some point this year, I've made two unplanned fleeting visits in the past couple of years (en route elsewhere), but I didn't know the place well enough to know the location of the graveyards. It's a shame that there is no (obvious) headstone. I have ordered Sarah Ann BRYAN's death certificate (Richard's wife), which should arrive later this week. I don't know if it will deliver any other surprises, I will let you all know. Best wishes, Alison 2010/1/9 Gwynne Chadwick <gwynnechadwick@rafbridgnorth.org.uk>: > Hi again Alison, > > I think it was me in 2005 who provided you with the burial record of Richard > BRYAN, age stated as 72, so I felt obliged to try a resolve this query. > > I've checked the burial book entry - it says age 72. > I've checked the church register - it says age 72. > I've tried to check the age on any inscription on a headstone in the > cemetery. There wasn't one, unless it was hidden under several inches of > snow! > > Probably not relevant but I note that the Registrar who accepted the > amendment to the age, died the following year, aged 43. > > Regards, > Gwynne > www.rafbridgnorth.org.uk > > > > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It is 7 hours since I originally sent this message and it has not appeared in the archive so I am sending it a second time. ________________________________________________________ Hello Barbara You will be aware from the link you provided to the Wem Registration District that there are more than a dozen parishes in the District plus several Non-Conformist Churches. Even if you searched all these you still may not find the marriages if they took place in the Register Office rather than a church. Your only certain way of getting this information is to purchase copies of the marriage certificates which you can do online using the references you found on FreeBMD. However, having just looked at the references, it would appear that this might well have been a double marriage, that is, both couples at the same place on the same day as they both have the same reference number. You can probably save the cost of one of the certificates if you buy one to obtain the exact date and place and then post another message asking if anyone can look up the other. You need to purchase the certificate from the General Register Office in Southport, UK, not from a local register office. To do this go back into FreeBMD and look up the marriage you wish to purchase, then just below the entry(ies) you will find Has our search engine found the record you are seeking? Click here to learn what to do now. Click the word 'here' then scroll down the next page to the paragraph headed 'Obtaining a certificate from the GRO' and again click the word 'here'. This will take you to the GRO web site where you can place your order using a credit or debit card. You probably have to register with the site but that is simple enough. One final point, when you have a certificate and the exact date and place it might be worth thinking about the possibility of looking for a newspaper report especially if it was a double wedding. Mike Shropshire, UK ______________________________________________________ Barbara Petura wrote: > Hello, > Can anyone help me gain the added details on 2 two marriages records found in FreeBMD? I know the marriages were in Wem Registration District, Shropshire, but not in the Wem Church, Wem, as I have reviewed microfilm for that church. > > >> Benjamin Booth married Jane Ebrey >> Henry Ebrey married Sarah Booth >> > 2nd quarter 1866 ending June 1866 > Wem Registration District - Volume 6a Page 1383 > > I am looking for the exact date and place of the marriage, the parents or at least the father's of the 4 individuals, and any other details. > > I believe that Sarah was Benjamin's sister and Henry was Jane's cousin in these marriages, but want to confirm that. I am interested to see if it was a double marriage or occurred the same day. > > And I especially want to find Jane's father or parents. Her birth year ranges from 1837 to 1855 and several birth places are shown in her own records, so I have not been able to find her with her parents in the 1841 Census. By 1851 she was in service with relatives. > > Here is the Wem Registration District: > http://ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/Reg/districts/wem.html > > My hunch is that the marriage occurred in Prees, where the Ebrey family had deep roots, or possibly Ightfield where there were relatives. > > Thank you in advance for any assistance. > > Barbara Bradley Petura, > Washington, USA

Hello Sandra If you go to the International Genealogical Index on the Family Search web site at http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true then enter your names into the First name and Last Name boxes, select Birth/Christening for the Event, enter 1811 for the year, plus/minus 10 years, select British Isles for the Region, then England and Shropshire. Click Search and you will probably only find one entry in 1803 at Hope Bagot which is on the south west slopes of the Clee Hill (NOTE the spelling is Clee not Clay). If you click on the name in the list it will bring up the Individual Record but it is important to look under the heading Messages: In this case it states that it is an 'Extracted' record so it should be correct but if it says it is a 'User Submitted' entry it should be treated with a great deal of caution. Mike Shropshire, UK ______________________________________________________ sandra harper wrote: > Hello All. Can anyone help me with the baptism and/or Parents of Susannah > Fennell, born around1811 in Clay Hills Shropshire. Any info would be > appreciated. Thanks Sandra Harper > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hello Barbara You will be aware from the link you provided to the Wem Registration District that there are more than a dozen parishes in the District plus several Non-Conformist Churches. Even if you searched all these you still may not find the marriages if they took place in the Register Office rather than a church. Your only certain way of getting this information is to purchase copies of the marriage certificates which you can do online using the references you found on FreeBMD. However, having just looked at the references, it would appear that this might well have been a double marriage, that is, both couples at the same place on the same day as they both have the same reference number. You can probably save the cost of one of the certificates if you buy one to obtain the exact date and place and then post another message asking if anyone can look up the other. You need to purchase the certificate from the General Register Office in Southport, UK, not from a local register office. To do this go back into FreeBMD and look up the marriage you wish to purchase, then just below the entry(ies) you will find Has our search engine found the record you are seeking? Click here to learn what to do now. Click the word 'here' then scroll down the next page to the paragraph headed 'Obtaining a certificate from the GRO' and again click the word 'here'. This will take you to the GRO web site where you can place your order using a credit or debit card. You probably have to register with the site but that is simple enough. One final point, when you have a certificate and the exact date and place it might be worth thinking about the possibility of looking for a newspaper report especially if it was a double wedding. Mike Shropshire, UK ______________________________________________________ Barbara Petura wrote: > Hello, > Can anyone help me gain the added details on 2 two marriages records found in FreeBMD? I know the marriages were in Wem Registration District, Shropshire, but not in the Wem Church, Wem, as I have reviewed microfilm for that church. > > >> Benjamin Booth married Jane Ebrey >> Henry Ebrey married Sarah Booth >> > 2nd quarter 1866 ending June 1866 > Wem Registration District - Volume 6a Page 1383 > > I am looking for the exact date and place of the marriage, the parents or at least the father's of the 4 individuals, and any other details. > > I believe that Sarah was Benjamin's sister and Henry was Jane's cousin in these marriages, but want to confirm that. I am interested to see if it was a double marriage or occurred the same day. > > And I especially want to find Jane's father or parents. Her birth year ranges from 1837 to 1855 and several birth places are shown in her own records, so I have not been able to find her with her parents in the 1841 Census. By 1851 she was in service with relatives. > > Here is the Wem Registration District: > http://ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/Reg/districts/wem.html > > My hunch is that the marriage occurred in Prees, where the Ebrey family had deep roots, or possibly Ightfield where there were relatives. > > Thank you in advance for any assistance. > > Barbara Bradley Petura, > Washington, USA > > > > > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hello All. Can anyone help me with the baptism and/or Parents of Susannah Fennell, born around1811 in Clay Hills Shropshire. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks Sandra Harper

Hello, Can anyone help me gain the added details on 2 two marriages records found in FreeBMD? I know the marriages were in Wem Registration District, Shropshire, but not in the Wem Church, Wem, as I have reviewed microfilm for that church. > Benjamin Booth married Jane Ebrey > Henry Ebrey married Sarah Booth 2nd quarter 1866 ending June 1866 Wem Registration District - Volume 6a Page 1383 I am looking for the exact date and place of the marriage, the parents or at least the father's of the 4 individuals, and any other details. I believe that Sarah was Benjamin's sister and Henry was Jane's cousin in these marriages, but want to confirm that. I am interested to see if it was a double marriage or occurred the same day. And I especially want to find Jane's father or parents. Her birth year ranges from 1837 to 1855 and several birth places are shown in her own records, so I have not been able to find her with her parents in the 1841 Census. By 1851 she was in service with relatives. Here is the Wem Registration District: http://ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/Reg/districts/wem.html My hunch is that the marriage occurred in Prees, where the Ebrey family had deep roots, or possibly Ightfield where there were relatives. Thank you in advance for any assistance. Barbara Bradley Petura, Washington, USA

Hello Mark Can you explain a bit more about the marriage because it doesn't seem to show up in the indexes. Where have you got your information from? Have you any idea when or where they married? Did they have any children, if so who and when? Have you found them in the census after marriage? In the end you may need to find the marriage in the indexes so you can buy the marriage certificate which will provide the brides maiden name. Mike Shropshire, UK ______________________________________________________ Mark Temple wrote: > Hi I'm Looking for information regarding my wife's 4x gt grandfather, > Ironstone miner, *Joseph Biddle* born in staffs, c. 1815. He married in 1845 > a *Susannah Jenks* from Lilleshall. Any suggestions appreciated regarding > the maiden name of *Matilda* who married their son, *Enoch Biddle* (born c. > 1841) at Wombridge ?. > Many Thanks Mark Temple > >

Hi again Alison, I think it was me in 2005 who provided you with the burial record of Richard BRYAN, age stated as 72, so I felt obliged to try a resolve this query. I've checked the burial book entry - it says age 72. I've checked the church register - it says age 72. I've tried to check the age on any inscription on a headstone in the cemetery. There wasn't one, unless it was hidden under several inches of snow! Probably not relevant but I note that the Registrar who accepted the amendment to the age, died the following year, aged 43. Regards, Gwynne www.rafbridgnorth.org.uk

Good thinking! Happy New Year everyone Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz A bit of a brrrrrrrr over there in GB, eh? At 07:26 PM 9/01/2010, Sherry wrote: >As I have said before: >1. Queries about mail which does not reach the list need to be >directed to me at eng-shropshire-plus-admin@rootsweb.com NOT to the >list in general.

Hi I'm Looking for information regarding my wife's 4x gt grandfather, Ironstone miner, *Joseph Biddle* born in staffs, c. 1815. He married in 1845 a *Susannah Jenks* from Lilleshall. Any suggestions appreciated regarding the maiden name of *Matilda* who married their son, *Enoch Biddle* (born c. 1841) at Wombridge ?. Many Thanks Mark Temple

Hi sherry Thanks for your very prompt reply. This is just to check that my mail is going through correctly. Mark 2010/1/9 Sherry LANDA <sherry.landa@wanadoo.fr> > Hello Mark, > > I have checked and you are subscribed so you should be able to send mail > from the same address as you used to send me mail. Are you sending to the > right place? The posting address is eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com I > suggest you try to send a message now and copy it to me here (at wanadoo) > then if it doesn't go through, I might be able to work out why! > > Best wishes > > Sherry > > > > > > Message du 09/01/10 13:33 > > De : "Mark Temple" > > A : eng-shropshire-plus-admin@rootsweb.com > > Copie à : > > Objet : access to email query > > > > > Hi Sherry > I seem to have lost my access / ability to upload mail to > eng-shropshire-plus is there any way i can restore my access. sorry to > trouble you if i am asking the wrong person. > Thanks Mark Temple > > >