At 09:41 AM 7/02/2010, you wrote: >My question is, what content is found on death records for the 1800s >for Shropshire, starting in 1837? Do they have birth and death dates >and places? Are the names of any relatives included? \Hi Barbara This is straight off the top of my head, so I may missing something, but a death certificate will give you the following: Where and when died Name and Surname Sex Age Occupation Cause of death Signature etc. and place of residence of the informant person When the death was registered Signature of the registrar. Parish burial records, in general, will give you the name of the person (if a child the name of the father - sometimes the mother), the place of residence (if in the country, generally a village or district), date, age, and who performed the service. I have probably saved hundreds, if not more, dollars by getting hold of the microfilms through the LDS folk at their family history library. For Ellesmere, for instance, I have quite a few hundred pages in A4 files of BMDs for little cost. Hope this helps. Graham Melbourne Oz

Charlie, While Americans have the "DAR", in the Canadians have the "United Empire Loyalists". Google has plenty of results for them. Also, many of the Loyalists claimed compensation from the British Government and the PRO in London has these records among the Treasury records. Hope this helps David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat & Charlie Can anyone on this forum tell me where in UK records I might find information on American Loyalists who fought for George III and died in the war in America? One of my g+uncles, who married into a Loyalist family, went to Canada after the war. His father-in-law and a brother-in-law were killed in the battle of Charleston, South Carolina. We know the father-in-laws name, but the son's name is not shown in records here we have seen. We have good information on the Canadian settlement, but the land petitions do not give a name for the deceased son. Any lead to a possible UK source, death list, etc, would be greatly appreciated. I can provide names & dates if needed. Charlie Weaver (descendant of the Shropshire WEAVERs) Winston-Salem, North Carolina

Thanks, David. Have been on the UE Loyalists site, and others. Have found good info on UEL, but that's all info after they got to Canada. My G+uncle, Anthony DOHERTY Jr (var sp) married Mary McCOOL in Orange County, North Carolina, in 1788. The McCOOL family were Loyalists (Tories??) and they went to Canada in 1794. Mary McCOOL's father, Archibald, and one of his sons (unnamed but perhaps George), were killed in the Battle of Charleston, South Carolina. I thought there might be records in UK about these Loyalists who died in that war. Archibald's widow, and Anthony DOHERTY jr, received land grants in Canada. Charlie David Armstrong wrote: > Charlie, > > While Americans have the "DAR", in the Canadians have the "United Empire > Loyalists". Google has plenty of results for them. > > Also, many of the Loyalists claimed compensation from the British Government > and the PRO in London has these records among the Treasury records. > > Hope this helps > > David Armstrong > Maylands, > Western Australia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Pat & Charlie > > Can anyone on this forum tell me where in UK records I might find > information on American Loyalists who fought for George III and died in the > war in America? One of my g+uncles, who married into a Loyalist family, > went to Canada after the war. His > father-in-law and a brother-in-law were killed in the battle of Charleston, > South Carolina. We know the father-in-laws > name, but the son's name is not shown in records here we have seen. We have > good information on the Canadian settlement, > but the land petitions do not give a name for the deceased son. Any lead to > a possible UK source, death list, etc, would > be greatly appreciated. I can provide names & dates if needed. > Charlie Weaver (descendant of the Shropshire WEAVERs) > Winston-Salem, North Carolina > > > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thank you very much, Graham. I have queried Olivetree, and many other sites, before, with no results. I'll keep digging. Charlie Graham Price wrote: At 12:06 PM 7/02/2010, you wrote: Can anyone on this forum tell me where in UK records I might find information on American Loyalists who fought for George III and died in the war in America? Charlie, this website might be of use to you. [1]<http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/loy/>[2]http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com /loy/ Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. Threaded Archives at - [3]http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives Searchable Archives at - [4]http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5]ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-re quest@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subjec t and the body of the message References 1. http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/loy/ 2. http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/loy/ 3. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives 4. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ 5. mailto:ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com

Can anyone on this forum tell me where in UK records I might find information on American Loyalists who fought for George III and died in the war in America? One of my g+uncles, who married into a Loyalist family, went to Canada after the war. His father-in-law and a brother-in-law were killed in the battle of Charleston, South Carolina. We know the father-in-laws name, but the son's name is not shown in records here we have seen. We have good information on the Canadian settlement, but the land petitions do not give a name for the deceased son. Any lead to a possible UK source, death list, etc, would be greatly appreciated. I can provide names & dates if needed. Charlie Weaver (descendant of the Shropshire WEAVERs) Winston-Salem, North Carolina

Hello, I recently received an April 23, 1866 marriage license for Benjamin Booth and Jane Ebrey for Prees, Shropshire. So I have a sense of what is on marriage records for that period, for example, father's name and occupation but not mother's name. My question is, what content is found on death records for the 1800s for Shropshire, starting in 1837? Do they have birth and death dates and places? Are the names of any relatives included? I do plan to order several more marriage records, and would order several death records if they would really help me with my family history research. Thanks to all the helpful folks on this list! Barbara Bradley Petura State of Washington, USA

Thanks Ken wonderful Regards Barry -----Original Message----- From: Ken Knott [mailto:ken_knott@ntlworld.com] Sent: 01 February 2010 20:28 To: eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] place name in Broseley Hi Barry, Google, Stablehill Colliery it should bring up top of the list a PDF doc. in it is a map showing the location of Jackfied Rails. All the best Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" <barrydeakin@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] place name in Broseley > Hi thanks for the help. In the census it looked like Trails in the earlier > ones but on reflection looks like rails in the newer censuses. As to the > Mone wood I have been sent a copy of a map showing it between the Milburgh > Tileries and a number of colliers so perhaps there was some sort of > railway > there which I cannot see. > > Regards > Barry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Knott [mailto:ken_knott@ntlworld.com] > Sent: 30 January 2010 17:03 > To: eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] place name in Broseley > > Hi Barry, > As Michael points out it should be Jackfield Rails they were the rail > lines > running North to South near Jackfield connected the mines. > > All the best > Ken > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael J Hulme" <hulmemj@googlemail.com> > To: <eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 4:46 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] place name in Broseley > > >> Hello Barry >> >> I think you will find your first reference should read Jackfield Rails >> rather than Trails and it was somewhere in Jackfield as the name >> suggests. I would guess this might refer to some sort of narrow gauge >> track for the movement of local material. > > > > > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Barry, Google, Stablehill Colliery it should bring up top of the list a PDF doc. in it is a map showing the location of Jackfied Rails. All the best Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" <barrydeakin@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] place name in Broseley > Hi thanks for the help. In the census it looked like Trails in the earlier > ones but on reflection looks like rails in the newer censuses. As to the > Mone wood I have been sent a copy of a map showing it between the Milburgh > Tileries and a number of colliers so perhaps there was some sort of > railway > there which I cannot see. > > Regards > Barry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Knott [mailto:ken_knott@ntlworld.com] > Sent: 30 January 2010 17:03 > To: eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] place name in Broseley > > Hi Barry, > As Michael points out it should be Jackfield Rails they were the rail > lines > running North to South near Jackfield connected the mines. > > All the best > Ken > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael J Hulme" <hulmemj@googlemail.com> > To: <eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 4:46 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] place name in Broseley > > >> Hello Barry >> >> I think you will find your first reference should read Jackfield Rails >> rather than Trails and it was somewhere in Jackfield as the name >> suggests. I would guess this might refer to some sort of narrow gauge >> track for the movement of local material. > > > > > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi thanks for the help. In the census it looked like Trails in the earlier ones but on reflection looks like rails in the newer censuses. As to the Mone wood I have been sent a copy of a map showing it between the Milburgh Tileries and a number of colliers so perhaps there was some sort of railway there which I cannot see. Regards Barry -----Original Message----- From: Ken Knott [mailto:ken_knott@ntlworld.com] Sent: 30 January 2010 17:03 To: eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] place name in Broseley Hi Barry, As Michael points out it should be Jackfield Rails they were the rail lines running North to South near Jackfield connected the mines. All the best Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael J Hulme" <hulmemj@googlemail.com> To: <eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] place name in Broseley > Hello Barry > > I think you will find your first reference should read Jackfield Rails > rather than Trails and it was somewhere in Jackfield as the name > suggests. I would guess this might refer to some sort of narrow gauge > track for the movement of local material.

Details sent direct as requested. Mike Shropshire, UK ______________________________________________________ Barbara Petura wrote: > Hello from across the pond! > > I wonder if anyone has the booklet or microfiche for Shropshire Monumental Inscriptions and would be willing to do a look up? > > The index results for the Ebrey surname show that there are 2 Ebrey entries for Prees: http://www.sfhs.org.uk/mi_surnameresults.asp?surname=ebrey > > I am making good progress in finding my Ebrey ancestors from the Prees area and I believe this information would help me. > > Thank you very much -- > Barbara Bradley Petura > > > > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hello from across the pond!   I wonder if anyone has the booklet or microfiche for Shropshire Monumental Inscriptions and would be willing to do a look up?   The index results for the Ebrey surname show that there are 2 Ebrey entries for Prees: http://www.sfhs.org.uk/mi_surnameresults.asp?surname=ebrey   I am making good progress in finding my Ebrey ancestors from the Prees area and I believe this information would help me.   Thank you very much -- Barbara Bradley Petura

Hi Listers, Many thanks to Gwynne Chadwick, Wolfie and Jim Hill for replies to the above query. You all provided useful information. Regards, Margaret Felthouse Perth Western Australia.

Hi Margaret, The inquest would probably have been reported in the local newspaper The Bridgnorth Journal. Unfortunately all old copies of the Bridgnorth Journal between 1869 to 1887 were destroyed in a fire. Regards, Gwynne Chadwick www.rafbridgnorth.org.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Felthouse" <margaret.felthouse@bigpond.com> To: "Shropshire Rootsweb" <Eng-Shropshire-Plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 1:24 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] ENG [Shropshire] Reports of Inquest in localnewspapers > Hello Listers, > > I have recently obtained death certificates for two of my Grandfather's > siblings who died at a young age 21 and 19 respectively. > > JOHN BENNETT died on the 27th June 1883 at Bardney, Worfield from the kick > of a horse on the head. I should imagine there would have been an inquest > into his death. > > Can anyone tell me please which local newspaper would have published this > event and would the newspaper posssibly be on line. > > TIA > > Margaret Felthouse > Perth, Western Australia. >

Hi Barry, As Michael points out it should be Jackfield Rails they were the rail lines running North to South near Jackfield connected the mines. All the best Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael J Hulme" <hulmemj@googlemail.com> To: <eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] place name in Broseley > Hello Barry > > I think you will find your first reference should read Jackfield Rails > rather than Trails and it was somewhere in Jackfield as the name > suggests. I would guess this might refer to some sort of narrow gauge > track for the movement of local material.

Hello Barry I think you will find your first reference should read Jackfield Rails rather than Trails and it was somewhere in Jackfield as the name suggests. I would guess this might refer to some sort of narrow gauge track for the movement of local material. The Gazetteer of Shropshire Place Names doesn't include anything like Mown Wood, so is there any chance there could be an alternative spelling. Mike Shropshire, UK ______________________________________________________ Barry wrote: > Hi > > Does anyone know where 'Jackfield Trails' or 'Mown Wood' is in Broseley? I > have found people in 1841 to 81 there but cannot find reference to it. > > > > Regards > > Barry > > > > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi Barry, 'Mone' Wood is half way between Broseley & Jackfield, can't spot Jackfield Trails on the old maps site but it can't be far away. All the best Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" <barrydeakin@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:55 PM Subject: [ENG-SHROP] [ENG HROP] place name in Broseley > Hi > > Does anyone know where 'Jackfield Trails' or 'Mown Wood' is in Broseley? I > have found people in 1841 to 81 there but cannot find reference to it. > > > > Regards > > Barry

Hi Does anyone know where 'Jackfield Trails' or 'Mown Wood' is in Broseley? I have found people in 1841 to 81 there but cannot find reference to it. Regards Barry

Hi Margaret If there had been an inquest the death certificate would say so. Under the section for informant it would have something like :- Certificate received from ....... Coroner for ........ Inquest held ........ I have this style on three certificates of relatives of mine. Good hunting Jim Hill - Melbourne -----Original Message----- From: eng-shropshire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-shropshire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Felthouse Sent: Saturday, 30 January 2010 12:25 PM To: Shropshire Rootsweb Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] ENG [Shropshire] Reports of Inquest in local newspapers Hello Listers, I have recently obtained death certificates for two of my Grandfather's siblings who died at a young age 21 and 19 respectively. JOHN BENNETT died on the 27th June 1883 at Bardney, Worfield from the kick of a horse on the head. I should imagine there would have been an inquest into his death. Can anyone tell me please which local newspaper would have published this event and would the newspaper posssibly be on line. TIA Margaret Felthouse Perth, Western Australia. REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. Threaded Archives at - http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives Searchable Archives at - http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Listers, I have recently obtained death certificates for two of my Grandfather's siblings who died at a young age 21 and 19 respectively. JOHN BENNETT died on the 27th June 1883 at Bardney, Worfield from the kick of a horse on the head. I should imagine there would have been an inquest into his death. Can anyone tell me please which local newspaper would have published this event and would the newspaper posssibly be on line. TIA Margaret Felthouse Perth, Western Australia.

You could maybe try the Bridgnorth Journal Wolfie............on cloud nine -----Original Message----- From: eng-shropshire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-shropshire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Felthouse Sent: 30 January 2010 01:25 To: Shropshire Rootsweb Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] ENG [Shropshire] Reports of Inquest in localnewspapers Hello Listers, I have recently obtained death certificates for two of my Grandfather's siblings who died at a young age 21 and 19 respectively. JOHN BENNETT died on the 27th June 1883 at Bardney, Worfield from the kick of a horse on the head. I should imagine there would have been an inquest into his death. Can anyone tell me please which local newspaper would have published this event and would the newspaper posssibly be on line. TIA Margaret Felthouse Perth, Western Australia. REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. Threaded Archives at - http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives Searchable Archives at - http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2636 - Release Date: 01/29/10 09:08:00