My apologies. I was a little confused with the microfiche - because the SLV 'outsourced scanning folk' had not put the proper titles on certain individual fiche, thus I by-passed them and allowed myself to mix up the St. Mary Shrewsbury ones with St. Chads. Give me the original books anytime!!!! After requesting the original St. Mary's copy of Shropshire Parish Register Society down from onsite storage I discovered my mistake. Then going back to the St. Chad's fiche which definitely were incorrectly labelled I did find page 1227 with the baptism records for Bartholomew on them. Unfortunately, Carolyn, there was no additional information as there sometimes is. Place name, etc. Sorry about that. Back to the drawing board. Graham Melbourne Oz

Hi. I wonder if anyone can help Please. According to the Census 1861 ,1871, 1881  , my GGGreat Grandparents lived at Coal Pit Lane, Pulverbatch. Can anyone tell me where Coal Pit Lane is and would the houses my ancestors lived in still be there Many Thanks Dave SHELDON

Hello Carolyn and Graham The Shrewsbury St Mary printed parish register only has one reference to the surname APPLETON and this is for the Burial of James APPLETON on 10 June 1802 age 75 of Castle Gates, currier. (Page 568) The IGI lists the Birth and Baptism of Bartholomew APPLETON on 4th & 8th March 1761 at Shrewsbury St Chad. This is the same as the details in the printed parish register but it would be useful to Carolyn if someone could check the entry in the original register to establish if it provides any additional information. Mike Shropshire, UK ______________________________________________________ Graham Price wrote: > At 12:43 AM 18/03/2010, Carolyn Parker wrote: > >> Hi list, I'm researching the family of Bartholomew APPLETON <<<<snip>>>> >> > > Hello Carolyn > I attempted to look at your Bartholomew Appleton's baptism in St. > Mary's Shrewsbury regs, but for some reason he is shown in the index > but that particular page was missing from the microfiche copy. Seems > that our State Library scanner here has missed out a volume when > copying. Pity that. We have most Shropshire parish registers here up > to 1812, some with marriages to 1837 but without knowing what parish > your folks came from it is almost impossible to search. I did note > that there were no other Appleton folk being baptised at St. Mary's. > Often people used the main churches in Shrewsbury for marriages and > some baptisms when they lived 20 miles or more away. Do you have any > further clues as to where your people might have come from? > Cheers > Graham > Melbourne > Oz > > > > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

At 12:43 AM 18/03/2010, Carolyn Parker wrote: >Hi list, I'm researching the family of Bartholomew APPLETON <<<<snip>>>> Hello Carolyn I attempted to look at your Bartholomew Appleton's baptism in St. Mary's Shrewsbury regs, but for some reason he is shown in the index but that particular page was missing from the microfiche copy. Seems that our State Library scanner here has missed out a volume when copying. Pity that. We have most Shropshire parish registers here up to 1812, some with marriages to 1837 but without knowing what parish your folks came from it is almost impossible to search. I did note that there were no other Appleton folk being baptised at St. Mary's. Often people used the main churches in Shrewsbury for marriages and some baptisms when they lived 20 miles or more away. Do you have any further clues as to where your people might have come from? Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz

Thank you to everyone who has been supportive of my efforts to find my Booth and Ebrey families in northern Shropshire. With kind help and GRO records, I have found that the father of Joseph Booth, my 3rd greatgrandfather, was George Booth, a farmer -- apparently in the Market Drayton area of northern Shropshire. He would have been born about 1785 and likely married about 1805, possibly to a woman named Sarah. George's name and occupation appear on the marriage record for his son Joseph C. Booth when Joseph, as a widower, married for the second time in 1863. Joseph was born in Shakeford a small village south of Market Drayton on 26 Nov 1808, according to family and census records. So now I am searching for George Booth - his parents, wife and children. You can find my recently posted, detailed query here: http://genforum.genealogy.com/englandcountry/messages/141115.html I welcome any information about George Booth and this extended Booth family in the area of Shropshire north of Shrewsbury. Also welcome are suggestions on approaches for further research. Barbara Bradley Petura

Hello - and thank you for your interest and help. What led me to Shropshire was a birth record that I found and proved, listing a "Bartholomew Appleton" christened at St. Chad's Church in Shrewsbury, Shropshire on Mar 4, 1761; His parents were Homer Appleton and Elinor Halsay who were married in Liverpool and all of their other children were born in Liverpool.. I thought that there might have been a Shropshire connection that took this coupe to Shropshire and Bartholomew was born there.. He was their second chid.. I was hoping to find more Appletons or Halsys! Does this help? Thanks again, Carolyn in Boston, Ma this couple was married inAt 02:10 AM 3/19/2010, you wrote: >At 12:43 AM 18/03/2010, Carolyn Parker wrote: > >Hi list, I'm researching the family of Bartholomew APPLETON <<<<snip>>>> > >Hello Carolyn >I attempted to look at your Bartholomew Appleton's baptism in St. >Mary's Shrewsbury regs, but for some reason he is shown in the index >but that particular page was missing from the microfiche copy. Seems >that our State Library scanner here has missed out a volume when >copying. Pity that. We have most Shropshire parish registers here up >to 1812, some with marriages to 1837 but without knowing what parish >your folks came from it is almost impossible to search. I did note >that there were no other Appleton folk being baptised at St. Mary's. >Often people used the main churches in Shrewsbury for marriages and >some baptisms when they lived 20 miles or more away. Do you have any >further clues as to where your people might have come from? >Cheers >Graham >Melbourne >Oz > > > > >REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. >Threaded Archives at - >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > >Searchable Archives at - >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi list, I'm researching the family of Bartholomew APPLETON who was born in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, in March 1761 to Homer Appleton and Elinor Halsay.. Can anyone help me lpcate local records that might reveal more information about the APLETON and HALSAY families at that time? Thank you, Carolyn

At 02:51 AM 15/03/2010, Frank Lyn wrote: >Greetings all >I'm new to the list and hoping to find background on the HOLDER and BUTTERY >families. What I have: Hello Frank. Some records are available at our State Library here. Tong, unfortunately does not go up beyond 1812 for baptisms and we do not have Child's Ercall, which seems suspiciously like your 'Childsercle.' I could find no Holder or Buttery folk in the records up to 1812 so they must have come from another parish. High Ercall, which is a fair distance away, has tons of Buttery folk. Anyway, I think I have found your Sarah Clarke in the Tong baptismal register. Page 111. 3 Apr 1796 Sarah d/o John & Eliz Clarke Then there were siblings. p105 13 Nov 1784 Thomas p106 24 Sep 1786 Edmund p107 18 May 1788 William p108 2 May 1790 Mary p109 6 Jan 1793 Samuel p110 12 Sep 1794 Anne p112 1 Jul 1798 Charles Solomon p113 burials. 14 May 1799. John Clarke of Offoxey Farm. It's probably the one and only or his father, but no real proof of course. If you Google you will find a fair bit of info re. Offoxey Farm. I could not find a marriage of John & Elizabeth, nor a death of Elizabeth up to 1812. Child's Ercall regs are available on microfilm through the LDS folk at their many family history libraries and there is one that gives monumental inscriptions for St. Michael, Child's Ercall 1771-1990. You might have fun with that! Check out what is available by going to www.familysearch.org click into library catalog and type in place name Childs Ercall. You can also do the same for Tong. I have found these microfilms to be invaluable. Good fortune Graham Melbourne Oz

Greetings all I'm new to the list and hoping to find background on the HOLDER and BUTTERY families. What I have: Charles HOLDER, bapt 8 April 1821, Tong, Shropshire. Father: Joseph HOLDER Mother: Sarah CLARK Married: Fanny BUTTERY, 13 Jan 1848 Fanny BUTTERY, b. 1 Dec 1822 Father: John BUTTERY Mother: Elizabeth (Birthplace looks like Childsercle?? Handwritten, difficult to decypher) Charles and Fanny HOLDER both became respected Wesleyan preachers. Fanny seems to have made numerous preaching tours outside of her native Shropshire. The couple emmigrated to New Zealand in the 1880s. Fanny died 20 Dec 1883 in Christchurch. Charles died 19 Feb 1895 in Waimate. Any info on the HOLDER and BUTTERY families will be very welcome. Best wishes Frank Early South Africa

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Thanks kathryn and Peter regarding explanation on LD phone numbers. I've had some problems in the past with cc on-line and it only costs me $1.00 for over 30 minutes on the phone so if possible I would rather like to do it that way, it all depends at the moment to get info together so I can order the right ones. Joyce

Hi Dianne Why order by phone? The GRO order website is simplicity itself. Peter Bridge In a message dated 06/03/2010 03:20:00 GMT Standard Time, joyce_c@rogers.com writes: I googled to check after the 011 the next 2 numbers are 44 for the UK then the area code which in this case is 300, so now I see which 0 that Dianne says she drops. The must have some reason for adding the 0 perhaps like we add a 1 for long distance. Now to gather the information I need to order a certificate or two. thanks Dianne Dianne wrote: When I call from Canada I always have to add 01144 and drop the first number which is usually a 0.

Undoubtedly an interesting resource. Members might like to look at the coverage page before deciding on an "upgrade". See http://www.ffhs.org.uk/projects/nbi/nbi-coverage.php gives you the general coverage and http://www.ffhs.org.uk/projects/nbi/sal3.php gives you the specific coverage for SAL. Remember SFHS has a burial CD (v4 is the current one) and coverage can be found at the bottom of this page http://www.sfhs.org.uk/shropshireburials.asp I urge members to compare their interests to avoid any disappointment. -- Sherry Landa Oxford, UK > The Federation of Family History Societies (FFHS) has just announced > that v3 of the National Burial Index is available. See > http://www.ffhs.org.uk/ > > If you wish to upgrade from v2 at the discounted rate you must place > your order direct with FFHS but anyone purchasing the index for the > first time will be able to buy it from a variety of sources.

Exactly - the 0 is the long distance prefix both in the UK and here in Ireland so for international calls one drops it. Normally one puts a bracket around it if giving a full international dialling code in one's address. Thus my office switchboard number is +353 (0) 41 982 7572 so 353 is the code for Ireland prefixed by whatever one puts before international codes for one's own provider - here it is 00 - then 041 is the code for the Drogheda area and the rest is the local number. When calling from outside Ireland one drops the 0 and just dials the 41 part Same operates in the UK kathryn On 6 Mar 2010, at 03:19, joyce crete wrote: > I googled to check after the 011 the next 2 numbers are 44 for the UK then the > area code which in this case is 300, so now I see which 0 that Dianne says > she drops. The must have some reason for adding the 0 perhaps like we add a 1 for long distance. Now to gather the information I need to order a certificate or two. thanks Dianne > > > > > Dianne wrote: > When I call from Canada I always have to add 01144 and drop the first > number which is usually a 0. > > > At 09:45 PM 02/03/2010, I wrote: > >> Hi Mike - Is there a phone number to call to order GRO certificates? >> clipped.......on the site given I saw this number *0300 222 0000* > > > > > > > REMEMBER - The question you are asking may have already been answered. > Threaded Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/Archives > > Searchable Archives at - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello The Federation of Family History Societies (FFHS) has just announced that v3 of the National Burial Index is available. See http://www.ffhs.org.uk/ If you wish to upgrade from v2 at the discounted rate you must place your order direct with FFHS but anyone purchasing the index for the first time will be able to buy it from a variety of sources. Mike Shropshire, UK ______________________________________________________

I googled to check after the 011 the next 2 numbers are 44 for the UK then the area code which in this case is 300, so now I see which 0 that Dianne says she drops. The must have some reason for adding the 0 perhaps like we add a 1 for long distance. Now to gather the information I need to order a certificate or two. thanks Dianne Dianne wrote: When I call from Canada I always have to add 01144 and drop the first number which is usually a 0. At 09:45 PM 02/03/2010, I wrote: > Hi Mike - Is there a phone number to call to order GRO certificates? > clipped.......on the site given I saw this number *0300 222 0000*

Hello Norman The publication "A Gazetteer of Streets, Roads and Place Names in Shropshire" by H.D.G. Foxall published by Salop County Council 1967 now long out of print but available on microfiche from Shropshire FHS states:- "Maes-termyn, 3/4 mile SW of Welsh Frankton" and adds the note "Given as Maes-terfyn on 1st Edition Six Inch OS". If you go to the British History Online web site at http://www.british-history.ac.uk/map.aspx?compid=55135 then select map number 013/SW (slightly NE of Oswestry) you will find Maes-terfyn in the extreme top left corner. Just click on the map at that point to get an enlarged view. Whilst the property is shown on modern maps it does not appear to be named on the 1:50,000 or 1:25,000 OS maps but the Grid Reference is SJ 355 324. The following link should show the property on Goggle Maps. <http://maps.google.co.uk/?ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=52.885564,-2.958788&spn=0.003742,0.009366&z=17> Mike Shropshire, UK ______________________________________________________ Norman Rowcroft wrote: > On the 1851 census for Frankton there is an address of Maesterfyn. I am not > sure if this is the name of a property or an area. On a site concerning the > Llangollen Canal there is a section of map covering Maesterfyn to Chirk but > Maesterfin is not actually shown. Can anyone with local knowledge throw any > light on this as I am hoping it will help me with a line of research. > > Any help would be most welcome. > > regards > > Norman > >

On the 1851 census for Frankton there is an address of Maesterfyn. I am not sure if this is the name of a property or an area. On a site concerning the Llangollen Canal there is a section of map covering Maesterfyn to Chirk but Maesterfin is not actually shown. Can anyone with local knowledge throw any light on this as I am hoping it will help me with a line of research. Any help would be most welcome. regards Norman

Thanks Jim, I didn't make myself clear, I need to do the checking and my phone calls don't cost much regardless of the length of time so I'd rather use the phone to transmit my cc numbers, and am hoping I can find the time before the end of the month to get the GRO numbers I need. thanks again Joyce c On 03/03/2010 3:00 AM, eng-shropshire-plus-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Hi Joyce > > The GRO is not much help with searching. You need the idex numbers. Their > number 0845 603 7788 and your interantal access code. > > I have found that local registry offices are more helpful but don't use the > GRO Index Number. > > Shropshire is on 0345 675 9016 orregisrars@shropshire.gov.uk > > Good luck > > Jim Hill >

At 07:16 PM 2/03/2010, Jim wrote: >Hi Mike >This has come up on a number of sites. The cost whilst a big rise is still >low compared to other countries/states. Victoria charges about 11 pounds but >it can ve downloaded on line. Queensland charges about 23 punds and is only >available by mail. Ahah, but Victoria certainly has one up on the UK with the availability of Wills and Admins online absolutely FREE! You can access any from 1841 to 1925 simply by going to <http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=54>http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=54 or to the home page at <http://www.prov.vic.gov.au/>http://www.prov.vic.gov.au/ and these are not just indexes - the full digital record is yours to download, although one might be somewhat selective as many of these would be very large files. Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz