In a message dated 26/05/2005 22:36:25 GMT Standard Time, trayford@rogers.com writes: If you tell us what you are looking for re occupation someone will look..... Hi Elaine, That would be very helpful. I need to find Joseph Badger probably in the city centre. I would also like to see who was living with him at the time. Of course Joseph may have died, and the son carried on in which case the forename may not be Joseph. He would certainly have been older than 53 so I need an older man if the father is still alive. The William Watkinson was there as I knew he would be, in Pinstone Street aged 53. However, as a baby William Watkinson was sent home in 1788 from India to live with his uncle Joseph Badger in Sheffield because his father had died. There was no mother mentioned. At that time Joseph Badger, I think I have the right one, had a business as a Carpenter and Joiner in Brinsworths Orchard according to a 1787 directory. He seems to have been at Portobello Street by 1822 Baines' Directory. I see in the 1841 they are still in Portobello Street as a family. Could you check whether they are still in the Carpentry and Joinery business. Also do you know where Brinsworths Orchard was in 1787. The Badgers seem to have used Sheffield Cathedral for their BMDs but how to hit on the right Joseph Badgers family and find a lady who married a Lt. G. Watkinson, maybe in India is quite a problem. I cannot work backwards as is usual but have to work from 1788 forwards. Quite a brickwall. Any advice and help gratefully received. Best wishes JUDY ELKINGTON _http://www.elkingtonfamily.com_ (http://www.elklingtonfamily.com/) ELKINGTON-L@rootsweb.com http://www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html