i have been in the cemetery this morning & the council jobsworths were in flattening stones. it looks like a demolition site now. disgusting. tony -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm

Re- ---- Original Message ----- From: "anthony staniforth" <anton42@fsmail.net> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 12:24 PM Subject: [SHEFF] intake cemetery >i have been in the cemetery this morning & the council jobsworths were in >flattening stones. it looks like a demolition site now. disgusting. > tony > Don't blame the Council. Damage caused mainly by time and children (perhaps just like yours and mine?) has made so many small and tall stones unsafe that a comprehensive and government sponsored scheme under formal Health and Safety rules has tried to make the cemetery safe in the best, and possibly only way, there is. Mike Bailey Sawtry Cambs > -- > >

Sorry Mike I must disagree with your opinion of the cemetery situation. Just because one child in West Yorkshire got crushed, and killed whilst playing in a cemetery, the Health and Safety regulations have been abused by our local councils. A cemetery is not a playground, and my son was never allowed to roam without my knowledge of where he was, and was he was disgusted when he saw children playing near where his grandparents were buried. My grandmother's triple grave was labeled up as dangerous, and luckily we went in time to contact the council and agree to the £200 to have it "made safe". It does come with a "lifetime" guarantee, but it took them 3 months from getting our cheque to actually doing the work, that shows how critically dangerous it really was. Whilst a believer in real Health and Safety the interpretation of the regulations by our local councils, seems to be over the top. Regards Kay-UK -----Original Message----- From: Michael Bailey [mailto:blacklabs@mjwjbailey.fsnet.co.uk] Sent: 18 February 2005 14:05 To: ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SHEFF] intake cemetery Re- ---- Original Message ----- From: "anthony staniforth" <anton42@fsmail.net> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 12:24 PM Subject: [SHEFF] intake cemetery >i have been in the cemetery this morning & the council jobsworths were in >flattening stones. it looks like a demolition site now. disgusting. > tony > Don't blame the Council. Damage caused mainly by time and children (perhaps just like yours and mine?) has made so many small and tall stones unsafe that a comprehensive and government sponsored scheme under formal Health and Safety rules has tried to make the cemetery safe in the best, and possibly only way, there is. Mike Bailey Sawtry Cambs > -- > > ==== ENG-SHEFFIELD Mailing List ==== FLAMING or response postings to any unsavoury message content will not be tolerated on Eng-Sheffield. ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

On Wednesday, Jan 19, 2005, at 18:45 Europe/London, Kay Simpkins wrote: > Sorry Mike I must disagree with your opinion of the cemetery situation. > Just because one child in West Yorkshire got crushed, and killed whilst > playing in a cemetery, the Health and Safety regulations have been > abused > by our local councils. > > A cemetery is not a playground, and my son was never allowed to roam > without > my knowledge of where he was, and was he was disgusted when he saw > children > playing near where his grandparents were buried. > > My grandmother's triple grave was labeled up as dangerous, and luckily > we > went in time to contact the council and agree to the £200 to have it > "made > safe". It does come with a "lifetime" guarantee, but it took them 3 > months > from getting our cheque to actually doing the work, that shows how > critically dangerous it really was. > > Whilst a believer in real Health and Safety the interpretation of the > regulations by our local councils, seems to be over the top. > Okay so this is all okay - points well made and valid .... But my grandfather was buried in a cemetary in Sheffield - I don't know which one, none of his family are there, nobody has tended that grave for 70 years. I don't live in Sheffield. I don't know if there are gravestones for earlier members of the family - no information passed down - it is unlikely as there was very little money. I believe the Freemasons' paid for grandfather's. One family's child is killed by a tombstone.... I might be a bit cross if the same thing happened to my child and the council hadn't taken steps to prevent it. In this litigious state it is no wonder the councils are laying down the tombstones. Jay