hi peter i have sent this through the list incase anyone else related to the link info. i found josph and mary ARCHDALE on the 1851 census living lower heeley but the writing is not very good but i can make most of it out. JOSEPH ARCHDALE 51 HEAD CUTLER BORN HEELEY YORKSHIRE MARY ARCHDALE 42 WIFE BORN CURDAR DERBYSHIRE SARAH ARCHDALE 20 DAUGHTER UNMARRRIED SCHOOL TEACHER BORN HEELEY MARIA ARCHDALE 18 DAUGHTER UNMARRIED BORN HEELEY MARY ARCHDALE 15 BORN HEELEY EMILY ARCHDALE 9 DAUGHTER BORN HEELEY JOSIAH ARCHDALE 7 SON BORN HEELEY WILLIAM ARCHDALE 2 SON BORN HEELEY there is no ann but she may have been married as she would be 21 joseph had died before 1871 as mary is a widow living with daughter sarah and son in law william d botham at woodhead brampton in derbyshire WILLIAM D BOTHAM 38 HEAD FARMER AND BUTCHER BORN BARLOW DERBYSHIRE SARAH ELLIOTT BOTHAM 39 WIFE BORN HEELEY YORKSHIRE WILLIAM A BOTHAM 10 SON BORN CHESTERFIELD DERBYSHIRE ALICE M BOTHAM 8 DAUGHTER BORN CHESTERFIELD DERBYSHIRE ANNIE E BOTHAM 6 DAUGHTER BORN CHESTERFIELD DERBYSHIRE JOSEPH A BOTHAM 4 SON BORN BRAMPTON DERBYSHIRE JOSIAH E BOTHAM 2 BORN BRAMPTON DERBYSHIRE H K BOTHAM UNDER 1 MONTH SON BORN BRAMPTON DERBYSHIRE MARY ARCHDALE 62 MOTHER IN LAW BORN CURBAR DERBYSHIRE mary married verdon deardon in 1871 living 30 summerfield street ecclesall yorkshire VERDON DEARDON 50 HEAD CHEMIST/DRUGIST MARY ELLIOTT DEARDON 35 WIFE CECELIA DEARDON 1 DAUGHTER 1881 living 71 london road ecclesall yorkshire MARY ELLIOTT DEARDON 40 HEAD WIDOW CHEMIST MARY ARCHDALE 72 MOTHER WIDOW there was no cecelia in 1891 living next door to william and sarah botham on walton lane brampton derbyshire is a maria elliott turner aged 55 but it says single and born brompton not heeley but with sarah and mary both having elliott as their midddle name maybe she had seperated from her husband or divorced as she was living on her own means it says. not been able to find any of the others but i have sarah on the 1881 1891 and 1901 if you have not got the info let me know. hope this is some help to you carol slater from sheffield Peter Botham <pbotham@telus.net> wrote: Hello Listers, I have data taken from the 1841 census for a family in my ancestry. They lived at Heeley in the Ecclesall Bierlow district of Sheffield, (Am I right in expressing their district of residence in this way?) and the members were as follows: Joseph Archdale, 40; Mary Archdale, 30, Ann Archdale, 10; Sarah Archdale, 9; Maria Archdale, 7; and Mary Archdale, 4. As you can see As those of you experienced with the 1841 census can see, I don't have all the information taken at the census. First of all, I don't understand the address (shown as "Heeley" for all the names), and nothing is given regarding: Houses; Profession or trade; or the locations of birth of the family members. May I request that some kind soul who has the census records for 1841, 1851, 1861 or 1871 please look for this family and send me what they find. I don't expect that Sarah will appear from 1861 onwards as she married my GGGrandfather, William Drabble Botham in 1859. I have no idea of what happened to the other members of the family as time went on and would greatly appreciate the kindness of someone looking them up. Thank you Peter Botham Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada ==== ENG-SHEFFIELD Mailing List ==== FLAMING or response postings to any unsavoury message content will not be tolerated on Eng-Sheffield. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com