In a message dated 11/03/2005 13:36:53 GMT Standard Time, levans44@yahoo.co.uk writes: I have search FreeBMD, IGI etc for the marraige the only one I can find is for a George Proctor to Alice Shaw in Sheffield 15/12/1856. Does anyone know where else I can look to get the info I need to send for the certificate. Hi Lisa You could have a look at _www.1837online.com_ (http://www.1837online.com) but if you think this is your couple then you would be able to get the reference number required. Best wishes JUDY ELKINGTON _www.elkingtonfamily.com_ (http://www.elklingtonfamily.com/) ELKINGTON-L@rootsweb.com