Hello again, after just received a marriage certificate confirming the father of William, can sks try to give me any information prior to the 1861 census which read: Tinsley Park Road (or West), NAME AGE OCCUPATION WHERE BORN James Holroyd Head 58 Colliery Banksman Yorks,Tinsley Mary Wife 48 Yorks, Whiston William Son 17 Coal Miner Yorks, Tinsley Park Joseph Son 14 Coal Miner Lancs., Newton Heath Hannah Dau 12 Scholar Yorks, Tinsley Park Mary Dau 9 " ditto George H Son 7 " ditto James A Son 5 " ditto George Sayton Nephew 15 Collier Banksman Yorks, Whiston Kind Regards Kay-UK Researching:  SMITH (Whaplode Drove, Lincs. & Welches Dam, Cambs) SIMPKINS/SIMPKIN/SIMKINS (Witcham, Woodditton, Cambs.) NEWELL/NOWELL/NOWILL (Walsall, Staffs., Eckington, Derbyshire, Doncaster, Yorks.) RUMBELOW (Cambridgeshire/Suffolk) HARDING (Tydd St Giles/St Mary, Cambs. Mildenhall, Suffolk ) JONES (Dudley, Worcs. Eckington Doncaster) HULL (Leicestershire) MOAKES (Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire) JEWKES, (Dudley), WORTON (Dudley) HOLDROYD/HOLROYD (Sheffield/Doncaster) HESSLEWOOD (Sheffield/Doncaster) CLUFF/CLOUGH (Whaplode Drove, Wisbech St Mary?) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 11/03/2005