John Readman writes: >Thomas Millington; did he marry Miss Mary Ann Hanson at Rotherham-there is >an announcement in the newspaper for this marriage on May 15, 1847 <snip> >It appears that this Thomas Millington had a brother called James, who in >1849, charged his brother Thomas with theft! > >By 1854, Thomas Millington was 31, still a saw maker, and was in trouble >again for theft, stealing chairs from two pubs, the Black Swan at Snighill >and the Waterloo Turf Tavern-he was sentenced to twelve months. (if this >Thomas is yours then at least you know which pubs he frequented!) Timothy Millington's family did have sons named Thomas and James, but I don't think it's the same pair mentioned in your message. My Timothy's Thomas was bapt in 1806, a bit old to be getting married in 1847, the saw-making MILLINGTONs in Sheffield at the time appear to be a different line (most of mine seemed to be Hatters at one time or another), and if the article is at all correct, the chair-stealing Thomas was born ca 1823. However, thanks for the message. Are the Black Swan at Snighill and the Waterloo Turf Tavern still in existence? If so, I'd like to stop by them the next time I'm across the pond - purely out of a Family History desire to "put flesh on the bones", mind! Dave in northern Illinois

Hi When I lived in Sheffield it was comically known as the 'Mucky Duck' and was still there the last time I was in Sheffield. A distant relative of mine (or at least a name sake) Terry Steeples was the owner and was also in entertainments around Sheffield. Regards Terry > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 07:27:13 -0600 > To: eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com > From: dwh123@charter.net > Subject: Re: [SHEFF] Thomas Millington > > John Readman writes: > > >Thomas Millington; did he marry Miss Mary Ann Hanson at Rotherham-there is > >an announcement in the newspaper for this marriage on May 15, 1847 > > <snip> > > >It appears that this Thomas Millington had a brother called James, who in > >1849, charged his brother Thomas with theft! > > > >By 1854, Thomas Millington was 31, still a saw maker, and was in trouble > >again for theft, stealing chairs from two pubs, the Black Swan at Snighill > >and the Waterloo Turf Tavern-he was sentenced to twelve months. (if this > >Thomas is yours then at least you know which pubs he frequented!) > > > Timothy Millington's family did have sons named Thomas and James, but > I don't think it's the same pair mentioned in your message. > > My Timothy's Thomas was bapt in 1806, a bit old to be getting married > in 1847, the saw-making MILLINGTONs in Sheffield at the time appear > to be a different line (most of mine seemed to be Hatters at one time > or another), and if the article is at all correct, the chair-stealing > Thomas was born ca 1823. > > However, thanks for the message. Are the Black Swan at Snighill and > the Waterloo Turf Tavern still in existence? If so, I'd like to stop > by them the next time I'm across the pond - purely out of a Family > History desire to "put flesh on the bones", mind! > > Dave > in northern Illinois > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dave Hinde wrote: > Are the Black Swan at Snighill and > the Waterloo Turf Tavern still in existence? The current Black Swan (or Mucky Duck) on Snig Hill is a newish place, built post-war. I think you'd be disappointed Dave! The Waterloo Tavern was on Watson's Walk, which was in the same area. That part of the city centre was more or less destroyed in the blitz in the second world war. Personally, I've never seen the Waterloo, but I have been in the (new) Black Swan. cheers Richard