I am new to the Sheffield list. I have a copy of a marriage certificate for Isaac Bennett/e & Eliza Bond. (Sheffield, England Gro Ref #9C-278). It states married in the parish church of Sheffield. Groom Isaac lived at Ebenezer Square, and Bride Eliza lived at West Bar. 18 Mar 1855. Isaac’s fathers’ name is Samuel, and Eliza’s is James. Witnesses were Joseph Mellor & Mary Marsden. Are Ebenezer square & West bar names of streets or areas? How close are they actually to Sheffield? Isaac was born in Stoney Middleton, Derbyshire, and Eliza was born in Worcester, Worcestershire. How far are these birth towns from Sheffield. I’m wondering why they married in Sheffield? In 1855 what main occupation would there have been? Miners, Weavers, Blacksmiths? Other? Later years census info states Isaac’s occupation & the same for some of his sons as Lime Burner…..Anyone know what that is and where one would work to do that? All of their children appear to be born in the Stoney Middleton area as well, and I’m just curious how Sheffield came into their lives. I’m not from England, but the USA, so I have no idea how close these areas or towns are. I’ve tried to check on maps, but have difficulty finding the Ebenezer Square & West Bar. The census of 1861 & 71 show them living at civil parish of Eyam, Derbyshire, Bakewell & Tideswell. Anyone able to answer location questions? Occupation ? Anyone connected to the bride/groom/witnesses/ parents? Thanks for any answers, suggestions, and suggestions of other web sites I could find more on... Kris Burrill Michigan, USA
Hi Kris, welcome to the list. I noticed your post because I used to live at Stoney Middleton. Stoney Middleton is a village in Derbyshire about 13 miles from Sheffield. There are a lot of limestone quarries around there as well as feldspar and lead mines (now closed). Mapping sites should find it for you. As to West Bar, it is a street in Sheffield but also gives its name to the area round about it. I looked for Ebenezer Square on Google but it does not appear to exist anymore. Google gave me a page from the UK National Archives for the 1851 census and it looks like it was in an area heavily redevelopped in the last 50 yrs. I looked at the 1851 census using findmypast.co.uk which has a place search option and found that there was a Joseph Mellor living there. I would guess that Isaac might have come to lodge with them but he was not there in 1851. In fact he was at Middleton Bank, Eyam near Stoney Middleton. He was an agricultural labourer and lived at home. His father was a lime burner. Turning to Eliza, I found an Eliza Bond living in West Bars, CHesterfield. It is also about 13 miles from Sheffield. She was sister in law to Joseph Marsden and his wife (her sister?) was Mary. Eliza was declared to be born in Leamington, Warwickshire so this entry needs double checking. As for what Isaac might of done in Sheffield, just about anything, I suppose - Joseph Mellor was an engraver, his father a shoe maker, Isaac could have been in those trades or just a lodger. Have you looked at the 1861 Census? anyway, I hope that this has been useful and good luck! Peter Lee ---------------------------------------- > From: Kgjburrill@aol.com > Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:42:58 -0400 > To: eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SHEFF] BENNETT/e, BOND,Mellor, Marsden 1855 > > I am new to the Sheffield list. > > > I have a copy of a marriage certificate for Isaac Bennett/e & Eliza Bond. > (Sheffield, England Gro Ref #9C-278). It states married in the parish > church of Sheffield. Groom Isaac lived at Ebenezer Square, and Bride Eliza > lived at West Bar. 18 Mar 1855. > Isaac’s fathers’ name is Samuel, and Eliza’s is James. > Witnesses were Joseph Mellor & Mary Marsden. > Are Ebenezer square & West bar names of streets or areas? How close are > they actually to Sheffield? Isaac was born in Stoney Middleton, > Derbyshire, and Eliza was born in Worcester, Worcestershire. How far are these > birth towns from Sheffield. I’m wondering why they married in Sheffield? In > 1855 > what main occupation would there have been? Miners, Weavers, > Blacksmiths? > Other? Later years census info states Isaac’s occupation & the same for > some of his sons as Lime Burner…..Anyone know what that is and where one > would work to do that? All of their children appear to be born in the Stoney > Middleton area as well, and I’m just curious how Sheffield came into their > lives. > I’m not from England, but the USA, so I have no idea how close these > areas or towns are. I’ve tried to check on maps, but have difficulty finding > the Ebenezer Square & West Bar. The census of 1861 & 71 show them living at > civil parish of Eyam, Derbyshire, Bakewell & Tideswell. > Anyone able to answer location questions? Occupation ? > Anyone connected to the bride/groom/witnesses/ parents? > Thanks for any answers, suggestions, and suggestions of other web sites I > could find more on... > Kris Burrill > Michigan, USA > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/
Hi Kris, I am the site admin for "Sheffield Indexers." that has a large database of material to help with your research. For the Sheffield area. http://www.sheffieldindexers.com/ If you look under LINKS you will find a huge selection of maps that will help. I have recently been transcribing a number of Baptismal Records for St Luke's Hollis Croft and I am sure that a number of the families lived in Ebenezer Square which wouldn't be far from West Bar. I will however check on that for you. Both West Bar & Ebenezer Sq are in Central Sheffield. If you Google for Old Occupations I am sure you will find what a Lime Burner was. Lime it's self was used for many different tasks. i.e. scattered on the land and houses were painted with lime. see the following. "Limestone is of rather low value, but nevertheless it is probably the most important mineral. It is mined and used in large amounts, which often conflicts with the protection of karst areas and caves. In history man used first the flint nodules, which are common in limestone. Later, after he become resident he used the rock for building purposes. Various kinds of limestone and marble were used for walls, pillars and much more. The soft rock was used to produce sculptures. Even limestone roofs and floors were built. With the increase of technology many more usages of lime were found. It is burnt in kilns to produce lime, white colour and finally cement. It is needed to produce glass, porcellain, or as addition in the melting of many metals. It is used to purify coal and the waste gas of power plants using carbon based fuel. Limestone neutralizes many toxic substances, especially sulphur oxide and sulphur dioxide. In combination with sulphur it is converted into gypsum. Limestone is typically quarried, as it occurs in huge sedimentary layers, and as mining is to expensive. " During the industrial revaluation there was a mass exodus from the land to the large cities, that's where the jobs were....... Hope this helps. Elaine in Ottawa Canada. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Kgjburrill@aol.com> To: <eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com> Sent: April 28, 2010 9:42 PM Subject: [SHEFF] BENNETT/e, BOND,Mellor, Marsden 1855 >I am new to the Sheffield list. > > > I have a copy of a marriage certificate for Isaac Bennett/e & Eliza Bond. > (Sheffield, England Gro Ref #9C-278). It states married in the parish > church of Sheffield. Groom Isaac lived at Ebenezer Square, and Bride > Eliza > lived at West Bar. 18 Mar 1855. > Isaac’s fathers’ name is Samuel, and Eliza’s is James. > Witnesses were Joseph Mellor & Mary Marsden. > Are Ebenezer square & West bar names of streets or areas? How close are > they actually to Sheffield? Isaac was born in Stoney Middleton, > Derbyshire, and Eliza was born in Worcester, Worcestershire. How far > are these > birth towns from Sheffield. I’m wondering why they married in Sheffield? > In > 1855 > what main occupation would there have been? Miners, Weavers, > Blacksmiths? > Other? Later years census info states Isaac’s occupation & the same for > some of his sons as Lime Burner…..Anyone know what that is and where one > would work to do that? All of their children appear to be born in the > Stoney > Middleton area as well, and I’m just curious how Sheffield came into > their > lives. > I’m not from England, but the USA, so I have no idea how close these > areas or towns are. I’ve tried to check on maps, but have difficulty > finding > the Ebenezer Square & West Bar. The census of 1861 & 71 show them living > at > civil parish of Eyam, Derbyshire, Bakewell & Tideswell. > Anyone able to answer location questions? Occupation ? > Anyone connected to the bride/groom/witnesses/ parents? > Thanks for any answers, suggestions, and suggestions of other web sites I > could find more on... > Kris Burrill > Michigan, USA > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message