Hello List I know a lot of you have a lot of experience of surmounting brickwalls in FH research and I wondered if anyone had any ideas of where to look for a marriage of a George Barnsley to Ann around 1798-1800. I am researching the history of the firm of George Barnsley and Sons who were toolmakers based in Cornish Steet. Sheffield. Barnsleys were cutlers in the locality back to at least the 1500s and a George Barnsley was Master Cutler in 1650 and in 1883. It is the grandparents' marriage of the 1883 GB that I have been unable to find over several years of searching. We have tried Familysearch, all parish records of churches functioning at the time in Sheffield, South Yorkshire and North Derbyshire. We have tried spelling variations. My 2 x greatgrandfather, Charles was bapitsed at St Peters in 1802 as was his brother George in 1810. No other siblings are recorded in between though there was another George born to parents of same name baptised in 18 01. He died and therefore the son born 1810 was given his father's name, George. I have reams of info about apprenticeships, marriages and deaths but nothing fits together to give any clear to where the marriage was and there fore to give a name for the father of George, husband of Ann. George (b. 1810) and his wife Elizabeth and Charles (b!802) and his wife also Elizabeth and second wife Hannah lived in Allen Street Any ideas of where to look next?? All suggestions greatly received. Best wishes Pauline Bell Southwell, Notts Researching: Bailey,Barnsley, Barber, Bell, Cooper, Froggatt, Leclere, Shaw

Hi Dave, I have found a Benjamin Marsden who was 31 in the 1851 census, (so born about 1820) living in Upper Heeley. He was born in Sheffield and working as a Grinder. I wonder if he was a brother to your Thomas Marsden? Benjamin named a son Thomas, but that's hardly conclusive evidence. Both are buried at Heeley Christ Church - Benjamin in 1859 at the age of 41 and two sons, Thomas and Herbert, in 1861. They lived at Warburton's Yard, London Road. Do you have access to any information that might indicate whether Thomas had siblings? Happy new year! Louise in rainy Vancouver, BC, Canada _________ Message: 1 Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:19:01 -0600 From: Dave <dwh123@charter.net> Subject: [SHEFF] MARSDEN (Thomas, son of George & Maria) To: Sheffield List <ENG-SHEFFIELD@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <RbJx1d0083BBSoc05bK05a@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi All: Thomas was born 3 Jul 1818 in Sheffield, baptized 27 Dec 1818 in the Sheffield Parish Church, and died 11 Apr 1893 in Sheffield. He was the son of George and Maria (formerly RODGER, a widow when they married). Thomas was a Razorsmith. His father George was a Silversmith/Scissorsmith. Thomas married Priscilla COGGIN 13 Aug 1838 in the Sheffield Parish Church. Priscilla died 5 Sep 1850. Subsequently, Thomas married Elizabeth HAZLEWOOD in 1868 at St Jude, Eldon, Sheffield. Prior to Priscilla's death (well, it hardly could be afterwards!) they had 3 children: William (possible birth registration Sep 1/4 1838 Ecclesall Bierlow) Elizabeth (born 16 Oct 1841) Mary (possible birth registration Mar 1/4 1848 Ecclesall Bierlow) If anyone out there is connected to either William or Mary, I'd love to hear from you. In exchange, I can provide a lot of information about Elizabeth and her descendancy. And even if not, Happy New Year to the rest of you! Dave in frigid northern Illinois

Hi All: Thomas was born 3 Jul 1818 in Sheffield, baptized 27 Dec 1818 in the Sheffield Parish Church, and died 11 Apr 1893 in Sheffield. He was the son of George and Maria (formerly RODGER, a widow when they married). Thomas was a Razorsmith. His father George was a Silversmith/Scissorsmith. Thomas married Priscilla COGGIN 13 Aug 1838 in the Sheffield Parish Church. Priscilla died 5 Sep 1850. Subsequently, Thomas married Elizabeth HAZLEWOOD in 1868 at St Jude, Eldon, Sheffield. Prior to Priscilla's death (well, it hardly could be afterwards!) they had 3 children: William (possible birth registration Sep 1/4 1838 Ecclesall Bierlow) Elizabeth (born 16 Oct 1841) Mary (possible birth registration Mar 1/4 1848 Ecclesall Bierlow) If anyone out there is connected to either William or Mary, I'd love to hear from you. In exchange, I can provide a lot of information about Elizabeth and her descendancy. And even if not, Happy New Year to the rest of you! Dave in frigid northern Illinois

Dear all, I had hoped to be able to post a last update of the YKS Surnames List for 2009 or at least to start 2010 with a bang. Unfortunately, bang it was, in the form of a sudden, unexpected thunderstorm with two hits, one after the other, very, very close to my house last week. You guessed it! Goodbye modem and Broadband connection. My son kindly lent me his dongle connection, but it is far too weak for me to use to update the list online. To make matters worse, my computer guru is on holiday until Tuesday and I am off to Rome, on work, on Wednesday, so I will be unable to update the list before the 12th of this month. Many thanks to all you have send me corrections and/or submissions for their patience. Keep on sending them, they are safely kept until I can get to them. Well, that was one way to send 2009 on its way! In meantime, I would like to wish everyone my very best for the New Year and a 2010 full of love, health, wealth and much happiness. Magdalena List Administrator for the YKS Surnames List -- MAGDALENA GORRELL GUIMARAENS Member of Council for the Portugal Region AIIC - International Association of Conference Interpreters m.gorrell@aiic.net http://www.mgorrell.eu

-----Original Message----- From: Jane Taylor [mailto:janetaylor21@ntlworld.com] Sent: 01 January 2010 19:15 To: 'DERBYSGEN-L@rootsweb.com' Subject: Strays Dear all, While transcribing for FreeREG found the following which may or may not help someone. All Welbourn, Lincolnshire. William GRAVES buried 21 Nov 1875 age 28. Abode Gotham, Derby Ann BROWN buried 26 Jan 1876 age 75. Abode Southwell Harriet Ann CANHAM buried 19 Dec 1878. Abode Sheffield. All the best to everyone. Jane in Redcar

Hello Judy, You may remember that we had some correspondence about this grave a few years ago. Gwendoline Marguerite is buried in grave G1131 with her parents. I was of the opinion that there was no gravestone on this grave, but that area has not yet been thoroughly surveyed so I could be wrong - I remember that you thought there had been a memorial. I will have a closer look at the area in the new year. Meanwhile I will be away from tomorrow until Monday. Hugh ----- Original Message ----- From: <jjupar@aol.com> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 2:11 PM Subject: [SHEFF] Walkley Cemetery > Hi, > > Can anyone tell me if any MIs hav e been done for Walkley Cemetery. My > grandparents are buried there but I wondered if they had anyone else in > the > grave. > > Their names are John Henry Parry b.1857 and d.1929. His wife was Sarah > Hannah Parry b.1861 and d.1950. > > JUDY ELKINGTON > [N. Derbyshire, England] > > www.elkingtonfamily.com > ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com > www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Hi, Thank you for this!.................I should have done this myself, after a break for 4 years I had completely forgotten about FreeBMB. Will keep the Sheffield one in mind! Regards Jeremy Crawshaw ----Original Message---- From: gen2mail@googlemail.com Date: 28/12/2009 22:51 To: "privates@tiscali.co.uk"<privates@tiscali.co.uk> Cc: <eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com> Subj: Re: [SHEFF] Marriage Records - St Nicholas, Bradfield (HORSFIELD) You might find some help on the FreeBMD, Marriages for December quarter 1845 include Harriet EADON and William HORSFIELD at Sheffield RD vol 22 p582 also Dec 1846 William HORSFIELD and Harriet/Harriett/Harriot POOL at Wakefield RD vol 22 p636 Either one could of course be of interest to you. JK On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 6:51 PM, privates@tiscali.co.uk <privates@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: Hi Everyone, After approximately a 4 year break from Family History (and this list) I’m keen to get going again so wondered if anyone has access to any marriage records for St. Nicolas Church, Bradfield, if so could they please do a look-up for me? I’m trying to find the marriage of some 3rd G.Grandparents that I believe would have married there, the names are William HORSFIELD and Harriet (--?--). William was born 15th December 1815 and was a Spring Knife Cutler and Harriet was born c1823. Their first child (that I know about) was Thomas born c1846 so I’m assuming that they may have married around 1844-1846. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I no longer live in Sheffield and can’t get to Bradfield Archives to see Malcolm Nunn. Regards Jeremy Crawshaw Bournemouth, Dorset 2009: A year in review - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/2009

You might find some help on the FreeBMD, Marriages for December quarter 1845 include Harriet EADON and William HORSFIELD at Sheffield RD vol 22 p582 also Dec 1846 William HORSFIELD and Harriet/Harriett/Harriot POOL at Wakefield RD vol 22 p636 Either one could of course be of interest to you. JK On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 6:51 PM, privates@tiscali.co.uk < privates@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > After approximately a 4 year break from Family History (and this list) > I’m keen to get going again so wondered if anyone has access to any > marriage records for St. Nicolas Church, Bradfield, if so could they > please do a look-up for me? > > I’m trying to find the marriage of some 3rd G.Grandparents that I > believe would have married there, the names are William HORSFIELD and > Harriet (--?--). William was born 15th December 1815 and was a Spring > Knife Cutler and Harriet was born c1823. Their first child (that I know > about) was Thomas born c1846 so I’m assuming that they may have married > around 1844-1846. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated as I no longer live in Sheffield > and can’t get to Bradfield Archives to see Malcolm Nunn. > > Regards > > Jeremy Crawshaw > Bournemouth, Dorset > >

Hi Everyone, After approximately a 4 year break from Family History (and this list) I’m keen to get going again so wondered if anyone has access to any marriage records for St. Nicolas Church, Bradfield, if so could they please do a look-up for me? I’m trying to find the marriage of some 3rd G.Grandparents that I believe would have married there, the names are William HORSFIELD and Harriet (--?--). William was born 15th December 1815 and was a Spring Knife Cutler and Harriet was born c1823. Their first child (that I know about) was Thomas born c1846 so I’m assuming that they may have married around 1844-1846. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I no longer live in Sheffield and can’t get to Bradfield Archives to see Malcolm Nunn. Regards Jeremy Crawshaw Bournemouth, Dorset 2009: A year in review - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/2009

In a message dated 28/12/2009 15:51:12 GMT Standard Time, trayford@rogers.com writes: Yes they have and Hugh Waterhouse was in charge of it. If you post who you are looking for we might be able to help Quote >>Can anyone tell me if any MIs hav e been done for Walkley Cemetery. My grandparents are buried there but I wondered if they had anyone else in the grave. Their names are John Henry Parry b.1857 and d.1929. His wife was Sarah Hannah Parry b.1861 and d.1950. << Hi Elaine, I did post originally the names I wan ted and also to knowe if there was anyone else in the grave. Of cowries other family members may already be buried there or even since but I wanted to know. They had a daughter Gwendoline Marguerite Parry born in 1901 who died 10 months later. I think she is in a different Cemetery at Crookes as her entry is in St. Thomas's Crookes an d not St. Mary's Walkley but I would like ton know which churchyard she was buried in. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Hi Judy, Yes they have and Hugh Waterhouse was in charge of it. If you post who you are looking for we might be able to help. Elaine Pickard Sheffield Indexers Site Admin. www.SheffieldIndexers.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <jjupar@aol.com> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD@rootsweb.com> Sent: December 28, 2009 9:11 AM Subject: [SHEFF] Walkley Cemetery > Hi, > > Can anyone tell me if any MIs hav e been done for Walkley Cemetery. My > grandparents are buried there but I wondered if they had anyone else in > the > grave. > > Their names are John Henry Parry b.1857 and d.1929. His wife was Sarah > Hannah Parry b.1861 and d.1950. > > JUDY ELKINGTON > [N. Derbyshire, England] > > www.elkingtonfamily.com > ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com > www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Can anyone tell me if any MIs hav e been done for Walkley Cemetery. My grandparents are buried there but I wondered if they had anyone else in the grave. Their names are John Henry Parry b.1857 and d.1929. His wife was Sarah Hannah Parry b.1861 and d.1950. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

All, many thanks to all who responded to my question. We can blame the transcriber as who ever it was gave the GREATOREX family the same name as the family next door. ie; GREAVES No wonder I was going round the bend!! Mike Greatorex Harrogate, England Looking for all Greatorex's from North Nottinghamshire, Sheffield, Orange Co, NY, USA, Florida and Alabamha, USA. http://www.freewebs.com/greatorexfamily/

Am going round in increasingly small circles looking for a particular entry in the 1871 Census for Sheffield. I have the source details etc, see below. 1871 UK Census Chester Street RG10/4668 Folios 85, 96 55 Chester Street, Sheffield. William Greatorex (Head)age 42 occ: Publican born Nottinghamshire, England Ann Greatorex age 41 occ none, born Yorkshire George Greatorex age 15 occ, Scholar William Christopher age 12 occ, Scholar John Henry age 9 occ, Scholar Florence Ann age 1 However, I am trying to find them again on Ancestry.co.uk so as to attach them to my family tree on Ancestry. However for the life of me I cannot find them and unlike FreeBmd you cannot put the source information in to help your search. I've tried every which way including going thru the Ecclesall Bierlow districts with no luck though I note that District 7 is not available on Ancestry. Knowing my luck, what I am looking for will be in that district. I've also tried many variations/corruptions of the name but still with no luck. Can anyone help? Mike Greatorex Harrogate, England Looking for all Greatorex's from North Nottinghamshire, Sheffield, Orange Co, NY, USA, Florida and Alabamha, USA. http://www.freewebs.com/greatorexfamily/

Have you tried looking for one of the families listed above them or below them? If you can find them that way, maybe you can e-mail ancestry about a correction. DeAnne Rosen On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Mike Greatorex < mgreato@jmgreatorex.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Am going round in increasingly small circles looking for a particular entry > in the > 1871 Census for Sheffield. I have the source details etc, see below. > > 1871 UK Census Chester Street RG10/4668 Folios 85, 96 > 55 Chester Street, Sheffield. > William Greatorex (Head)age 42 occ: Publican born Nottinghamshire, England > Ann Greatorex age 41 occ none, born Yorkshire > George Greatorex age 15 occ, Scholar > William Christopher age 12 occ, Scholar > John Henry age 9 occ, Scholar > Florence Ann age 1 > > However, I am trying to find them again on Ancestry.co.uk so as to attach > them to > my family tree on Ancestry. However for the life of me I cannot find them > and unlike > FreeBmd you cannot put the source information in to help your search. > I've tried every which way including going thru the Ecclesall Bierlow > districts with no > luck though I note that District 7 is not available on Ancestry. Knowing my > luck, what > I am looking for will be in that district. I've also tried many > variations/corruptions of > the name but still with no luck. > Can anyone help? > > Mike Greatorex > Harrogate, England > Looking for all Greatorex's from North Nottinghamshire, Sheffield, Orange > Co, NY, USA, Florida and Alabamha, USA. > http://www.freewebs.com/greatorexfamily/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Mike The family has actually been indexed on Ancestry as Greaves [same as the family next door] and the actual references are RG10/4678 Folio 6B Page 6 Schedule 33 - will send you a copy off list. Best Regards Karen Lightowler Doncaster, South Yorkshire Researching the Sheffield Flood _http://stores.lulu.com/store.php?fAcctID=707305_ (http://stores.lulu.com/store.php?fAcctID=707305) Am going round in increasingly small circles looking for a particular entry in the 1871 Census for Sheffield. I have the source details etc, see below. 1871 UK Census Chester Street RG10/4668 Folios 85, 96 55 Chester Street, Sheffield. William Greatorex (Head)age 42 occ: Publican born Nottinghamshire, England Ann Greatorex age 41 occ none, born Yorkshire George Greatorex age 15 occ, Scholar William Christopher age 12 occ, Scholar John Henry age 9 occ, Scholar Florence Ann age 1 However, I am trying to find them again on Ancestry.co.uk so as to attach them to my family tree on Ancestry. However for the life of me I cannot find them and unlike FreeBmd you cannot put the source information in to help your search. I've tried every which way including going thru the Ecclesall Bierlow districts with no luck though I note that District 7 is not available on Ancestry. Knowing my luck, what I am looking for will be in that district. I've also tried many variations/corruptions of the name but still with no luck. Can anyone help? Mike Greatorex Harrogate, England Looking for all Greatorex's from North Nottinghamshire, Sheffield, Orange Co, NY, USA, Florida and Alabamha, USA. http://www.freewebs.com/greatorexfamily/

Dear All, May I wish you all a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Thank you to all those who have helped me this year. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England Goons Mem.No; 4052 www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Many many thanks to everyone who replied to my request for help with deciphering an address on a marriage certificate. There were so many who were good enough to respond. Quite a few suggested Highfields and I think thats what it is as it is close to where the other party was living on Suffolk Road. I havent scanned the image in yet, been out all day today to my grandsons nativity play, but I will be doing as I want to send it to a couple of other researchers. Thank you again to all June Chatterton A Sheffielder for 57 years UK Tracing family names of BENSON/BENNISON, BRADFORD, FIELDSEND, GILLESPIE and variants, HAWLEY, KENN(E)Y, LEMONS & MITCHELL www.junechatterton@blueyonder.co.uk

> > How about placing this part of your family tree on Tribal Pages where > others > who are researching the line can find or be directed to it. > > The Site is free by the way......... > > Elaine in Ottawa. what/where are tribal pages please. cheers shawn

Hope this helps others. Elaine in Ottawa. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elaine Pickard" <trayford@rogers.com> To: "Jane Magill" <jmagill@suddenlink.net> Sent: December 14, 2009 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Oakes data > Hi Jane, > > http://www.tribalpages.com/ > > If you need any further help just let me know..... > > I admin a site especially for Sheffield which you might find helpful... > also free. > > Sheffield Indexers. > The URL is in my signature. > > Elaine Pickard > Sheffield Indexers Site Admin. > www.SheffieldIndexers.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane Magill" <jmagill@suddenlink.net> > To: <trayford@rogers.com> > Sent: December 14, 2009 5:25 PM > Subject: Oakes data > > >> Hi Elaine, >> Thanks for the information. What is Tribal Pages and please let me know >> how to put the data from the Oakes genealogy on it? I want to make it >> available to anyone who wants it and am just not sure how to go about it. >> >> Jane Magill >> Bryan, TX >