Hello I am back on the trail of my ever elusive 3 x great grandfather Charles Jeffcock (also known as Charles Walker) who was born up to 9 months after 15 December 1831. I have in my possession a copy of a Warranty of Bastardy before Birth which reads Mary Walker of Hunshelf has declared herself to be with child and that the said child is likely to be born a bastard and to be chargeable to the township of Hunshelf in the West Riding of Yorkshire. She goes on to name Samuel Jefcock of Attercliffe in the said Riding who is a Labourer as the father and a warrant is issued for the apprehending of the said Samuel Jeffcock for him to be brought before the Justice of the Peace at a later stage. I have tried to follow the trail to see if Samuel was apprehended but have found nothing. Not even a registration in a parish register for the child born to Mary Walker. However I have found who I believe to be Mary Walker on the 1841 census now listed as Mary Jeffcock, with a son Charles aged 8 and a son George aged 5. Charles and George dates and places of birth all fit in with my 3 x great grandfather and his brothers details who I have found in subsequent census. However on the 1841 census Samuel is missing and by 1851 Mary Jeffcock has become Mary Tether and is living in Leeds with her son George and new partner John Tether of Worksop. I have also found Charles living in Leeds too in 1851 a couple of streets away from Mary. Also on the 1861 census Charles is listed as Charles Walker living in Sheffield and is listed as grandson on the head of the household a lady by the name of Ann Walker who I believe to be Mary's mother. Does anyone have any suggestions as to where to look for the birth of Charles which as I said would have been after the 15 December 1831. Also where to look for a possible marriage of Samuel Jeffcock to Mary Walker. And if possible Mary's subsequent possible married to John Tether. I wondered if Samuel was every apprehended and they married? Any help and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks Karen Beasley

I am sending this again as I did not see it come on the list yesterday Hello JK, I am looking for any clues that will link them to Rotherham where they are from. The bride, Mary KENT, if mine, was born 1817, so just on 20yrs. I'm keeping my fingers crossed becaus this is the first sighting of John SORSBY since his first wife died in 1836. There is no sign of John in the 1841 census (nor any other census) Mary is there with 3 children , the eldest born 1838, which would fit with the marriage. Unfortunately the 1841 census does not give the married , widowed etc status of the adults, and Mary Sorsby (Kent) died in 1847 Regards, Jean ---------------------------------------------------------------- Don't believe fathers' names are included in parish registers at this time, unless bride or groom is a minor (under 21 years of age) JK

In a message dated 18/04/2010 11:29:17 GMT Daylight Time, maureenpontefhs@aol.com writes: that part of message was insensitive of me to post, didn't think about the folk who went through it all, Hi, Don't give it a thought I am still here to tell the tale. When you start looking at Methuselah as a brother, then you know you have arrived. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

sorry Judy, that part of message was insensitive of me to post, didn't think about the folk who went through it all, plesae forgive me, Maureen (Pontefract) BAGGAN/BAGGIN & PONSONBY interests in Sheffield -----Original Message----- Over the next week there are two other TV series that you might find interesting. The Beauty of Maps is a 4-part series that will be showing at 8.30pm on BBC4 from Monday to Thursday; following on at 9pm on Monday is the first part of a Channel 4 series called Blitz Street in which a row of terraced houses specially built for the series is torn apart by a series of explosions that recreate the trauma of the Blitz. Hi, Nothin g can create the terror of hearing bombs whistle down and the hope that you are not next. I am sure the programme will be great for those that didn't suffer these traumas, but as a child who lived through the blitz in Sheffield, I shall be giving this one a miss. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

In a message dated 18/04/2010 08:57:07 GMT Daylight Time, maureenpontefhs@aol.com writes: Over the next week there are two other TV series that you might find interesting (I'll certainly be recording them so that I can view them at my leisure). The Beauty of Maps is a 4-part series that will be showing at 8.30pm on BBC4 from Monday to Thursday; following on at 9pm on Monday is the first part of a Channel 4 series called Blitz Street in which a row of terraced houses specially built for the series is torn apart by a series of explosions that recreate the trauma of the Blitz. Hi, Nothin g can create the terror of hearing bombs whistle down and the hope that you are not next. I am sure the programme will be great for those that didn't suffer these traumas, but as a child who lived through the blitz in Sheffield, I shall be giving this one a miss. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Just read this on the Lostcousins site, thought some members in UK would be interested: WDYTYA? US series to air in the UK Whilst we've had 5 years to enjoy Who Do You Think You are? in Britain, it was only this spring that a US series began on NBC. It's now been revealed that 4 of the episodes will be shown on BBC One, starting on April 25. Ancestry sponsors the series in the US - it will be interesting to see whether this aspect of the programme is airbrushed out when it is shown on public television in the UK. TV programmes to look out for Over the next week there are two other TV series that you might find interesting (I'll certainly be recording them so that I can view them at my leisure). The Beauty of Maps is a 4-part series that will be showing at 8.30pm on BBC4 from Monday to Thursday; following on at 9pm on Monday is the first part of a Channel 4 series called Blitz Street in which a row of terraced houses specially built for the series is torn apart by a series of explosions that recreate the trauma of the Blitz. Maureen

Hello List, I wonder if anyone has access to the Parish church marriages in Sheffield for 1837.? In browsing through the Sheffield Independent (on line) I have found John SORSBY marrying Mary KENT at the Parish Church on April 19th 1837. I need to know the fathers names to see if I have the right John SORSBY, and because it's before civil registration I cannot send for the certificate. I have been searching for John SORSBY for some time now. He disappears by 1841 and no death has yet come up. Regards, Jean in Saddleworth

Hi Maureen, Thank you for your kind comments re "Sheffield Indexers". A much loved & used site by many Sheffield researchers. Now to answer your questions. Robert Ponsonby's burial information I obtained from the CD by SDFHS on Church of England Burials. The project I believe was part of the NBI. It is an Index and not like our full transcriptions for other cemeteries. So you would need to look at the burial registers for St Thomas, Brightside.......but they didn't usually put much more. Have you checked on FreeBMD for John's marriage it looks as if it took place in Sheffield in 1844 Harriet Thompson. Hope this helps. Elaine Pickard Sheffield Indexers Site Admin. www.SheffieldIndexers.com ----- Original Message ----- From: maureenpontefhs@aol.com To: trayford@rogers.com ; eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com Sent: April 15, 2010 5:52 AM Subject: Re: [SHEFF] ROBERT PONSONBY 1826 - 1882 ( BAGGAN/BAGGIN help too ) THANK YOU so much Elaine, for finding my 3xgreat grandfather. Can I ask where & why the ? is the site not letting you have full details. Would I be able to search where you found him, for my BAGGAN/BAGGINs. I had always thought JOHN BAGGAN & his brother (both born in Pontefract) had lost their parents, as they were on their own on the 1841 in Pontefract, but could not find their deaths. JOHN (b.1822) stayed in Pontefract & raised seven daughters, but couldn't find his marriage. His brother disappeared too, not on the 1851 in Pontefract, later found him in Sheffield too, widowed with children. Your site www.SheffieldIndexers.com is where I found their parents, with more children in 1841 so did more checking & found JOHN & HARRIET (THOMPSON from Lincoln) had married in Sheffield. So I must congratulate you on a super website, must go back & see what has been added, thank you again, Maureen -----Original Message----- From: Elaine Pickard <trayford@rogers.com> To: eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com; maureenpontefhs@aol.com Sent: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 0:43 Subject: Re: [SHEFF] ROBERT PONSONBY 1826 - 1882 ( BAGGAN/BAGGIN help too ) Hi Maureen, I believe this is Robert. PONSONBY, Robert (, died on ?, at the age of 56). Resided at Brightside and buried on 7 May 1882 in ? ground, . Grave Number ?, Section ? of St. Thomas's, Brightside Cemetery, Sheffield. Hope this helps. Elaine Pickard Sheffield Indexers Site Admin. www.SheffieldIndexers.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <maureenpontefhs@aol.com> > > > hiya all, > > I'm looking for any help with ROBERT PONSONBY born circa 1826 in Bakewell, > Derby. > > He was in Blackburn Rd. Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield with wife MARY on > the 1881 Census, > a Boltsmith (Whitesmith 1861 Bakewell & Blacksmith 1871 Settle) he died > the next year > (June quarter 1882) in Sheffield. Has anyone come across him, where do you > think he > worked, or was buried? > > ROBERT PONSONBY married MARY HALL in Manchester Catherdral 1847, > they moved to Cardiff, Wales where their only child HARRY was born 1856 > HARRY married in Pontefract 1879 stayed & raised 13 children with wife > HARRIET > BAGGAN. Her grandparents moved from Pontefract to Sheffield to live had > more > children, so also looking for any help with BAGGAN or BAGGIN sometimes > spelt. > > thank you so much, > Maureen

Hi all, Found this today. 12 apr 1869 St Peter an St Paul church Algarkirk. Henry BINGHAM age 23 bachelor, Razor smith, abode Sheffield married Emma LEEDALE 22, spinster, abode Algarkirk. Groom's father Henry BINGHAM, razor smith. Bride's father Richard LEEDALE, farmer. Jane in Redcar

Hi Maureen, I believe this is Robert. PONSONBY, Robert (, died on ?, at the age of 56). Resided at Brightside and buried on 7 May 1882 in ? ground, . Grave Number ?, Section ? of St. Thomas's, Brightside Cemetery, Sheffield. Hope this helps. Elaine Pickard Sheffield Indexers Site Admin. www.SheffieldIndexers.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <maureenpontefhs@aol.com> To: <eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com> Sent: April 11, 2010 3:51 PM Subject: [SHEFF] ROBERT PONSONBY 1826 - 1882 ( BAGGAN/BAGGIN help too ) > > > hiya all, > > I'm looking for any help with ROBERT PONSONBY born circa 1826 in Bakewell, > Derby. > > He was in Blackburn Rd. Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield with wife MARY on > the 1881 Census, > a Boltsmith (Whitesmith 1861 Bakewell & Blacksmith 1871 Settle) he died > the next year > (June quarter 1882) in Sheffield. Has anyone come across him, where do you > think he > worked, or was buried? > > ROBERT PONSONBY married MARY HALL in Manchester Catherdral 1847, > they moved to Cardiff, Wales where their only child HARRY was born 1856 > HARRY married in Pontefract 1879 stayed & raised 13 children with wife > HARRIET > BAGGAN. Her grandparents moved from Pontefract to Sheffield to live had > more > children, so also looking for any help with BAGGAN or BAGGIN sometimes > spelt. > > thank you so much, > Maureen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hiya all, I'm looking for any help with ROBERT PONSONBY born circa 1826 in Bakewell, Derby. He was in Blackburn Rd. Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield with wife MARY on the 1881 Census, a Boltsmith (Whitesmith 1861 Bakewell & Blacksmith 1871 Settle) he died the next year (June quarter 1882) in Sheffield. Has anyone come across him, where do you think he worked, or was buried? ROBERT PONSONBY married MARY HALL in Manchester Catherdral 1847, they moved to Cardiff, Wales where their only child HARRY was born 1856 HARRY married in Pontefract 1879 stayed & raised 13 children with wife HARRIET BAGGAN. Her grandparents moved from Pontefract to Sheffield to live had more children, so also looking for any help with BAGGAN or BAGGIN sometimes spelt. thank you so much, Maureen

hello, my great, great grandfather HARRY PONSONBY died in No1 Paradise Gardens, Pontefract 1925 He was the only child of ROBERT PONSONBY & MARY nee HALL both of Bakewell, Derby. They married in Manchester 1847, moved to Cardiff, Wales where HARRY was born 1856, back to Bakewell 1861, 1871 they had moved to Settle, 1881 parents were in Sheffield but HARRY was in Pontefract. He was the first in Pontefract or the area with name PONSONBY, so I can say all local PONSONBYs are my relatives, so please get in touch. ROBERT died in Sheffield 1882, then MARY came to Pontefract where she died 1898 HARRY married a local girl HARRIET BAGGAN 1879, they stayed in Pontefract & had 13 children, so very different to his parents. I found these three websites & thought other listers may be interested too...................... http://www.judandk.force9.co.uk/workhouse.html http://www.pontefractus.co.uk/memories/pontefract-workhouse-amilner.htm http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?Pontefract/Pontefract.shtml Best wishes, Maureen http://www.francisfrith.com/pontefract/photos/ http://www.geograph.org.uk/ http://www.churches-uk-ireland.org/ www.twixtaireandcalder.org.uk thousands of photos on these two links www.wakefieldmuseums.org www.pontefractandcastlefordexpress.co.uk local paper http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/gallery/main.php www.aroundtownpublications.co.uk http://www.wakefield.gov.uk/CommunityAndLiving/CemeteriesAndCrematoria/GenealogySearches/default.htm http://www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk/ http://www.experiencewakefield.co.uk/information/thedms.aspx?dms=13&venue=2190738 http://www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk/ http://www.experiencewakefield.co.uk/information/thedms.aspx?dms=13&venue=2190738 http://www.judandk.force9.co.uk/workhouse.html http://www.pontefractus.co.uk/memories/pontefract-workhouse-amilner.htm http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?Pontefract/Pontefract.shtml Best wishes, Maureen http://www.francisfrith.com/pontefract/photos/ http://www.geograph.org.uk/ http://www.churches-uk-ireland.org/ www.twixtaireandcalder.org.uk thousands of photos on these two links www.wakefieldmuseums.org www.pontefractandcastlefordexpress.co.uk local paper http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/gallery/main.php www.aroundtownpublications.co.uk http://www.wakefield.gov.uk/CommunityAndLiving/CemeteriesAndCrematoria/GenealogySearches/default.htm http://www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk/ http://www.experiencewakefield.co.uk/information/thedms.aspx?dms=13&venue=2190738 http://www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk/ http://www.experiencewakefield.co.uk/information/thedms.aspx?dms=13&venue=2190738

Hi All, Could anyone help me with the following please. A) Where abouts in Tinsley these houses were located.I am presuming a row of 'better' terraced houses as occupations in 1905 were generally managers. B) Are they still standing? Many thanks in anticipation. Jane in Redcar

Hi Jane, If they were there on the 1901 census you can find out exactly were the street was from checking St's before and after their entry. If not if you can give us a name we will look for you. Elaine Pickard Sheffield Indexers Site Admin. www.SheffieldIndexers.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Taylor" <janetaylor21@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: April 11, 2010 9:07 AM Subject: [SHEFF] Penn Park Villas Tinsley > Hi All, > > Could anyone help me with the following please. > > A) Where abouts in Tinsley these houses were located.I am presuming a > row of 'better' terraced houses as occupations in 1905 were generally > managers. > > B) Are they still standing? > > > > Many thanks in anticipation. > > Jane in Redcar > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gooday Bev and the list, Yes the other names you gave me with the mother's maiden name as ARGENT would all be part of the same family as I am aware of 13 children. I even have some pictures of a few of them outside the munition huts at Tinsley. Here's hoping they will belong to someone's tree somewhere and I can find out more about them. Thanks for the reply Alan According to 1911 census there was also an Elsie and ?? Ernest Also are any of these yours mothers maiden name was argent Leonard Jeffery Apr May Jun 1916 Sheffield Yorkshire View Record Leslie Jeffery Apr May Jun 1920 Rotherham Yorkshire View Record Frank Jeffery Jan Feb Mar 1922 Rotherham Yorkshire View Record Clifford Jeffery Jul Aug Sep 1924 Rotherham Yorkshire Bev

Gooday All, I have previously sent a couple of mails re George Jeffery born 1880 in Sheffield and have found out more info which may help turn up some more family members. George was born to Charles Jeffery (from Woodditton Cam) and Elizabeth Shepherd (born Blast Lane) in 1880. They had 13 children and in 1925 lived at Tinsley in the Munition Huts. Some of their children were Charles henry Jeffery who married a Fanny Cotton in Rotherham in 1927 and their offspring were Kenneth Jeffery born 1927, Kathleen Jeffery born 1929 and Pauline B Jeffery born 1931 Harold Jeffery who married Catherine Gorman in 1928 and their offspring were Thelma Jeffery born 1928 William Jeffery who married Ellen Picton in 1930/1 and offspring were William E Jeffery born 1931 and Pearl O Jeffery born 1933 Hilda Jeffery who married Arthur HUTTON in 1934 in Rotherham and offspring were Margaret Hutton born 1934, Frances Hutton born 1936 and Charles E hutton born 1941 Doris Jeffery who married Walter Scott in 1929 but I have no details of any issue at this time. Margery Jeffery who married George Newton in 1935 again no details of any issue. Also I am still trying to find out more about a Nellie Jeffery who became The Yorkshire Nightingale and had a stage name of Nellie Blye and at some point married a Connolly as I have a picture of her NHS card with Mrs Connolly on it and it was dates 1946. This information I got from the historical house in Charleville western Queensland (where my daughter and family lives). I will await some positive replies and maybe do some catching up later this year when I will in UK for a couple of months. Thanks Alan Jeffery on the Sunshine Coast inn SE Queensland OZ

That address is not listed in 1911 or 1919 directories. There are volumes closer to the right date in Sheffield Local Studies Library (and presumably in Rotherham) so it may be possible to make progress later. Hugh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz" <e.newbery@btinternet.com> To: "Hugh Waterhouse" <dalum@blueyonder.co.uk>; <eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [SHEFF] Birth Certificate - confirmation and Midland RoadRotherham > Thank you Hugh. > Yes, the name is Edgar John REYNOLDS and the number of the house was 47. > > I don't know how long they were in the area - his father was John William > REYNOLDS born 2Q 1887 in Rotherham (waiting for certificate...might be a > month!) but died in Birmingham. > > John William's father was John Charles REYNOLDS born Masborough 1856 > married to Elizabeth FOX born 1854 Masborough he was a Closet Service Box > Fitter...ie fitted loos!!. > > Back another generation we come to William REYNOLDS c.1832 at Dalton. He > was a Spade Finisher and later on in life, a labourer on roads. > > Thank you. > Liz > www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery > OPC for Street, Somerset > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hugh Waterhouse" <dalum@blueyonder.co.uk> > To: <eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 5:42 PM > Subject: Re: [SHEFF] Birth Certificate - confirmation and Midland > RoadRotherham > > >> Swinton and Mexborough are both to the northeast of Rotherham. >> >> The only Midland Road in Rotherham district in White's 1919/20 directory >> was >> in Masbro', which is to the northwest of the town. >> >> If you can give us a house number and the father's name/occupation we >> might >> be able to link it to the right street through documents which include >> addresses: directories, burial records etc. >> >> 'C.B.' is, I assume, County Borough. The exact titles of administrative >> districts were often unwieldy, particularly when the upstart towns took >> on >> powers previously belonging to counties. I don't think it's important. >> >> Hugh >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Liz" <e.newbery@btinternet.com> >> To: <eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:40 PM >> Subject: [SHEFF] Birth Certificate - confirmation and Midland Road >> Rotherham >> >> >>>I have recently received a couple of Death Certificates from the GRO >>>which >>> had typing errors on them, I am getting very frustrated by them >>> especially >>> now they have put the prices up. I think they have taken on temporary >>> staff >>> to catch up with the backlog. >>> >>> This Birth Certificate has taken over a month to reach me and I'm not >>> convinced they have the right information there, please can someone >>> advise. >>> >>> My concern is that it says: >>> 1914 Birth in the Sub-district of N.W. Rotherham in the County of >>> Rotherham >>> C.B. >>> >>> My question is: >>> Why should it say "County of Rotherham C.B."? Is this an error? >>> >>> Secondly, I see there are two Midland Roads - one Mexborough and the >>> other >>> Swinton One is S61 (Mexborough) and the other S64 (near Swinton railway >>> station). How can I tell which one would be correct in 1914? >>> >>> Liz >>> www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery >>> OPC for Street, Somerset >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

Thank you Hugh. Yes, the name is Edgar John REYNOLDS and the number of the house was 47. I don't know how long they were in the area - his father was John William REYNOLDS born 2Q 1887 in Rotherham (waiting for certificate...might be a month!) but died in Birmingham. John William's father was John Charles REYNOLDS born Masborough 1856 married to Elizabeth FOX born 1854 Masborough he was a Closet Service Box Fitter...ie fitted loos!!. Back another generation we come to William REYNOLDS c.1832 at Dalton. He was a Spade Finisher and later on in life, a labourer on roads. Thank you. Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Waterhouse" <dalum@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [SHEFF] Birth Certificate - confirmation and Midland RoadRotherham > Swinton and Mexborough are both to the northeast of Rotherham. > > The only Midland Road in Rotherham district in White's 1919/20 directory > was > in Masbro', which is to the northwest of the town. > > If you can give us a house number and the father's name/occupation we > might > be able to link it to the right street through documents which include > addresses: directories, burial records etc. > > 'C.B.' is, I assume, County Borough. The exact titles of administrative > districts were often unwieldy, particularly when the upstart towns took on > powers previously belonging to counties. I don't think it's important. > > Hugh > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Liz" <e.newbery@btinternet.com> > To: <eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:40 PM > Subject: [SHEFF] Birth Certificate - confirmation and Midland Road > Rotherham > > >>I have recently received a couple of Death Certificates from the GRO which >> had typing errors on them, I am getting very frustrated by them >> especially >> now they have put the prices up. I think they have taken on temporary >> staff >> to catch up with the backlog. >> >> This Birth Certificate has taken over a month to reach me and I'm not >> convinced they have the right information there, please can someone >> advise. >> >> My concern is that it says: >> 1914 Birth in the Sub-district of N.W. Rotherham in the County of >> Rotherham >> C.B. >> >> My question is: >> Why should it say "County of Rotherham C.B."? Is this an error? >> >> Secondly, I see there are two Midland Roads - one Mexborough and the >> other >> Swinton One is S61 (Mexborough) and the other S64 (near Swinton railway >> station). How can I tell which one would be correct in 1914? >> >> Liz >> www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery >> OPC for Street, Somerset >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Swinton and Mexborough are both to the northeast of Rotherham. The only Midland Road in Rotherham district in White's 1919/20 directory was in Masbro', which is to the northwest of the town. If you can give us a house number and the father's name/occupation we might be able to link it to the right street through documents which include addresses: directories, burial records etc. 'C.B.' is, I assume, County Borough. The exact titles of administrative districts were often unwieldy, particularly when the upstart towns took on powers previously belonging to counties. I don't think it's important. Hugh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz" <e.newbery@btinternet.com> To: <eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:40 PM Subject: [SHEFF] Birth Certificate - confirmation and Midland Road Rotherham >I have recently received a couple of Death Certificates from the GRO which > had typing errors on them, I am getting very frustrated by them especially > now they have put the prices up. I think they have taken on temporary > staff > to catch up with the backlog. > > This Birth Certificate has taken over a month to reach me and I'm not > convinced they have the right information there, please can someone > advise. > > My concern is that it says: > 1914 Birth in the Sub-district of N.W. Rotherham in the County of > Rotherham > C.B. > > My question is: > Why should it say "County of Rotherham C.B."? Is this an error? > > Secondly, I see there are two Midland Roads - one Mexborough and the other > Swinton One is S61 (Mexborough) and the other S64 (near Swinton railway > station). How can I tell which one would be correct in 1914? > > Liz > www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery > OPC for Street, Somerset > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No Jane - they are photocopies BUT there is writing at the top which is done when you order the certificate. It is this writing which can be incorrect. 1. I received a certificate which referred to the Birth as in BEAMINSTER which is in Dorset whereas it was in BEDMINSTER which was in Somerset. The photocopied part of the Certificate was quite accurate but the typing at the top was incorrect. 2 I received a certificate which quite clearly gave the year of Birth at 1842 but across the top where it is typed it said 1862. I had ordered the correct certificate which was 1842. This Certificate I am talking about now was 13th May 1914 at 47 Midland Road, U.D. (which I know means Urban District) but the typed section across the top says "in the County of Rotherham C.B." This is typed by the person when the application was made at least 6 weeks ago. Check on your certificates and you will see what I mean. As I now have over 200 Certificates I certainly know what to expect. On FreeBMD it quite clearly states "The district Rotherham spans the boundaries of the counties of Derbyshire, South Yorkshire and West Riding of Yorkshire; information about it can be found here." As far as I'm aware there has never been a County of Rotherham!!!!! Liz www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery OPC for Street, Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Taylor" <janetaylor21@ntlworld.com> To: "'Liz'" <e.newbery@btinternet.com> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 5:28 PM Subject: RE: [SHEFF] Birth Certificate - confirmation and Midland Road Rotherham > Hi there, > I regularly order from GRO and every one I have received over the last > year > has been a photocopy of the original. I only get hand written or typed > ones > from the local (individual registrar office). Perhaps others may be able > to > confirm? Sure it doesn't say U.B.? urban Borough? Just a thought... > Jane in Redcar