Hi Listers Is anyone related to "Bronco" Lane who was a Sheffield Wednesday player in the late 1950s - 60s...as a cousin of mine, Keith Ellis played centre forward for the "Owls" ( Sheffield Wednesday) and I believe that we all are related. If you are/were familiar with this club - you would know about the scandals re match - fixing involving "Bronco" Lane and others in the early 1960s I think.... and I'm curious to know about the probable family link. Any help/information would be appreciated Richard Ellis (non-footballer though kicked a ball around with Keith) NB I posted this email a couple of days ago - but didn't register in my sent box so assume it was blocked somehow - hence my "repeat" request

Thank you very much Elaine and John. the information is really helpful Pauline > 1. Re: What happened to gravestones from St. Peter's (John Dickinson) > 2. Re: What happened to gravestones from St. Peter's (Elaine Pickard) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 10:04:25 +0100 > From: "John Dickinson" <john@rfsracing.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [SHEFF] What happened to gravestones from St. Peter's > To: <eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <D1988FEBD1F54538A42D786C13FAE4EA@mercury> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Pauline, > > I don't know what happened to the gravestones themselves, however the > Sheffield archives has all the inscriptions transcribed. The indexes are > as > follows. > > SHEFFIELD, St Peter and St Paul (Sheffield Cathedral) > > 1. Inscriptions from the churchyard, including those later removed to > allow > the widening of Church Street. Includes prefatory note and index. > Additional > index for stones removed. (Use index at MI 64 in first instance.) > JC1050 > MI/64 > > 2. Inscriptions of tombstones removed under the Corporation Act, 1890. > Book > of reference with plan and two drafts. > CA10/1/1-3 > > 3. List of 176 epitaphs in the churchyard (compiled 1906). > CA10/2 > > 4. Full inscriptions from inside the Parish Church, with index of names > (undated). > JC1299 > > Regards > -- > John Dickinson > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pauline Bell" <pbell7@btinternet.com> > To: <eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 3:52 PM > Subject: [SHEFF] What happened to gravestones from St. Peter's > > >> Gravestones St Peter's? >> >> Does anyone know what happened to old the gravestones from St Peters >> Parish >> church now the cathedral? >> >> Pauline Bell >> Researching: Bailey,Barnsley, Barber, Bell, Cooper, Froggatt, Leclere, >> Shaw >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 09:43:46 -0400 > From: "Elaine Pickard" <trayford@rogers.com> > Subject: Re: [SHEFF] What happened to gravestones from St. Peter's > To: "Pauline Bell" <pbell7@btinternet.com>, > <eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <D5D193C66D304B9EA71C6B3B058EF1E1@your7tpd92bdqq> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Pauline. > > > Some were used in the forecourt at the front of the Cathedral. > > Human remains were moved to Abbey Lane Cemetery. Section H. > > Elaine Pickard > Sheffield Indexers Site Admin. > www.SheffieldIndexers.com >

Pauline, I don't know what happened to the gravestones themselves, however the Sheffield archives has all the inscriptions transcribed. The indexes are as follows. SHEFFIELD, St Peter and St Paul (Sheffield Cathedral) 1. Inscriptions from the churchyard, including those later removed to allow the widening of Church Street. Includes prefatory note and index. Additional index for stones removed. (Use index at MI 64 in first instance.) JC1050 MI/64 2. Inscriptions of tombstones removed under the Corporation Act, 1890. Book of reference with plan and two drafts. CA10/1/1-3 3. List of 176 epitaphs in the churchyard (compiled 1906). CA10/2 4. Full inscriptions from inside the Parish Church, with index of names (undated). JC1299 Regards -- John Dickinson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline Bell" <pbell7@btinternet.com> To: <eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: [SHEFF] What happened to gravestones from St. Peter's > Gravestones St Peter's? > > Does anyone know what happened to old the gravestones from St Peters > Parish > church now the cathedral? > > Pauline Bell > Researching: Bailey,Barnsley, Barber, Bell, Cooper, Froggatt, Leclere, > Shaw > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pauline. Some were used in the forecourt at the front of the Cathedral. Human remains were moved to Abbey Lane Cemetery. Section H. Elaine Pickard Sheffield Indexers Site Admin. www.SheffieldIndexers.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline Bell" <pbell7@btinternet.com> To: <eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com> Sent: April 30, 2010 10:52 AM Subject: [SHEFF] What happened to gravestones from St. Peter's > Gravestones St Peter's? > > Does anyone know what happened to old the gravestones from St Peters > Parish > church now the cathedral? > > Pauline Bell > Researching: Bailey,Barnsley, Barber, Bell, Cooper, Froggatt, Leclere, > Shaw > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gravestones St Peter's? Does anyone know what happened to old the gravestones from St Peters Parish church now the cathedral? Pauline Bell Researching: Bailey,Barnsley, Barber, Bell, Cooper, Froggatt, Leclere, Shaw

West Bar is in Sheffield, and in 1950 was the site of the Central Fire Station; on my map, it looks about 1/2 a mile north of the town hall. I found an Ebenezer Place near the Industrial Museum of Kelham Island. Worcester is a long way from Sheffield; but ancestors of my wife travelled further seeking employment, and maybe her parents came to Sheffield looking for work. Stoney Middleton is near Sheffield. It is set in a limestone valley, where we explored caves and old lead mines as boys and teenagers. Now cement is made from lime; lime is made by burning limestone in kilns. That would have been a good trade near a growing city, needing cement for building. So they may well have lived in Stony Middleton, and worked in local lime works or cement factories. Eyam is not far away; it is famous for the story of its outbreak of plague (http://www.peakdistrictinformation.com/towns/eyam.php) two hundred years earlier. Sheffield might have been the home of Eliza's family at the time of her marriage. I don't think my Bennetts are connected to Eliza John Fisher ----- Original Message ----- From: <eng-sheffield-request@rootsweb.com> To: <eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:00 PM Subject: ENG-SHEFFIELD Digest, Vol 5, Issue 53 > Are Ebenezer square & West bar names of streets or areas? How close are > they actually to Sheffield? Isaac was born in Stoney Middleton, > Derbyshire, and Eliza was born in Worcester, Worcestershire. How far > are these > birth towns from Sheffield. I?m wondering why they married in Sheffield? > In > 1855 > what main occupation would there have been? Miners, Weavers, > Blacksmiths? > Other? Later years census info states Isaac?s occupation & the same for > some of his sons as Lime Burner?..Anyone know what that is and where one > would work to do that? All of their children appear to be born in the > Stoney > Middleton area as well, and I?m just curious how Sheffield came into > their > lives. > the Ebenezer Square & West Bar. The census of 1861 & 71 show them living > at > civil parish of Eyam, Derbyshire, Bakewell & Tideswell.

Hi Kris "I have a copy of a marriage certificate for Isaac Bennett/e & Eliza Bond. (Sheffield, England Gro Ref #9C-278). It states married in the parish church of Sheffield. Groom Isaac lived at Ebenezer Square, and Bride Eliza lived at West Bar. 18 Mar 1855. Isaac's fathers' name is Samuel, and Eliza's is James. Witnesses were Joseph Mellor & Mary Marsden. Are Ebenezer square & West bar names of streets or areas? How close are they actually to Sheffield? Isaac was born in Stoney Middleton, Derbyshire, and Eliza was born in Worcester, Worcestershire. How far are these birth towns from Sheffield. I'm wondering why they married in Sheffield? In 1855 what main occupation would there have been? Miners, Weavers, Blacksmiths? " In answer to your query as to why they may have married in Sheffield, I have a similar incident in my own family history where the bride and groom both lived in Derbyshire but married at the parish church in Sheffield. In my case, it was because the bride was pregnant and I think that a decision to marry elsewhere was quite common in these circumstances. This is just a suggestion but something to think about. On the 1861 Census, there are two children aged 2 and 4 months but there may be earlier offspring who have died. There an Eliza Bond aged 18 living in Chesterfield with Joseph and Mary Marsden, address West bars, on the 1851 Census which fits in with the bride's address and the witness on the marriage certificate. Mary Marsden appears to be Eliza's sister. Image sent to you offlist. Coincidentally, there is a also a West Bar address in Sheffield just to complicate matters. Coincidentally, Joseph Marsden and Mary Bond also appear to have married in Sheffield in Mar Q 1845. Hope this may be of some help. Christine

Hi Kris, I am the site admin for "Sheffield Indexers." that has a large database of material to help with your research. For the Sheffield area. http://www.sheffieldindexers.com/ If you look under LINKS you will find a huge selection of maps that will help. I have recently been transcribing a number of Baptismal Records for St Luke's Hollis Croft and I am sure that a number of the families lived in Ebenezer Square which wouldn't be far from West Bar. I will however check on that for you. Both West Bar & Ebenezer Sq are in Central Sheffield. If you Google for Old Occupations I am sure you will find what a Lime Burner was. Lime it's self was used for many different tasks. i.e. scattered on the land and houses were painted with lime. see the following. "Limestone is of rather low value, but nevertheless it is probably the most important mineral. It is mined and used in large amounts, which often conflicts with the protection of karst areas and caves. In history man used first the flint nodules, which are common in limestone. Later, after he become resident he used the rock for building purposes. Various kinds of limestone and marble were used for walls, pillars and much more. The soft rock was used to produce sculptures. Even limestone roofs and floors were built. With the increase of technology many more usages of lime were found. It is burnt in kilns to produce lime, white colour and finally cement. It is needed to produce glass, porcellain, or as addition in the melting of many metals. It is used to purify coal and the waste gas of power plants using carbon based fuel. Limestone neutralizes many toxic substances, especially sulphur oxide and sulphur dioxide. In combination with sulphur it is converted into gypsum. Limestone is typically quarried, as it occurs in huge sedimentary layers, and as mining is to expensive. " During the industrial revaluation there was a mass exodus from the land to the large cities, that's where the jobs were....... Hope this helps. Elaine in Ottawa Canada. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Kgjburrill@aol.com> To: <eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com> Sent: April 28, 2010 9:42 PM Subject: [SHEFF] BENNETT/e, BOND,Mellor, Marsden 1855 >I am new to the Sheffield list. > > > I have a copy of a marriage certificate for Isaac Bennett/e & Eliza Bond. > (Sheffield, England Gro Ref #9C-278). It states married in the parish > church of Sheffield. Groom Isaac lived at Ebenezer Square, and Bride > Eliza > lived at West Bar. 18 Mar 1855. > Isaac’s fathers’ name is Samuel, and Eliza’s is James. > Witnesses were Joseph Mellor & Mary Marsden. > Are Ebenezer square & West bar names of streets or areas? How close are > they actually to Sheffield? Isaac was born in Stoney Middleton, > Derbyshire, and Eliza was born in Worcester, Worcestershire. How far > are these > birth towns from Sheffield. I’m wondering why they married in Sheffield? > In > 1855 > what main occupation would there have been? Miners, Weavers, > Blacksmiths? > Other? Later years census info states Isaac’s occupation & the same for > some of his sons as Lime Burner…..Anyone know what that is and where one > would work to do that? All of their children appear to be born in the > Stoney > Middleton area as well, and I’m just curious how Sheffield came into > their > lives. > I’m not from England, but the USA, so I have no idea how close these > areas or towns are. I’ve tried to check on maps, but have difficulty > finding > the Ebenezer Square & West Bar. The census of 1861 & 71 show them living > at > civil parish of Eyam, Derbyshire, Bakewell & Tideswell. > Anyone able to answer location questions? Occupation ? > Anyone connected to the bride/groom/witnesses/ parents? > Thanks for any answers, suggestions, and suggestions of other web sites I > could find more on... > Kris Burrill > Michigan, USA > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Kris, welcome to the list. I noticed your post because I used to live at Stoney Middleton. Stoney Middleton is a village in Derbyshire about 13 miles from Sheffield. There are a lot of limestone quarries around there as well as feldspar and lead mines (now closed). Mapping sites should find it for you. As to West Bar, it is a street in Sheffield but also gives its name to the area round about it. I looked for Ebenezer Square on Google but it does not appear to exist anymore. Google gave me a page from the UK National Archives for the 1851 census and it looks like it was in an area heavily redevelopped in the last 50 yrs. I looked at the 1851 census using findmypast.co.uk which has a place search option and found that there was a Joseph Mellor living there. I would guess that Isaac might have come to lodge with them but he was not there in 1851. In fact he was at Middleton Bank, Eyam near Stoney Middleton. He was an agricultural labourer and lived at home. His father was a lime burner. Turning to Eliza, I found an Eliza Bond living in West Bars, CHesterfield. It is also about 13 miles from Sheffield. She was sister in law to Joseph Marsden and his wife (her sister?) was Mary. Eliza was declared to be born in Leamington, Warwickshire so this entry needs double checking. As for what Isaac might of done in Sheffield, just about anything, I suppose - Joseph Mellor was an engraver, his father a shoe maker, Isaac could have been in those trades or just a lodger. Have you looked at the 1861 Census? anyway, I hope that this has been useful and good luck! Peter Lee ---------------------------------------- > From: Kgjburrill@aol.com > Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:42:58 -0400 > To: eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SHEFF] BENNETT/e, BOND,Mellor, Marsden 1855 > > I am new to the Sheffield list. > > > I have a copy of a marriage certificate for Isaac Bennett/e & Eliza Bond. > (Sheffield, England Gro Ref #9C-278). It states married in the parish > church of Sheffield. Groom Isaac lived at Ebenezer Square, and Bride Eliza > lived at West Bar. 18 Mar 1855. > Isaac’s fathers’ name is Samuel, and Eliza’s is James. > Witnesses were Joseph Mellor & Mary Marsden. > Are Ebenezer square & West bar names of streets or areas? How close are > they actually to Sheffield? Isaac was born in Stoney Middleton, > Derbyshire, and Eliza was born in Worcester, Worcestershire. How far are these > birth towns from Sheffield. I’m wondering why they married in Sheffield? In > 1855 > what main occupation would there have been? Miners, Weavers, > Blacksmiths? > Other? Later years census info states Isaac’s occupation & the same for > some of his sons as Lime Burner…..Anyone know what that is and where one > would work to do that? All of their children appear to be born in the Stoney > Middleton area as well, and I’m just curious how Sheffield came into their > lives. > I’m not from England, but the USA, so I have no idea how close these > areas or towns are. I’ve tried to check on maps, but have difficulty finding > the Ebenezer Square & West Bar. The census of 1861 & 71 show them living at > civil parish of Eyam, Derbyshire, Bakewell & Tideswell. > Anyone able to answer location questions? Occupation ? > Anyone connected to the bride/groom/witnesses/ parents? > Thanks for any answers, suggestions, and suggestions of other web sites I > could find more on... > Kris Burrill > Michigan, USA > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/

In a message dated 29/04/2010 02:44:01 GMT Daylight Time, Kgjburrill@aol.com writes: Are Ebenezer square & West bar names of streets or areas? Hi, West Bar is right in the middle of Sheffield and was the name of part of a large thoroughfare in and out of the City. Ebenezer Square is not shown on any of the early maps I have but I suspect it is nearby. I am sending you a map off line which shows the church in an orange square at the bottom of the map and West Bar at the top. This church was the Parish Church of St. Peter, where they probably married Stoney Middleton is a small village in North Derbyshire and about 12 miles from Sheffield. If you find him on the census it will show his job and that may have been why he moved to Sheffield. Altholugh she was born in Wiltshire she may have come to Sheffield to work in the Cutlery business which had several jobs for women. West Bar is fairly close to the area where all the workshops and cutlers were based. Try and find him in the census for 1861 or 1871 and it will show you. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

I am new to the Sheffield list. I have a copy of a marriage certificate for Isaac Bennett/e & Eliza Bond. (Sheffield, England Gro Ref #9C-278). It states married in the parish church of Sheffield. Groom Isaac lived at Ebenezer Square, and Bride Eliza lived at West Bar. 18 Mar 1855. Isaac’s fathers’ name is Samuel, and Eliza’s is James. Witnesses were Joseph Mellor & Mary Marsden. Are Ebenezer square & West bar names of streets or areas? How close are they actually to Sheffield? Isaac was born in Stoney Middleton, Derbyshire, and Eliza was born in Worcester, Worcestershire. How far are these birth towns from Sheffield. I’m wondering why they married in Sheffield? In 1855 what main occupation would there have been? Miners, Weavers, Blacksmiths? Other? Later years census info states Isaac’s occupation & the same for some of his sons as Lime Burner…..Anyone know what that is and where one would work to do that? All of their children appear to be born in the Stoney Middleton area as well, and I’m just curious how Sheffield came into their lives. I’m not from England, but the USA, so I have no idea how close these areas or towns are. I’ve tried to check on maps, but have difficulty finding the Ebenezer Square & West Bar. The census of 1861 & 71 show them living at civil parish of Eyam, Derbyshire, Bakewell & Tideswell. Anyone able to answer location questions? Occupation ? Anyone connected to the bride/groom/witnesses/ parents? Thanks for any answers, suggestions, and suggestions of other web sites I could find more on... Kris Burrill Michigan, USA

On 04/22/2010 11:16 AM, Erich Schraer wrote: ... > The specific issue I'm working on is to determine whether the marriage > of Thomas Wilson/Willson (my 5x great-grandfather), a tailor who dwelt > in Ecclesall Bierlow, was to Mary Pinder on 17 Apr 1787 (F/2362/7921), > or to Mary Castle on 14 Dec 1781 (E/1758/5853). I'm hoping that more > information than what I have exists to help me narrow it down. ... I want to publically thank Carol Cooper who was at the Sheffield Archives and made digital images of the two marriage records in question, and sent them to me. While these records do not have occupations, fathers or abodes, they do have more information than the bishop's transcripts, including witnesses, celebrants, and signatures. I checked the information about the celebrants. The marriage of Thomas WILSON and Mary CASTLE on 14 Dec 1781 was performed by Edw Goodwin, Assist.t Minister, who the directory of "Sheffield Anglican Clergy" at the "Sheffield Indexers" website shows was the "Curate of Christ Church, Attercliffe 1776-1817". The marriage of Thomas WILLSON (spelling from his signature) and Mary PINDER on 17 Apr 1787 was performed by G. Bayliffe, Assist.t Minister, who the same directory shows as the "Minister of Ecclesall 1769-1804". Since I know that my Thomas WILSON/WILLSON dwelt in Ecclesall Bierlow, I think that might be another point in favour of his marriage being the one to Mary PINDER. --Erich

Hi I've not been able to get my posts accepted for a while so lets see if this works! The IGI shows Joseph LEA marrying Mary CHARLESWORTH at Bradfield on July 9 1789. Does anybody know if it is possible to see more details of either Joseph or Mary on the records at Sheffield Archives or in Bradfield? I would dearly like to know where Joseph came from! regards, Peter _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/197222280/direct/01/ Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? Tell us now

Hi Peter, Unfortunately the Bradfield Index I have goes from 1559 to 1722. To give you an idea what is in this index....... Jos: Hadfield, of ye pish of Tidswell, and Lydia Hinchliffe, of the pish of Kirkburton were (by vertue of a Licence) married 15 Nov 1720. Wm. Helliwell and Eliz: Barlow, both of this chapp: marr: 31 Dec 1719. Edward Greenwood, of the parish of Ecclesfield, and Sarah Woodhead, of this Chap: (as by Certif:) were Clandestinely married by one Mr. Jos: Winter, 18 Jun 1720. Wm. Fox and Grace Matthewman, both of this Chappelry, were by vertue of Banns Publicacion mar: 26 Oct 1720. **Malcolm Nunn at Bradfield Archives would be a good person for you to contact. Elaine Pickard Sheffield Indexers Site Admin. www.SheffieldIndexers.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lee" <gwil_lee@msn.com> To: "Sheffield List" <eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com> Sent: April 27, 2010 7:08 AM Subject: [SHEFF] Bradfield PRS > > > Hi > > I've not been able to get my posts accepted for a while so lets see if > this works! > > The IGI shows Joseph LEA marrying Mary CHARLESWORTH at Bradfield on July 9 > 1789. Does anybody know if it is possible to see more details of either > Joseph or Mary on the records at Sheffield Archives or in Bradfield? I > would dearly like to know where Joseph came from! > > regards, > > Peter > _________________________________________________________________ > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/197222280/direct/01/ > Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? Tell us now > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 04/22/2010 03:43 PM, Elaine Pickard wrote: > Hi Erich, > > As you have looked up the marriage references for both possible > marriages it should be NO problem for SKS to do a look up for you at the > Archives when they next visit or even ask at the Archives if they will > do it. Fingers crossed that his occupation is listed as his father might > not be. > > I have just checked "Sheffield Indexers" site and he doesn't appear to > be listed. But will re check it. > > the URL for you to check it yourself is. > http://www.sheffieldindexers.com/ > > When was the first child born? we might be able to help with that as well. > You will also see the baptisms we have transcribed as well. > > Fingers crossed. > Elaine Pickard > Sheffield Indexers Site Admin. > www.SheffieldIndexers.com Thanks to Elaine, Hilary and Liz (who emailed me off-list)! I may check into seeing about a lookup at the archives. I'm actually going to be in Sheffield briefly while on vacation in June, and I've been considering visiting the Sheffield Archives, so I may just wait until then. The family of Thomas and Mary WILSON falls into a timespan (1787-1797) that has not yet been indexed at the "Sheffield Indexers" site. (That site has been immensely useful for other timespans and other records however.) The baptisms of their four sons (Joshua, 8 Jul 1787, my 4x great-grandfather; Robert, 24 Jan 1790; Samuel, 23 Nov 1794; & John, 19 May 1797), besides being in the Sheffield bishop's transcripts, are also in the Ecclesall Bierlow registers. Thomas and Mary's burials (2 Jul 1837 and 1 May 1817 respectively) also are in the Ecclesall Bierlow registers. Mary's birthdate (based on age at death) of about 1759-1760 doesn't help distinguish which Mary it is. In the records I find Mary PINDER's baptism at 26 May 1760 and Mary CASTLE's at 2 Nov 1760. Actually at this point I think I incline towards Mary PINDER being my Thomas WILSON's wife, despite the fact that that marriage (17 Apr 1787) was less than three months before the baptism of their first son (8 Jul 1787). I find another Thomas WILSON, a cutler, married to another Mary, who has children baptised in the range 3 Nov 1782 to 25 May 1797 who fits the marriage to Mary CASTLE (14 Dec 1781) much better. Additional evidence would of course be nice. Thanks. --Erich -- Erich Schraer, Saint Louis, Missouri, USA erich@wubios.wustl.edu

I'm resending this as I didn't receive it in my mailbox - sorry if it appears twice: Searching the microfilm for a marriage in 1789 for the parish of Sheffield for my 3 x Great Grandparents it only gave their names and their marriage status ie Bachelor and Spinster. They are only one line entries. Baptisms though do give the occupations, but they are also only one line entries. Hilary -----Original Message----- From: eng-sheffield-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-sheffield-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Erich Schraer Sent: 22 April 2010 17:16 To: Sheffield Mailing List Subject: [SHEFF] Sheffield Parish Registers? I have access to most to the registers of the later, smaller parishes in the Sheffield area through microfilm and microfiche at my local Family History Center, but for the parish of Sheffield I only have access to microfilm of the bishop's transcripts, IGI extracts of the bishop's transcripts, and the indexes (and transcripts) on CDROM published by the Sheffield & District FHS. My question is about the marriage records of the parish of Sheffield in the 1780s. The bishop's transcripts for that period only have the names of the bride and groom, whether they are of the parish, and the date (and maybe the celebrant's name also, I don't remember for sure). There is no indication of anything else (such as groom's occupation or abode). I'd like to know from anyone who has used the original marriage registers from about that time-frame (or microfiche of same) as to whether or not there is any more information given. The specific issue I'm working on is to determine whether the marriage of Thomas Wilson/Willson (my 5x great-grandfather), a tailor who dwelt in Ecclesall Bierlow, was to Mary Pinder on 17 Apr 1787 (F/2362/7921), or to Mary Castle on 14 Dec 1781 (E/1758/5853). I'm hoping that more information than what I have exists to help me narrow it down. Thanks. --Erich -- Erich Schraer, Saint Louis, Missouri, USA erich@wubios.wustl.edu ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Erich, As you have looked up the marriage references for both possible marriages it should be NO problem for SKS to do a look up for you at the Archives when they next visit or even ask at the Archives if they will do it. Fingers crossed that his occupation is listed as his father might not be. I have just checked "Sheffield Indexers" site and he doesn't appear to be listed. But will re check it. the URL for you to check it yourself is. http://www.sheffieldindexers.com/ When was the first child born? we might be able to help with that as well. You will also see the baptisms we have transcribed as well. Fingers crossed. Elaine Pickard Sheffield Indexers Site Admin. www.SheffieldIndexers.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erich Schraer" <erich@wubios.wustl.edu> To: "Sheffield Mailing List" <eng-sheffield-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: April 22, 2010 12:16 PM Subject: [SHEFF] Sheffield Parish Registers? >I have access to most to the registers of the later, smaller parishes in > the Sheffield area through microfilm and microfiche at my local Family > History Center, but for the parish of Sheffield I only have access to > microfilm of the bishop's transcripts, IGI extracts of the bishop's > transcripts, and the indexes (and transcripts) on CDROM published by the > Sheffield & District FHS. > > My question is about the marriage records of the parish of Sheffield in > the 1780s. The bishop's transcripts for that period only have the names > of the bride and groom, whether they are of the parish, and the date > (and maybe the celebrant's name also, I don't remember for sure). There > is no indication of anything else (such as groom's occupation or abode). > I'd like to know from anyone who has used the original marriage > registers from about that time-frame (or microfiche of same) as to > whether or not there is any more information given. > > The specific issue I'm working on is to determine whether the marriage > of Thomas Wilson/Willson (my 5x great-grandfather), a tailor who dwelt > in Ecclesall Bierlow, was to Mary Pinder on 17 Apr 1787 (F/2362/7921), > or to Mary Castle on 14 Dec 1781 (E/1758/5853). I'm hoping that more > information than what I have exists to help me narrow it down. > > Thanks. > > --Erich > -- > Erich Schraer, Saint Louis, Missouri, USA > erich@wubios.wustl.edu > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sheffield & District Family History Fair 2010 Saturday, 24th April 2010 10 am to 4 pm at “The Centre in the Park”, Norfolk Heritage Park, Guildford Road, Sheffield S2 2PL Local groups and other Family History Societies will be represented and there will be a Help Desk for your enquiries. Admission free. Refreshments will be available all day. Angela Treweek _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/

I have access to most to the registers of the later, smaller parishes in the Sheffield area through microfilm and microfiche at my local Family History Center, but for the parish of Sheffield I only have access to microfilm of the bishop's transcripts, IGI extracts of the bishop's transcripts, and the indexes (and transcripts) on CDROM published by the Sheffield & District FHS. My question is about the marriage records of the parish of Sheffield in the 1780s. The bishop's transcripts for that period only have the names of the bride and groom, whether they are of the parish, and the date (and maybe the celebrant's name also, I don't remember for sure). There is no indication of anything else (such as groom's occupation or abode). I'd like to know from anyone who has used the original marriage registers from about that time-frame (or microfiche of same) as to whether or not there is any more information given. The specific issue I'm working on is to determine whether the marriage of Thomas Wilson/Willson (my 5x great-grandfather), a tailor who dwelt in Ecclesall Bierlow, was to Mary Pinder on 17 Apr 1787 (F/2362/7921), or to Mary Castle on 14 Dec 1781 (E/1758/5853). I'm hoping that more information than what I have exists to help me narrow it down. Thanks. --Erich -- Erich Schraer, Saint Louis, Missouri, USA erich@wubios.wustl.edu

Good evening all, A wonderful update of the list as there is not a single deletion because of bouncing emails! Lots of changes to existing emails, so if one of your old contacts bounces, check the Master Index first as that person may have changed his/her email address. Just a few new submissions: BOTTOMLEY DONKERSLEY TARBISON, TARBURTON/TARBOT(T)ON/TARBOTSON, TURBYSON All the best to everyone, Magdalena ___________________________________________________ Magdalena Gorrell Guimaraens List Administrator PLEASE NOTE: - For all communications regarding the YKS Surnames List, please address emails to:*ykssurnames@yahoo.com <mailto:ykssurnames@yahoo.com> NOT *to the address from which this update is posted. Thank you. - For the Index to surnames on the YKS Surnames database and for instructions on how to submit surnames, go to: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/ AIIC.MAIL - A service of the International Association of Conference Interpreters to Members --- http://www.aiic.net