Hi, haven't received any mail today except spam, is there a problem? regards John Morriss HUME Always looking for:-HUME plus ARCHER-Cradley Herts, 1840---BEAL(E) - Sheffield 1880 BROOKES-Rotherham 1860---BUCKLAND-Nottingham 1880 BURTON- Sheffield 1910---CARLTON-Sutton on Forest Yorks. 1730 CLARKE-Myton Hall, Yorks 1825---CROWSHAW- Sheffield 1910 HARGREAVES-West Yorks 1840---HARRISON-Nottingham 1760 HELMAN-London 1850---HOLIDAY-Kilvington York 1780 HUME- Lowestoft 1901--- LINCOLN-London 1850--- MEDD-SEAMER YORK 1901---McBRIDE- Rotherham 1850 SKELTON -York 1800---THEAKER- Sheffield 1910 STANLEY-West Hartlepool-1863

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Hello to all again, I have a marriage at St Phillip Sheffield 25/12/1856 and wonder if anyone has access to 1851 or 1861 census information which may include these people - Richard Raven, of full age, bachelor, hairdresser of Oxford Street. Father - Robert Raven, Bricklayer. Ann Atkins, of full age, spinster of Freedom Road, Father - John Atkins, Cutler. Other Information - They had children Richard Atkins (born 1858) and Edwin (born 1860/1) Richard Raven born c1833, Ann Atkins born c1834. Ann had a sister Ellen (married St Phillip 1857 where she gave her address as Freedom Hill, Walkeley) I would love any information to help solve this brick wall ... Thankyou Christine Perth, W Australia

Hello, I wonder if anyone can help find any of these family members in the 1851 Census. Marriage at St Phillip, Sheffield 24th May 1850 James Bradshaw, 22, bachelor, manager in a Razor Manufactory, of 121 Fitzwilliam Street, Ecclesall Bierlow. His father was Samuel Bradshaw, Razor Smith. Helen Farnsworth, 20, spinster, of Scotland Street, Sheffield. Here father was Charles Clement Farnsworth, Silver Plater. Marriage in the Catholic Chapel, witnesses Albert Farnsworth and Ann Farnsworth. If anyone has access to records for the 1851 or 1861 census that may show any of these people, I would really appreciate details. I know that Charles Clement Farnsworth was married to Isabella (Hubberstey), and other children were Isabella, Charles Clement, John Clement, Alice and Agnes. I think he died in 1857. Thankyou Christine Perth, Western Australia

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hello Christine, This is from the 1861 index - I'm sure someone can fill in the details... RAVEN Richard 28 YKS Sheffield 3482 66 RAVEN Anne 27 YKS Sheffield 3482 66 RAVEN Richard A. 3 YKS Sheffield 3482 66 RAVEN Edwin <1 YKS Sheffield 3482 66 I also found these burials in the NBI for St Philip's - for these dates these burials would have taken place in Wardsend Cemetery. RAVEN Ann 4 Jul 1893 32 Cross Bedford St 59 RAVEN Charles 11 May 1881 Gertrude St 9m so Joseph RAVEN Ernest 31 Jul 1874 Landsett Rd 4m so Richard RAVEN Fanny 10 Apr 1881 Flora St 2+ da Joseph RAVEN Florence 17 May 1872 Infirmary Rd 9m da Richard RAVEN John Henry 18 Mar 1866 Infirmary Rd 9m so Richard RAVEN Richard 27 Jul 1887 Cross Bedford St 54 Hugh in Sheffield ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Cavanagh" <cavanagh@starwon.com.au> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 11:40 PM Subject: [SHEFF] 1851, 1861 Census - RAVEN, ATKINS > Hello to all again, I have a marriage at St Phillip Sheffield 25/12/1856 and wonder if anyone has access to 1851 or 1861 census information which may include these people - > > Richard Raven, of full age, bachelor, hairdresser of Oxford Street. Father - Robert Raven, Bricklayer. > Ann Atkins, of full age, spinster of Freedom Road, Father - John Atkins, Cutler. > > Other Information - > They had children Richard Atkins (born 1858) and Edwin (born 1860/1) > Richard Raven born c1833, Ann Atkins born c1834. > Ann had a sister Ellen (married St Phillip 1857 where she gave her address as Freedom Hill, Walkeley) > > I would love any information to help solve this brick wall ... > Thankyou > Christine > Perth, W Australia

hello Simon Welcome to the list! Since we are talking about two prominent Sheffield families, there may be pedigrees in Sheffield Archives which would shed light on this. This list works particularly well when considering specific questions. So if you can tell us about some 'unknowns' at the margins of what is known we can ferret away at them :-) for those who don't know about JA Roebuck, take a look at (for example) http://www.imagesonline.bl.uk/britishlibrary/controller/subjectidsearch?id=11144 Roebuck Road is just over the hill from where I live. Hugh in Sheffield ps It's a good idea to tell us where you are in the world - we may need to take that into account when suggesting sources of information. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Robinson" <srimages@fsmail.net> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 11:16 AM Subject: [SHEFF] Roebuck - Jessop > Hi Folks > Simon here. My grandfather, Bernard Henry Jessop Wilson, started combing through many documents to start off our family tree. My mother and now me are carrying on. > I am looking for as much information as possible about the Roebucks (from JA Roebuck fame) to the Jessop family (Jessop Hospital for Women). > Any information would of course be greatly appreciated. > My Grandfather had a strong suspicion that the Jessops and the Roebucks were linked together sometime through marriage. > Look forward to hearing from someone. > Best wishes > Simon Robinson > > -- > > Whatever you Wanadoo: > http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ > > This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm

Hi Folks Simon here. My grandfather, Bernard Henry Jessop Wilson, started combing through many documents to start off our family tree. My mother and now me are carrying on. I am looking for as much information as possible about the Roebucks (from JA Roebuck fame) to the Jessop family (Jessop Hospital for Women). Any information would of course be greatly appreciated. My Grandfather had a strong suspicion that the Jessops and the Roebucks were linked together sometime through marriage. Look forward to hearing from someone. Best wishes Simon Robinson -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm

Christine (cavanagh@starwon.com.au) posted: >> Hello, I wonder if anyone can help find any of these family members in the 1851 Census. Marriage at St Phillip, Sheffield 24th May 1850 James Bradshaw, 22, bachelor, manager in a Razor Manufactory, of 121 Fitzwilliam Street, Ecclesall Bierlow. His father was Samuel Bradshaw, Razor Smith. Helen Farnsworth, 20, spinster, of Scotland Street, Sheffield. Her father was Charles Clement Farnsworth, Silver Plater. Marriage in the Catholic Chapel, witnesses Albert Farnsworth and Ann Farnsworth. If anyone has access to records for the 1851 or 1861 census that may show any of these people, I would really appreciate details. >> I have no census data but checked the 1852 White's Directory (online). Bradshaw James razor manufacturer, 132 Fitzwilliam street (no entry for Samuel) Farnsworth Charles Clement, victualler, Fortune of War, 102 Scotland street so he seems to have changed from Silver Plater to innkeeper. I didn't check but Christine, and anyone else with ancestors in Sheffield in 1864, should check names against the Sheffield Flood Claims site. <http://extra.shu.ac.uk/sfca> -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------

In a message dated 04/02/2005 23:45:19 GMT Standard Time, dalum@blueyonder.co.uk writes: Neither address is at all close to the Hallamshire, but of course they could have moved. Hi Before they closed down, Ellis Son and Parramore [1980s] had a shop on the other side of the road to the Hallamshire Hospital but a bit lower down Glossop Road. This was opened to cater for people visiting the hospital who needed appliances like splints, trusses and other medical aids. The Boundary stone between Nether Hallam and Upper Hallam was in Glossop Road just above the University Union building. It was just outside my dentist's and whenever I went there as a child, I used to notice this little triangular stone by the gate and wonder what it meant. Hope this is helpful, Best wishes JUDY ELKINGTON _www.elkingtonfamily.com_ (http://www.elklingtonfamily.com/) ELKINGTON-L@rootsweb.com

hello Patrick doesn't answer the question, but there is the firm from an earlier period (note the spelling of Paramore): White's 1919-20 Directory Ellis, Son & Paramore, surgical instrument manufacturers; works, 69 & 71 Spring street & 162 Devonshire street Neither address is at all close to the Hallamshire, but of course they could have moved. Hugh in Sheffield ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Linsley" <cyberbia@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 10:56 PM Subject: [SHEFF] Ellis, Son & Paramour, Glossop Road, Sheffield. > Hi everyone > > Back in 1980 I knew someone who used to work at a firm called Ellis, Son & > Paramour. They used to deal in medical equipment and supplies. > > I think they used to be in Glossop Road - somewhere near the Hallamshire > Hospital in Broomhill. > > I know the firm no longer exists and hasn't done so for a good number of > years. Can anyone fill me in with the exact address and when the firm > closed or what happened to it? > > Regards > > Patrick > Bournemouth

Hi everyone Back in 1980 I knew someone who used to work at a firm called Ellis, Son & Paramour. They used to deal in medical equipment and supplies. I think they used to be in Glossop Road - somewhere near the Hallamshire Hospital in Broomhill. I know the firm no longer exists and hasn't done so for a good number of years. Can anyone fill me in with the exact address and when the firm closed or what happened to it? Regards Patrick Bournemouth

Hello, for all those with access to Ancestry.com you may be interested to note that they have now added all the Yorkshire census records for 1901. So, no more expensive viewing of the wrong records on the main UK 1901 site. If only my Ancestry account hadn't become mysteriously locked, I wonder how long that will take to sort out? Regards Jon Bradshaw Sheffield -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.2 - Release Date: 28/01/2005

Kenneth and Joan Littlewood Barnsley Yorkshire RESEARCHING: LITTLEWOOD....KIRKBURTON, HOLMFIRTH, PENISTONE CRABTREE........FELKIRK, SOUTH HIENDLEY, BARNSLEY GREAVES..........ECCLESFIELD, TANKERSLEY, THORPE HESLEY STAFFORD........GLOSSOP, PENISTONE Please inform us prior or when sending an attachment Please

In a message dated 04/02/2005 02:43:35 GMT Standard Time, christineroderick@btinternet.com writes: Then can someone try to give me a reason why the eldest and youngest sons in the family shoud be packed off to Sheffield from Bridlington some time in the 1850s to be apprenticed as filecutters when the middle son stays at home? Is there some truth in the family rumour that these two were in trouble of some kind and were both shipped off? And how can I find out? Hi I am sure that there may be some trouble but that happens in many families. But the other son may not have been well enough to leave home. He may have been his parents golden child or a constant help to another sick relative. You do not say whether he had any employment but perhaps the other two sons were made redundant and found that by moving they got a better or another job. Are you sure they weren't chasing some girls who they later married or not, as the case may be. I do not think that you could look this problem up anywhere but I may be wrong. Best wishes JUDY ELKINGTON _www.elkingtonfamily.com_ (http://www.elklingtonfamily.com/) ELKINGTON-L@rootsweb.com

Hi All Can some kind soul give me the household for this reference Sheffield 1861 Name Frank BROWN Age 21 Birth place Bridlington Quay, YKS Piece and Folio 3481/47 Then can someone try to give me a reason why the eldest and youngest sons in the family shoud be packed off to Sheffield from Bridlington some time in the 1850s to be apprenticed as filecutters when the middle son stays at home? Is there some truth in the family rumour that these two were in trouble of some kind and were both shipped off? And how can I find out? Chris Roderick

a birth cert; George Thomas BIRKS, dob 4 Jul 1883. Father Benjamin Joseph BIRKS, pudler; mother Mary ?**OMANS.

Hello listers I seem to remember that there has been info. on the list before relating to Ecclesall Church Yard in Sheffield. A reminder please. Have the graves been recorded ? Is there a diagram of the Church Yard layout. Does any one have a contact name, address, tele. no. Thanks Roger Stevenson in Sheffield

Hello listers I have recently begun to exchange family history with a very, very distant relative of mine. As a consequence I have information relating to the surnames STOKES and MOSS, both Sheffield families, who from memory have received very little or no coverage on this site. Charles MOSS and his wife Sarah, had 2 daughters Laura and Mary and 2 sons Walter and Albert. In 1881 the family were at 113 Heeley Green, Sheffield. Albert married my maternal grandmothers sister, Charlotte Ann Dale. George STOKES b 1805 in Sheffield, had a son William who married Mary Ann Goodwin in 1844 in Sheffield. William and Mary had a son, William, who married Ann WATSON in 1871 at St John's, Park in Sheffield. William and Ann's son, George, married my Mom's cousin, Beatrice May MOSS Anyone interested in the above, please contact me for further info. I have also received a copy of an extremely interesting document, The Inventory and Valuation of the ' BARREL INN ' Pond St in Sheffield, dated July 20th, 1903. 5 A4 sides of info. relating to the smoke room, bar vaults, entrance passage, tap room, kitchen, 3 attics, landing and stairs, 2 bedrooms, club room, front of house, butchers shop, stable, wash house, 2 cellars, cellar passage and stock in trade. Total Value £ 201-1-2d Anyone interested then please get in touch Roger Stevenson in Sheffield

Hi List, We are seeking a look up for a Marriage at Greasbrough or Tankersley for Mary Steel to George Greaves about 1800 Regards Kenneth and Joan Littlewood Barnsley Yorkshire RESEARCHING: LITTLEWOOD....KIRKBURTON, HOLMFIRTH, PENISTONE CRABTREE........FELKIRK, SOUTH HIENDLEY, BARNSLEY GREAVES..........ECCLESFIELD, TANKERSLEY, THORPE HESLEY STAFFORD........GLOSSOP, PENISTONE Please inform us prior or when sending an attachment Please