hello Stephen, From the Sheffield Local Register (a digest of local newspapers): 4 May 1883 Mr JB Curtis, master at Midland Station, presented with address and £150 on leaving for Liverpool. Succeeded by Mr Wheen, from Bristol. And Bob's your uncle (not a genealogical statement). Hugh in Sheffield ----- Original Message ----- From: "stephen cook" <cookieloco@yahoo.co.uk> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 4:58 PM Subject: [SHEFF] John Briggs CURTIS and railway stations in Sheffield > Hello Listers > > I am really struggling in my attempt to find at which > station in Sheffield my G Grandfather, John Briggs > CURTIS, worked - I naively thought this would be easy > ;-). > > He is listed in both the 1871 and 1881 census records > as a station master living in Shrewsbury Street, just > up the hill from the Midland station. He was in > Sheffield as late as March 1883 but was in Liverpool > by February 1885. It would be simple to assume that > he was station master of the Midland station. However, > I do not know whether station masters were necessarily > obliged to live adjacent to their stations. [snip]

Hello Stephen, It might be useful for you to make contact with the Wyvern Midland Railway Index, which is/was a project being carried out by Chris & Judy Rouse to systematically transcribe all the Midland Railway staff records held at the PRO. The project was in progress in October 2003 and they were offering a look-up service at a nominal charge at that stage. I'm not sure that the project is still going, but you might want to check. Of course even if the project is still live they might not have covered the records for your Great Grandfather (if there are any) yet. The email address was chris@rouse31.freeserve.co.uk Hope that this helps. Regards, John Jefferies Sheffield, South Yorkshire stephen cook <cookieloco@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Hello Listers I am really struggling in my attempt to find at which station in Sheffield my G Grandfather, John Briggs CURTIS, worked - I naively thought this would be easy ;-). He is listed in both the 1871 and 1881 census records as a station master living in Shrewsbury Street, just up the hill from the Midland station. He was in Sheffield as late as March 1883 but was in Liverpool by February 1885. It would be simple to assume that he was station master of the Midland station. However, I do not know whether station masters were necessarily obliged to live adjacent to their stations. He was only 26 in 1871. This fits with the family oral history which goes "he was the youngest station master of his time". He could, as someone pointed out, be just a relief or assistant station master. Also he may have served at different stations in his stay in Sheffield. Just to confuse matters further I have recently discovered that goods stations sometimes had station masters, such as the Great Central, Park Station, Sheffield. I have started gathering information about candidate stations in Sheffield and am really struggling. There is little on the internet and I cannot find an appropriate book. I know my G grandfather was a Midland railwayman in 1861 and 1891 so it is reasonable to exclude the Great Central Railway stations. He went on to become the agent for the Midland Railway Co. (passenger and parcels receiving office) in Liverpool. So perhaps the goods stations can also be eliminated I have a copy of the 1871 Midland timetable for Sheffield and note the following passenger stations:- Sheffield Midland Attercliffe Road Brightside Wincobank Heeley I think Brightside can be eliminated at least in 1881 as in the census for this year it appears to have a resident station master in the station house in Blackburn Road. I feel that this problem may only be solved by a visits to Sheffield Local History Library and the Public Records Office at Kew however these are not viable options at the moment. If anyone can help me with dates of opening and closure of the above or any other information I would be most grateful. Thank you Stephen in UK ==== ENG-SHEFFIELD Mailing List ==== Always include your name and area of residence on ALL list messages. It helps others to point you to your nearest source of information. It also makes for a more friendly message. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

In a message dated 08/02/2005 22:05:28 GMT Standard Time, meelliott@btinternet.com writes: Can anyone tell me please if any parish records for Ecclesall are available. Hi Margaret, Yes there is chappie on line who will do look ups. _rich@realmad.com_ (mailto:rich@realmad.com) I hope he is still doing it. Best wishes JUDY ELKINGTON _www.elkingtonfamily.com_ (http://www.elklingtonfamily.com/) ELKINGTON-L@rootsweb.com

In a message dated 09/02/2005 11:54:32 GMT Standard Time, trav126@hotmail.com writes: "In 1921 we were taken in to the Fulwood cottage homes, all separate houses with a house mother, but we had to look after ourselves, keep clean and tidy, polish our shoes and all this at just four years old." The older children probably helped them. A good lesson for taking care of themselves when they probably left at 14 to work. Children had to grow up before their time in those days. Judy.

Jeremy - I tried to buy this from the Sheffield FHS and they sent me my money back as being out of print. The person sending me the parcel (I had ordered other books too) told me that the Local Studies section probably would have a copy and that I may be able to obtain a second hand copy from Amazon or a second hand book shop. Hilary Jackson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Crawshaw" <jeremy.crawshaw@talktalk.net> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [SHEFF] Children's Care Homes Hello Jenny (in Whitby, my next favourite place after Sheffield), The only reference book that I know about (and have a copy) is, For the Love of Children, (A Story of the Poor Children of Sheffield and of Fulwood Cottage Homes) by Marjorie Dunn which gives a good insight into the care of children in Sheffield and does cover the 1920's. I have just checked the S&DFHS website and they are still showing it as available for sale at £4.40, if you click on the link below it will take you to the correct page, if you scroll down you will see the title. You can print an order form off the website and order it direct from the S&DFHS. If you decide not to order it from them, the ISBN No is: 0-9513824-0-3. http://www.sheffieldfhs.org.uk/Pub_con/Printed-Booklets.htm Best Wishes Jeremy Crawshaw Crookes SHEFFIELD ---------------------------------------------------- Outgoing Mail protected by: NORTON Internet Security 2004 Updated: 6th February 2005 ---------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Mason" <natphos@bio12.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 3:03 PM Subject: [SHEFF] Children's Care Homes > Hi > > Can anyone tell me where I can find out about Care Homes for children in > Sheffield around the 1920's? I would be most grateful > > Regards Jenny (Whitby) ==== ENG-SHEFFIELD Mailing List ==== FLAMING or response postings to any unsavoury message content will not be tolerated on Eng-Sheffield. ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Thanks to Hugh and Elaine for your replies, also Tony for sending me a copy of a very nice map showing where Church St. was before it was renamed Worksop Road. Is there any one out there who has a connection to my Bailey family ?. George Bailey born 1836 Eliza A (wife) " 1842 William son " 1862 Thomas " " 1863 Maria dghtr " 1868 Lillie dghtr " 1872 George son " 1875 Henry " " 1877 Ellen dghtr " 1879 Cheers. Audrey, Ontario, Canada.

Can anyone tell me please if any parish records for Ecclesall are available. Thank you Margaret Switzerland

Hi Audrey > Having read the enquiry re Dunlop St. I am having trouble finding CHURCH > ST, Attercliffe cum Darnall. I have a map taken from a book "The Story of old Attercliffe" and it shows Church Street as running off High Street [now Attercliffe Road]. This was based on a survey of 1853 and judging by its position, I would say it was where Worksop Road is now. Hope this helps Tony Morton Sheffield -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 03/02/2005

Hi Margaret, Yes Ecclesall has been filmed very well by the LDS........check the following. http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp Regards. Elaine in Ottawa. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 2/7/2005

Hello Listers I am really struggling in my attempt to find at which station in Sheffield my G Grandfather, John Briggs CURTIS, worked - I naively thought this would be easy ;-). He is listed in both the 1871 and 1881 census records as a station master living in Shrewsbury Street, just up the hill from the Midland station. He was in Sheffield as late as March 1883 but was in Liverpool by February 1885. It would be simple to assume that he was station master of the Midland station. However, I do not know whether station masters were necessarily obliged to live adjacent to their stations. He was only 26 in 1871. This fits with the family oral history which goes "he was the youngest station master of his time". He could, as someone pointed out, be just a relief or assistant station master. Also he may have served at different stations in his stay in Sheffield. Just to confuse matters further I have recently discovered that goods stations sometimes had station masters, such as the Great Central, Park Station, Sheffield. I have started gathering information about candidate stations in Sheffield and am really struggling. There is little on the internet and I cannot find an appropriate book. I know my G grandfather was a Midland railwayman in 1861 and 1891 so it is reasonable to exclude the Great Central Railway stations. He went on to become the agent for the Midland Railway Co. (passenger and parcels receiving office) in Liverpool. So perhaps the goods stations can also be eliminated I have a copy of the 1871 Midland timetable for Sheffield and note the following passenger stations:- Sheffield Midland Attercliffe Road Brightside Wincobank Heeley I think Brightside can be eliminated at least in 1881 as in the census for this year it appears to have a resident station master in the station house in Blackburn Road. I feel that this problem may only be solved by a visits to Sheffield Local History Library and the Public Records Office at Kew however these are not viable options at the moment. If anyone can help me with dates of opening and closure of the above or any other information I would be most grateful. Thank you Stephen in UK

Hello Jenny (in Whitby, my next favourite place after Sheffield), The only reference book that I know about (and have a copy) is, For the Love of Children, (A Story of the Poor Children of Sheffield and of Fulwood Cottage Homes) by Marjorie Dunn which gives a good insight into the care of children in Sheffield and does cover the 1920's. I have just checked the S&DFHS website and they are still showing it as available for sale at £4.40, if you click on the link below it will take you to the correct page, if you scroll down you will see the title. You can print an order form off the website and order it direct from the S&DFHS. If you decide not to order it from them, the ISBN No is: 0-9513824-0-3. http://www.sheffieldfhs.org.uk/Pub_con/Printed-Booklets.htm Best Wishes Jeremy Crawshaw Crookes SHEFFIELD ---------------------------------------------------- Outgoing Mail protected by: NORTON Internet Security 2004 Updated: 6th February 2005 ---------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Mason" <natphos@bio12.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 3:03 PM Subject: [SHEFF] Children's Care Homes > Hi > > Can anyone tell me where I can find out about Care Homes for children in > Sheffield around the 1920's? I would be most grateful > > Regards Jenny (Whitby)

Hi Can anyone tell me where I can find out about Care Homes for children in Sheffield around the 1920's? I would be most grateful Regards Jenny (Whitby)

Hi Jenny, I too am researching CLAYTON. My Father was Reuben CLAYTON Born 1914 Sheffield.............. Married Eleanor Marshall His Father was Ernest " " 1890 " .............. " Florence Sanderson " " " John " " 1866 ? .............. " Martha Bartles " " " George " " 1819 ? I don't have a lot of information but if you think any of these names are of interest to you let me know and I will send what info I have. Regards Jean Blenkinsopp New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: Jennifer Mason To: ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 5:10 AM Subject: [SHEFF] Name Interests Hi My name is Jenny. I am researching my family history in the Ecclesall Bierlow/Sheffield/Rotherham. Name Interests BOWER - MERRILL - GAMBLES - WRIGHT - FOOTE - CLAYTON >From 1800's or before to present Thanks ==== ENG-SHEFFIELD Mailing List ==== It helps others to know which message your replying to, so always add a little of the text from the message to which you are responding. Some subscribers (myself included) have short memories. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

Hello everyone, My Name is Robert Pearson, I am trying to find some HEMINGWAY relatives but unfortunately I have very little to go on so this is a bit of a long shot. My Grandfathers sister BABS (presumably Barbara ?) PEARSON was born around 1894, although I can find no record of her anywhere, and married STAN HEMINGWAY, they lived and were probably married in Sheffield. They had a son ROBERT HEMINGWAY born around 1918. Their last known address (1950 'ish) was 8 Charles Ashmore Road, Norton Woodseats, Sheffield. I know this is all very vague but it is all I have. Has anyone got any ideas how I might progress from here? Kind regards, Rob Pearson

Hi Audrey, As he was listed as being at Church Street on the 1881 census the name change obviously took place later than that. I believe that Attercliffe Road had a major name change shortly after the 1881 census as my grandfather was born at 434 Attercliffe Road in 1887 but on the 1881 census it was 53 Carlton Road. They did NOT move as they had a butchers shop and Pub there. So maybe Church St was the area around Christ Church which then became Attercliffe Road... But I stand to be corrected......LOL. Elaine in Ottawa. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 2/7/2005

message rec'd Tuesday Jennifer wrote Can anyone tell me where I can find out about Care Homes for children in Sheffield around the 1920's? I would be most grateful Jennifer. Your question brought back fond memories for me. In the 1950's I worked as a housemother in the Sheffield Reception Center. It was for children brought into the care of the local authority. I believe it was off Abbeydale Road, and run by the Sheffield City Council. I was also stationed at a home up in the hills above Bradfield, this was for more permanent placement. I think it was called Thurston Lodge. How long these places had been open I do not recall. I certainly have many fond memories of the wonderful loving children I met there, so much so that they inspired me to further my education and after two years I moved on to school in the south of England. Margaret in cold Palmyra, PS I hope the names are remembered correctly.

My latest Brick wall has led me to the Workhouse, Nether Hallam, where I think I have found my GGP, Mary Walker age 8. This entry does not give any further information, so I wondered if the records for this place are available, and what type of information could I expect. Although it is called a workhouse, it appears to be more of an orphanage. Any information would be appreciated.Regards, Christina San Jose Protected by NORTON anti-virus San Jose

Having read the enquiry re Dunlop St. I am having trouble finding CHURCH ST, Attercliffe cum Darnall. My grandfather- Thomas Bailey, son of George Bailey and family lived at no. 13 Church St. (1881 census). I have searched the maps on the web but cannot find where it is or was.Any help appreciated. Audrey, Ontario, Canada.

hello Patrick I found two specific references to Dun St becoming Dunlop St. One is on Chris Hobbs's site at: http://www.chrishobbs.com/thomaseshutt.htm (a passing reference) The other is an old message on this list, which was from me, so it must be true ;-) http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/ENG-SHEFFIELD/2003-01/1043157503 Looking at the burials at Atterclffe Cemetery which list Dun or Dunlop Street as the place of death, there is virtually no overlap, with the change taking place towards the end of 1871. There's just one in Dun Street in Feb 1872 which may be due to forgetfullness or stubbornness. Does anyone have a copy of the SDFHS pamphlet: "Changes in Sheffield Street Names 1871" ? Hugh in Sheffield ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Linsley" <cyberbia@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 9:31 PM Subject: RE: [SHEFF] Dun Street - Attercliffe cum Darnall > Dear Jeremy, Richard and Gordon > > Thanks for your help. My friend knows Dunlop Street very well. She's just > told me by phone that as a little girl she used to go up and down that > street many times. She had no idea that Dunlop Street was where her Gt > Grandparents lived in 1871. > > Many thanks again > > Patrick

Re Patrick Linsey's query as per the heading. Dunlop St is in Carbrook, and it contained about 400 or so houses. In 1940 I was born halfway down at number 272. It is still there but now part of an industrial estate. It is possible that Patrick's G G.parents attended the school there, Carbrook School. Mike Bailey Sawtry Cambs Interests- BAILEY, COOPER & COATES