Hi Judy There's a wealth of information on individual tradesmen and their addresses in the Historical directories website - which include Pigots, Kellys and others - for North and East Ridings, West Ridings, and separate ones for cities such as Sheffield and Leeds. There are at least 51 such trade directories just for Yorkshire - all-on-line for free!!.. courtesy of a University of Leicester project. The website is www.historicaldirectories.com/ Some of these directories are over 600 pages long, so its best to trawl through the page indices first, to see which part of the directory your people are likely to feature. One can also download individual pages of these directories for printing. I have found a number of my relatives using this source, confirming other data such as censuses. Some of them also give a description of individual towns and villages, mentioning schools, places of worship etc. I think it's a real gold mine!... however most of the directories are mid to late 19th century era, and none after c 1915 (for Yorkshire anyway) Happy hunting! Richard in Surrey ps Hope that I haven't upset any of the commercial FH people by mentioning this site. I have bought a number of such trade directories in the past but think we should share information to break down those brick walls!!..as not all can afford to acquire all the CDs or make visits to libraries...and in the spirit of the new Government freedom of information Act! -----Original Message----- From: JJupar@aol.com [mailto:JJupar@aol.com] Sent: 13 February 2005 10:44 To: ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SHEFF] Whitworths Shop Hi I am researching my gt.grandfather's rise from Pawn Broker to owning a large Tailors and Gentleman's outfitters in West Bars. I know where the shop was but I am interested how long they were in business. They were there in 1900 and in 1914 they were making uniforms for the Army. They were one of the first company's to make ready-made uniforms for soldiers. I wondered if anyone has any later directories which would show the business as I know it continued until at least 1920 and may be longer. The original owner was William Rawson Surplice Whitworth but I know his son Ralph carried on the business for some years after his death. Many thanks Judy Elkington ==== ENG-SHEFFIELD Mailing List ==== It helps others to know which message your replying to, so always add a little of the text from the message to which you are responding. Some subscribers (myself included) have short memories. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

Hi Would SKS please look up this family for me They were in Tinsley in 1871 also but this is them in 1881 I would really appreciate any help and love to hear from anyone with connections Christine 1945 Household:1881 John Taylor LEIGH Head M Male 55 Stoke On Trent, Stafford, England Engine Driver (Steel Works) Mary Ann LEIGH Wife M Female 45 Hoyland, York, England George Edward LEIGH Son U Male 25 Tinsley, York, England Steam Boiler Maker John LEIGH Son U Male 20 Tinsley, York, England Steam Boiler Maker Henry LEIGH Son U Male 15 Tinsley, York, England Steam Hammer Driver Alfred LEIGH Son U Male 12 Tinsley, York, England Scholar Annie LEIGH Daughter U Female 10 Tinsley, York, England Scholar Charles Frederick LEIGH Son U Male 8 Tinsley, York, England Scholar Mary Ann Mitchell LEIGH Daughter U Female 6 Tinsley, York, England Scholar Fanny LEIGH Daughter U Female 4 Tinsley, York, England Scholar Walter LEIGH Son U Male 2 Tinsley, York, England Source Information: Dwelling 13 Sales Row Census Place Tinsley, York, England Family History Library Film 1342130 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4674 / 88 Page Number 22 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 10/02/2005

Hello Elaine and others. This is the transcription of the notice that was pinned on the door of Eckington Parish Church in January 1815. Sabbath Day Whereas it has been represented to us, by several shopkeepers of this Parish that they are prevented from a due & reverent observance of the Sabbath-day, by persons resorting to their shops on that day we hereby give Notice that we are determined to the utmost of our power to suppress a practice both illegal & immoral, and to detect and punish all persons who keep their shops open on Sundays, by enforcing the penalty which the law enjoins. And we also strongly recommend to all masters to pay their work-people early on Saturday ( or some other evening ), so as to prevent the usual pretence for resorting to shops on the Sunday morning ; namely, “ That they receive their wages late on Saturday evening, or ( shame to say ) on Sunday morning. A.C.B. Curate Also signed by Church wardens Illegal and Immoral.................what would they make of us today...? Angela (LEE) Eckington U.K.

Greetings to all I know this may be too late and wrong but some years ago I had trouble with a relation of my wife [gt gt gt grandmother] living in No 8 Clun St. The enumerators writing was difficult and at one stage I thought it could have been Dun St. There are a Clun St and Clun Road still in existence I finally found. I got a further confirmation online in the Flood Claims Archive:- 428 LYDIA PEECH widow No 8 Clun St Leasehold for a long term. 4 Houses & 1 Workshop damaged £16 13s 8d Tools lost or damaged in Workshops £5 10s 0d Total £22 3s 8d Assessed by Assent at £22 3s 8d. Cert granted 15 April 1865. John Elmes Sippy Downs SE Qld ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Linsley" <cyberbia@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 4:35 AM Subject: [SHEFF] Dun Street - Attercliffe cum Darnall > Hi everyone > > I've just found my friends Gt Grandparents living in 1871 at 127 Dun Street, > Attercliffe cum Darnall. > > Can anyone tell me where this Dun Street used to be? > > I know there is - still to this day - a Dun Street at Kelham Island. > > However in 1871 census says that the particular Dun Street we're interested > in had - according to the enumerator's book - over 235 addresses in it. The > Dun Street at Kelham Island is not - as far as I can see - long enough to > > > Patrick > > > > ==== ENG-SHEFFIELD Mailing List ==== > FLAMING or response postings to any unsavoury message content will not be tolerated on Eng-Sheffield. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Kay. The GRO indexes have a marriage in the June quarter of 1864 for Tom HESELWOOD and Ann MAWE registered at Sheffield 9C page 263. Kind Regards Angela (LEE) Eckington U.K.

Thanks to Elaine for finding him as a HAZLEWOOD at Brightside in 1861. and Mel's details, LODGING so no parent info., another Brick Wall, but luckily I found his second marriage in Doncaster yesterday, so I can get the cert. for that and hope it resolves it. His first marriage to ANN MAWE is not to be found, even though I am convinced it will be at Attercliffe, around 1863-5. If anyone sees him whilst transcribing 1851, think of me! Kind Regards Kay-UK

Hello Joanne, The CHAMBERS (Butterwick, Lincolnshire) connection is one that I've only just found out about (September last year) so I haven't had time to look into this name yet. The CHAMBERS person in question is Elizabeth CHAMBERS (a 2nd G.Grandmother) who in 1867 married my 2nd G.Grandfather James Henry THOMAS in Boston, Lincs (presumably St. Botolph's, Boston). Their first child appears to have been my G.Grandmother, Alice THOMAS (born 1869 in Boston) as was Alice's brother Harry b: c1871. The next child that I know of was Emma who was born c1876 in Sheffield so obviously at some stage between 1871 and 1876 James Henry & Elizabeth brought their family from Boston to settle in Sheffield presumably for work reasons, James being a Bricklayer by trade. I presume you have some connection to a CHAMBERS family from Lincs, if so I would be pleased to hear of it, as it's not Sheffield related, mail me off list and we can see if there's any connection. Best Wishes Jeremy Crawshaw Crookes SHEFFIELD ---------------------------------------------------- Outgoing Mail protected by: NORTON Internet Security 2004 Updated: 9th February 2005 ---------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joanne Bradbury" <joanne.bradbury@sympatico.ca> To: "Jeremy Crawshaw" <jeremy.crawshaw@talktalk.net>; <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 9:55 PM Subject: RE: [SHEFF] Research Surnames > Hello Jeremy, > > I see the surname CHAMBERS from Lincolnshire in your research list. Any > connection with MILLS family in Horncastle or Wragby. > > Joanne in Toronto

After many versions of Heselwood, Elaine has found me this: HAZLEWOOD Thomas 20 YKS Sheffield 3494 55B In 1861, I cannot see the name spelt this way in the more recent census's so there may be a chance it is him, does anyone have more details from this? In 1871 he was Tom Heselwood, born INTAKE,Yorks. Aged 29 married to Ann (nee Mawe) a Railway Spring worker living at 7 Turin Street Attercliffe. RG10/4699-161-3. Their eldest child was shown as Ada aged 6. Many thanks Kay _____ From: kay-uk [mailto:kay-uk@btconnect.com] Sent: 12 February 2005 21:09 To: 'ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com' Subject: HESELWOOD THOMAS or TOM Can anyone help me try to trace back Thomas Heselwood, born approx 1841/2 at Intake. He married (but I cant find it) Ann Mawe, and I have them from 1871 onwards, in Attercliffe, but would like to try to find his parents/siblings. Sometimes he has been transcribed as Haselwood. Many Thanks Kay-UK

Hi I am researching my gt.grandfather's rise from Pawn Broker to owning a large Tailors and Gentleman's outfitters in West Bars. I know where the shop was but I am interested how long they were in business. They were there in 1900 and in 1914 they were making uniforms for the Army. They were one of the first company's to make ready-made uniforms for soldiers. I wondered if anyone has any later directories which would show the business as I know it continued until at least 1920 and may be longer. The original owner was William Rawson Surplice Whitworth but I know his son Ralph carried on the business for some years after his death. Many thanks Judy Elkington

Can anyone help me try to trace back Thomas Heselwood, born approx 1841/2 at Intake. He married (but I cant find it) Ann Mawe, and I have them from 1871 onwards, in Attercliffe, but would like to try to find his parents/siblings. Sometimes he has been transcribed as Haselwood. Many Thanks Kay-UK

Hi everyone Does anyone know whether the website - "Lost Pubs of Sheffield" - is temporarily off-air at the moment or has it disappeared altogether? http://www.swineherd.free-online.co.uk/lostpubs/ Regards Patrick

Hi Linda I have a few ancestors from Tickhill and I do have an 1851 census index for Tickhill, Wilsic, Wellingley and Stancil plus . If I can look anyone up for you in the index please let me know. Regards Stevie Smith Perth Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mel & Linda Kirby" <l.kirby2@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:51 AM Subject: Tickhill > Hi All, > Can anyone tell me where Tickhill is? I have an ancestor who appears on all the censuses with a birthplace of Malpass Hill, Yorkshire - however, on the 1861 it says Tickhill, Malpass Hill, Yorkshire. Am I right in presuming that Malpass Hill is an area of Tickhill? > If so, I have knocked another brick out of my wall, and gone back a bit further in time! > Many thanks, > Linda > > ______________________________

Hi List, I had occasion to visit the local archives here in Oldham today and while I was looking through the 1851 Census of Oldham came across the following someone may be interested in. James Eyre, aged 41, Mechanic, Address Retiro Street, Oldham Below Town. Born Yorkshire Sheffield. If anyone can claim him and would like the rest of the household, please get in touch. Best regards Christine Bocking in sunny Oldham (not) LOL

Hello Jeremy, I see the surname CHAMBERS from Lincolnshire in your research list. Any connection with MILLS family in Horncastle or Wragby. Joanne in Toronto -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy Crawshaw [mailto:jeremy.crawshaw@talktalk.net] Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 10:52 AM To: ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SHEFF] Research Surnames Hello List, Seeing as the list is a bit quiet at the moment I thought I would take the opportunity to post my surname interests to see if anyone out there has any connections. RESEARCHING Paternal Line CRAWSHAW (Dungworth / Storrs / Hilltop / Stannington / Bradfield / Hillsborough, Sheffield) HORSFIELD (Bradfield / Wadsley / Loxley, Sheffield) BARBER (Stannington, Bradfield) DRABBLE (Stannington, Bradfield) BRAMALL (Storrs / Hilltop / Stannington, Bradfield) MORTON (Stannington / Bradfield, Sheffield) SHARP(E) (Roscoe Wheel, Rivelin / Stannington, Bradfield) BRADWELL (Bradwell & Hope, Derbyshire / Stannington, Bradfield & Hillsborough, Sheffield) GOODISON (Stannington, Bradfield) OATES (Stannington, Bradfield) JENKINSON (Thorpe Hesley/Wentworth, Rotherham & Wadsley, Sheffield) WOOD (Hillsborough / Heeley, Sheffield) THOMAS (Boston, Lincolnshire & Hillsborough, Sheffield) CHAMBERS (Butterwick, Lincolnshire) ADSHEAD (Pitsmoor, Sheffield) Maternal Line HARTLEY (Morley/Holbeck, Leeds & Sheffield ) HOLLOWAY (Sheffield) FELL (Sheffield) FELL-HOLLOWAY (Sheffield) SHAW (Addy St, Upperthorpe, Sheffield & Ulley, Aston Parish) DRAKE (St. Philip's Rd, Sheffield) BEHR & BOTCHER (Liban, Russia) If anyone can see a familiar name/place please get in touch. Best Wishes Jeremy Crawshaw Crookes SHEFFIELD ---------------------------------------------------- Outgoing Mail protected by: NORTON Internet Security 2004 Updated: 9th February 2005 ---------------------------------------------------- ==== ENG-SHEFFIELD Mailing List ==== Visit http://www.genuki.org.uk/ for initial information on all aspects of genealogy in the UK.........For the Sheffield pages visit http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Sheffield/index.html ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Hello List, Seeing as the list is a bit quiet at the moment I thought I would take the opportunity to post my surname interests to see if anyone out there has any connections. RESEARCHING Paternal Line CRAWSHAW (Dungworth / Storrs / Hilltop / Stannington / Bradfield / Hillsborough, Sheffield) HORSFIELD (Bradfield / Wadsley / Loxley, Sheffield) BARBER (Stannington, Bradfield) DRABBLE (Stannington, Bradfield) BRAMALL (Storrs / Hilltop / Stannington, Bradfield) MORTON (Stannington / Bradfield, Sheffield) SHARP(E) (Roscoe Wheel, Rivelin / Stannington, Bradfield) BRADWELL (Bradwell & Hope, Derbyshire / Stannington, Bradfield & Hillsborough, Sheffield) GOODISON (Stannington, Bradfield) OATES (Stannington, Bradfield) JENKINSON (Thorpe Hesley/Wentworth, Rotherham & Wadsley, Sheffield) WOOD (Hillsborough / Heeley, Sheffield) THOMAS (Boston, Lincolnshire & Hillsborough, Sheffield) CHAMBERS (Butterwick, Lincolnshire) ADSHEAD (Pitsmoor, Sheffield) Maternal Line HARTLEY (Morley/Holbeck, Leeds & Sheffield ) HOLLOWAY (Sheffield) FELL (Sheffield) FELL-HOLLOWAY (Sheffield) SHAW (Addy St, Upperthorpe, Sheffield & Ulley, Aston Parish) DRAKE (St. Philip's Rd, Sheffield) BEHR & BOTCHER (Liban, Russia) If anyone can see a familiar name/place please get in touch. Best Wishes Jeremy Crawshaw Crookes SHEFFIELD ---------------------------------------------------- Outgoing Mail protected by: NORTON Internet Security 2004 Updated: 9th February 2005 ----------------------------------------------------

Hi, I would just like to say thanks to Jeremy, Margaret and Angela for your responses. What a helpful list. Thanks again Craig in Melbourne Australia _____ From: Craig Murray [mailto:murraycj@bigpond.com] Sent: Thursday, 10 February 2005 9:26 PM To: 'ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com' Subject: Posting Interests - ROBERTS JEWITT GASCOIGNE BOOKER Hi Everyone, I'm researching my GGG Grandparents Mary Ann Gascoigne ROBERTS nee JEWITT (b 1802 d 1882) and John ROBERTS (b abt 1799 d July 1855). They and their children all appear to all have been born in Sheffield. John was a cutlery manufacturer. I would love to hear from anyone that may have a similar interest. I think that I may have found Mary on the 1871 census (living in Nth Meols) however her occupation is shown as 'Int Money Indian Coupons'. Does anyone know what this means? Thanks Craig Murray in Melbourne, Australia

Greetings Hugh Thank you for the information, it is most useful to me Jenny (Whitby)

Hi Jeremy I would be very interested in the list, mentioned in the E. Mail Regards Jenny )Whitby)

Hi All, I want to thank everyone for all the help given to me to break down this brick wall. I think I have found her <Yippee> I will let you all know what happens. Thank you all soooo much, it was very much appreciated believe me. Regards Sylvia South Africa

Hi, I recently obtained the death certificate for John ROOTSTEN after some wonderful suggestion from Hugh Waterhouse. I am in particular looking for evidence that John ROOTSTEN and Lewis ROOTSTEN are related. On the death certificate dated the 16th July 1878, an L ROOTSTEN is listed on the death certificate as the informant and son of the deceased. However, the marriage certificate of Lewis ROOTSTEN and Sarah COHEN states that his Father was Elijah ROOTSTEN and he was deceased, the marriage certificate is dated 01 Nov 1871 at the Great Synagogue, Manchester. I know both Lewis and John were listed on the 1871 census in Sheffield at separate addresses and Lewis returned to live in Sheffield after his wedding. I know there is a connection between the two men because they are listed in a number of Sheffield Trade directories with the same occupations and addresses. The two addresses on the death certificates for John; 40 West Bar Green and Lewis; 16 Scotland Street were both used as picture framing businesses and Lewis continued to trade/live at these addresses after 1878. There maybe a mistake on the marriage certificate or for some reason he may have wanted to keep his father a secret. John could be an anglicised version of Elijah. Both men are listed as being born in Poland in the Census. So it's not beyond the realms of possibility that John was Lewis's father. I'm wondering if anybody can help me find John's burial place, so that maybe I can find an inscription. I'm not sure if John is Jewish or not and he maybe under Elijah ROOTSTEN/ROOTSTEIN/ROOTSTON. Any help at all will be greatly appreciated. Many Thanks, Louise Gateshead, Tyne & Wear Researching CROS(S)LAND (Sheffield, Wakefield), ASTLEY (Wakefield), BENNETT (Wakefield, Rotherham), BRADBURY (Wakefield) RUDSTON (Sheffield), ROOTSTEN (Sheffield)