In a message dated 08/03/2005 11:00:07 GMT Standard Time, mavisgg@btinternet.com writes: I have a marriage certificate for ANN BARSTOW and JOHN HODGSON on 13th April 1873, does anyone have access to the parish record film for St. Mary's? I am querying the witnesses given as Maria Barstow and Allen Barstow as I cannot find either of these names amongst the Barstows on any census. I think they may be Maurice and maybe Selina. Hi I don't think that their names would both be wrong. Just because they are not on a census doesn't mean that they didn't exist. What you have to remember with a census is, that it is just a list of people spending the night at that particular address. The enumerator could have missed them or they could have been abroad on holiday. You do not say what makes you believe that they were called something else, but surely there would have been no need to lie. Or perhaps they didn't have any witnesses and these two were asked at the church door if they would witness the marriage and the names were made up. How old were the participants. Is it likely that they were under 21 and needed parental permission. In which case they may have lied about their names, after all the vicar is hardly likely to ask for proof of identification. If you could give the year and place of birth for the bride I can look her up for you. There are many reasons. I hope you find the right one. Best wishes JUDY ELKINGTON _www.elkingtonfamily.com_ (http://www.elklingtonfamily.com/) ELKINGTON-L@rootsweb.com

Hi All It's a little last minute but if anyone is interested, Malcolm Nunn is giving a talk and slide show about the Sheffield Flood tomorrow night [Tuesday 8th March] at the Malin Bridge Inn at 7.30pm. If anyone is able to attend it would be good to say hello in person! Best Regards Karen Lightowler Doncaster South Yorkshire Researching the victims of the Sheffield Flood

Hi All For various reasons I'l be taking a short break and may be offline for a while. OK, you can stop the cheering, jeering, whistling and banner waving ...................... I will be returning. In my absence the new list admin will be Jeremy Crawshaw. I'm sure many of you will already know of Jeremy through his participation onlist. He has been a list member for some time now and is a regular poster to the list. From tomorrow evening (Mon 6th March) for about a week or so, all list related and admin mail will be dealt with by Jeremy. Regards Gordon List Admin (in Sheffield) Sheffield Genealogy Website : http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~engsheffield -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 04/03/2005

Hi Josephine The book is only 3yrs old, published 2001. You can obtain a copy of the book from any good bookstore (in Sheffield that is) or over the internet, access the following webpage for the ISBN#. Just type the ISBN # into a search engine and it should bring up details of where a copy can be obtained over the internet. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~engsheffield/webpages/books.htm Although all the streets mentioned (plus I would assume many others) were on Dixon owned land originally, not all the streets were named after family members. The original street name of Garth wasnt necessarily a Dixon family name. The Garry street name being named after a family pet should be taken "with a pinch of salt" as we say over here. Regards Gordon List Admin (in Sheffield) Sheffield Genealogy Website : http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~engsheffield -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 04/03/2005

Hi Josephine The following street name extracts are taken from Peter Harvey's book "Street Names of Sheffield". Peter Harvey carried out extensive research over a number of years in an attempt to compile the most precise information possible. However, he does state that some of the information he gives are deductions which he came to after being unsuccessful at finding further information about a particular street. Dixon Lane, Sheffield 1 .............. is one of the oldest street names in the city. It can be traced back to the seventeenth century. Almost certainly the name comes from the surname of an ancient resident, but nobody knows who he was. Dixon Street, Sheffield 6 ..................... from the same family as the Dixon Road above. The family works were on nearby Cornish Place. Land and houses near the works were sold by auction after the death of Henry Isaac Dixon in 1912. Dixon Rd, Sheffield 6 ................. after the Dixon family, of the well known cutlery firm, James Dixon and sons. The Dixons lived for some years at Hillsborough Hall, which was later a branch library. When part of their land was developed, the streets were mostly given family names :................. DOROTHY, one of James Willis Dixon's children, Gladys, married Reginald Thorpe Wilson, of Bolsterstone. Dorothy, born 1901, was their daughter. GARRY, this road was origiunally named Garth Road but renamed in 1903. It was reportedly named after a Dixon family pet called "Garry", but a surviving Dixon family member who Peter Harvey contacted couldnt confirm this. LENNOX , after Lennox Burton Dixon SHEPPERSON, after James Willis Dixon.s wife who was Anne Shepperson. WARNER, after Sir Pelham "Plum" Warner.(cricketer) A close friend of Archibald Willis & Lennox Burton Dixon. WILLIS, after Archibald Willis Dixon. WYNARD, after Wynard Dixon son of J W Dixon. Regards Gordon List Admin (in Sheffield) Sheffield Genealogy Website : http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~engsheffield ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Laxton" <rlaxton@rogers.com> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 5:24 AM Subject: RE: [SHEFF] Sheffield Street Names... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Josephine Laxton [mailto:rlaxton@rogers.com] > Sent: March 5, 2005 6:15 PM > To: Elaine Pickard > Subject: RE: [SHEFF] Sheffield Street Names... > > > Hi List and Elaine, > Thankyou Elaine for the list of street names circa 1700. I have been > trying to find out how far back the naming of Dixon Lane took place... I > knew it was on Goslings Map and there were references to it, but I have > not > yet figured out which Dixon it was named for. Hay Market is evocative as > at > least one of the Dixons was running the Sheffield Market in the 1730's. > the > naming of the street would now seem to precede this particular Dixon... > Has > anyone any ideas on this subject, or are there any particular references > which I could refer to which might give the source and authority for the > naming of Sheffield Streets? kindest regards, Josephine, Ontario, Canada. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elaine Pickard [mailto:trayford@rogers.com] > Sent: March 5, 2005 2:09 PM > To: ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SHEFF] Sheffield Street Names... > > > Hi List, > > Useful street names found in Sheffield prior to 1900... > > http://www.omnesamici.co.uk/MemoriesPre20thCentStreetNames1700.html > > Regards > > Elaine. > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.1 - Release Date: 3/4/2005 > > > ==== ENG-SHEFFIELD Mailing List ==== > DO NOT post VIRUS or OFF TOPIC messages to Eng-Sheffield. Off topic > content > messages should be sent to the list admin instead. For Virus help access > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/announce.html#virus > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== ENG-SHEFFIELD Mailing List ==== > All internet users should have a virus detection program installed. If you > dont have one then please install one immediately. > ***** You Know It Makes Sense ***** > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 04/03/2005 > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 04/03/2005

Hi Gordon and List, Thankyou very much for the insight re Dixon Lane... I have a few candidates for who'm the street may have been named, but need to do a bit more research first. I shall certainly try and find a copy of Peter Harvey's Book as it is interesting in itself. A good resource for Sheffield Streets. I do know that a Mr. Ellison a trusted retainer of the Dukes of Norfolk was given some leeway and responsibility for the naming of some Sheffield Streets for a certain period of time in the 1700's. Please forgive my ignorance but could someone please give me a little more information as to when Peter Harvey's Book was Published and maybe the Publisher's name...as Peter Harvey reports, the streets named for the sons of James Dixon and his family, were added on at least a hundred years later... as far as the name Garry/Garth goes, I must say that of all the Dixons living in Sheffield I have no Garth or Garry recorded. and as I have about two thousand Dixon names on record, I would think it very likely that this was a pet's name... please feel free to correct me if anyone knows anything different.this is the most complicated research I have ever undertaken. I had no idea how convoluted the Dixon lines really were. Thankyou again Gordon, kindest regards, Josephine. -----Original Message----- From: SheffGens [mailto:SheffGens@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: March 6, 2005 9:43 AM To: ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SHEFF] Sheffield Street Names... Hi Josephine The following street name extracts are taken from Peter Harvey's book "Street Names of Sheffield". Peter Harvey carried out extensive research over a number of years in an attempt to compile the most precise information possible. However, he does state that some of the information he gives are deductions which he came to after being unsuccessful at finding further information about a particular street. Dixon Lane, Sheffield 1 .............. is one of the oldest street names in the city. It can be traced back to the seventeenth century. Almost certainly the name comes from the surname of an ancient resident, but nobody knows who he was. Dixon Street, Sheffield 6 ..................... from the same family as the Dixon Road above. The family works were on nearby Cornish Place. Land and houses near the works were sold by auction after the death of Henry Isaac Dixon in 1912. Dixon Rd, Sheffield 6 ................. after the Dixon family, of the well known cutlery firm, James Dixon and sons. The Dixons lived for some years at Hillsborough Hall, which was later a branch library. When part of their land was developed, the streets were mostly given family names :................. DOROTHY, one of James Willis Dixon's children, Gladys, married Reginald Thorpe Wilson, of Bolsterstone. Dorothy, born 1901, was their daughter. GARRY, this road was origiunally named Garth Road but renamed in 1903. It was reportedly named after a Dixon family pet called "Garry", but a surviving Dixon family member who Peter Harvey contacted couldnt confirm this. LENNOX , after Lennox Burton Dixon SHEPPERSON, after James Willis Dixon.s wife who was Anne Shepperson. WARNER, after Sir Pelham "Plum" Warner.(cricketer) A close friend of Archibald Willis & Lennox Burton Dixon. WILLIS, after Archibald Willis Dixon. WYNARD, after Wynard Dixon son of J W Dixon. Regards Gordon List Admin (in Sheffield) Sheffield Genealogy Website : http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~engsheffield ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Laxton" <rlaxton@rogers.com> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 5:24 AM Subject: RE: [SHEFF] Sheffield Street Names... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Josephine Laxton [mailto:rlaxton@rogers.com] > Sent: March 5, 2005 6:15 PM > To: Elaine Pickard > Subject: RE: [SHEFF] Sheffield Street Names... > > > Hi List and Elaine, > Thankyou Elaine for the list of street names circa 1700. I have been > trying to find out how far back the naming of Dixon Lane took place... I > knew it was on Goslings Map and there were references to it, but I have > not > yet figured out which Dixon it was named for. Hay Market is evocative as > at > least one of the Dixons was running the Sheffield Market in the 1730's. > the > naming of the street would now seem to precede this particular Dixon... > Has > anyone any ideas on this subject, or are there any particular references > which I could refer to which might give the source and authority for the > naming of Sheffield Streets? kindest regards, Josephine, Ontario, Canada. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elaine Pickard [mailto:trayford@rogers.com] > Sent: March 5, 2005 2:09 PM > To: ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SHEFF] Sheffield Street Names... > > > Hi List, > > Useful street names found in Sheffield prior to 1900... > > http://www.omnesamici.co.uk/MemoriesPre20thCentStreetNames1700.html > > Regards > > Elaine. > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.1 - Release Date: 3/4/2005 > > > ==== ENG-SHEFFIELD Mailing List ==== > DO NOT post VIRUS or OFF TOPIC messages to Eng-Sheffield. 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In a message dated 05/03/2005 19:09:08 GMT Standard Time, trayford@rogers.com writes: Useful street names found in Sheffield prior to 1900... http://www.omnesamici.co.uk/MemoriesPre20thCentStreetNames1700.html Hi Elaine, Do you know what the boundaries were for Sheffield in those days. It is sometimes difficult to remember that the city [town then] boundary extended over the years to what is now. I think, if I remember rightly that I saw as a Child a notice at Fox House, say City Boundary. Best Wishes Judy Elkington

-----Original Message----- From: Josephine Laxton [mailto:rlaxton@rogers.com] Sent: March 5, 2005 6:15 PM To: Elaine Pickard Subject: RE: [SHEFF] Sheffield Street Names... Hi List and Elaine, Thankyou Elaine for the list of street names circa 1700. I have been trying to find out how far back the naming of Dixon Lane took place... I knew it was on Goslings Map and there were references to it, but I have not yet figured out which Dixon it was named for. Hay Market is evocative as at least one of the Dixons was running the Sheffield Market in the 1730's. the naming of the street would now seem to precede this particular Dixon... Has anyone any ideas on this subject, or are there any particular references which I could refer to which might give the source and authority for the naming of Sheffield Streets? kindest regards, Josephine, Ontario, Canada. -----Original Message----- From: Elaine Pickard [mailto:trayford@rogers.com] Sent: March 5, 2005 2:09 PM To: ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SHEFF] Sheffield Street Names... Hi List, Useful street names found in Sheffield prior to 1900... http://www.omnesamici.co.uk/MemoriesPre20thCentStreetNames1700.html Regards Elaine. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.1 - Release Date: 3/4/2005 ==== ENG-SHEFFIELD Mailing List ==== DO NOT post VIRUS or OFF TOPIC messages to Eng-Sheffield. Off topic content messages should be sent to the list admin instead. For Virus help access http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/announce.html#virus ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hi List, Useful street names found in Sheffield prior to 1900... http://www.omnesamici.co.uk/MemoriesPre20thCentStreetNames1700.html Regards Elaine. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.1 - Release Date: 3/4/2005

Hi there. Can anyone please look at 116 Backfields, Ecclesall Bierlow. I HOPE to find a Mary Ward with son Thomas. She doesn't seem to be listed on any index I can see. Mary died there 9 days later at that address so she SHOULD be there on the 7th April. Thank you for taking the trouble. Sheila

hello Angela, and David I had found the burial of Frank CHEATLE's first wife at Wardsend and this 1861 listing connects another two CHEATLEs buried there with this family: NBI for St Philip's, Sheffield (burials in Wardsend Cemetery) CHEATLE Emma 12 Feb 1863 York Place 10 da William CHEATLE William Henry 6 Apr 1865 York Place 5w so Wm Henry One other burial, in Tinsley Park. I don't know if there's any connection. CHEATLE Ann 16 Nov 1908 72 years widow 558 Coleridge Rd Darnall ref: IB51nc Hugh in Sheffield ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Treweek" <atreweek@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 8:27 AM Subject: [SHEFF] CHEATLE 1861 > You may have this but it appears they have been mis-transcribed in 1861. > > Even down to a mistake in the surname on what appears to be the same > household. > > CHEAKE ,William, 58, LEI, Ashby De La Zouche, 3463, 12B, > CHEATTE, Mary Ann, 49, ---,Highgate Nr Birmingh, 3463, 12B, > CHEATTE, William Henry, 27, WAR, ,Leamington Spa, 3463, 12B > CHEATTE, Frank, 17, DBY, Codnor Park, 3463, 12B, > CHEATTE, Mary, 10, DBY, Codnor Park, 3463, 12B > CHEATTE, Emma, 8 DBY, Codnor Park, 3463, 12B > > Regards > > > > CHEALLE, Thomas, 23, WAR, Lemington, 3493, 14F, > CHEALLE, Alice, 19, YKS, Ecclesfield, 3493, 14F, > > > > > Angela (LEE) Eckington U.K.

Hello, I am interested in the following names inthe Sheffield region GEARY C1890 onwards ROSE C1832 to 1860 PADLEY C1831 to 1860 These are family I do not have a lot on. Any Help would be very helpful. John Rose died in 1860 in Sheffield and I cannot find him on the 1851 census anywhere. Father listed as William ROSE. Martha Padley who married John ROSE is a mystery as well. Her father is listed as William PADLEY. Nothing ele is known. At the time of their marriage they where living in Sheffield Park. Have not been able to get a census listing of 1851 to checked and see if they are there. Thank you in advance for any help at all. Vicki Overcast Perth Western Australia

You may have this but it appears they have been mis-transcribed in 1861. Even down to a mistake in the surname on what appears to be the same household. CHEAKE ,William, 58, LEI, Ashby De La Zouche, 3463, 12B, CHEATTE, Mary Ann, 49, ---,Highgate Nr Birmingh, 3463, 12B, CHEATTE, William Henry, 27, WAR, ,Leamington Spa, 3463, 12B CHEATTE, Frank, 17, DBY, Codnor Park, 3463, 12B, CHEATTE, Mary, 10, DBY, Codnor Park, 3463, 12B CHEATTE, Emma, 8 DBY, Codnor Park, 3463, 12B Regards CHEALLE, Thomas, 23, WAR, Lemington, 3493, 14F, CHEALLE, Alice, 19, YKS, Ecclesfield, 3493, 14F, Angela (LEE) Eckington U.K.

HI. I found these in the 1851 census index for Derbyshire. Name / Age / Piece / Page / Schedule Cheatle,William,48, ,2145,493,86 Cheatle,Mary A.,38, ,2145,493,86 Cheatle,Henry,16, ,2145,493,86 Cheatle,Thomas,14, ,2145,493,86 Cheatle,Frank Cor,7, ,2145,493,86 Cheatle,Mary,5,m, 2145,493,86 Regards Angela (LEE) Eckington U.K.

I am enquiring if anybody has CHEATLE interests or is researching this surname Thanks to the list for all their help with Julia HINDE. 1891 census (SDFHS) ref: piece 3817 e.d. 8 folio 51 67 Malinda St (Sheffield North) Cheatle Frank Head Widr 46 steel roller DBY Codnor Park Cheatle Albert Son Unm 24 cabinet maker YKS Sheffield Hinde Julia Unm 34 house keeper Nottingham Hinde Elizabeth Dau 8 scholar YKS Sheffield Hinde Ernest Son 1 YKS Sheffield 1901 census (index) Sheffield Frank CHEATLE 58 Wire Roller Codnor Park Derbys Julia CHEATLE 44 Nottinghamshire Ernest CHEATLE 11 Sheffield Yorks Nellie CHEATLE 9 Sheffield Yorks You may have this marriage (from FreeBMD) Marriages Dec Qtr 1897 CHEATLE Frank Sheffield 9c 1035 HINDE Julia Sheffield 9c1035 This below from the 1891 UK Census:- Cheatle Frank Head Widr 46 steel roller DBY Codnor Park Cheatle Albert Son Unm 24 cabinet maker YKS Sheffield Hinde Julia Unm 34 house keeper Nottingham Hinde Elizabeth Dau 8 scholar YKS Sheffield Hinde Ernest Son 1 YKS Sheffield

Hi Vicki, Had a bit of trouble because of the lack of dates.. but does this death match what you have for John Rose..... Rose John 13 Feb 1861 18 Feb 1861 1861 Bailey St 45 Razor Grinder 10595 A61 (General cemetery) if you have a look at the 1841 census index which is only partially complete but might offer some help... http://www.sheff-indexers.thewholeshebang.org/1841census/ found a Padley family also on Bailey St in the 1841 census index but the daughters name was Mary. Father William. Hope this help. Elaine in Ottawa. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.1 - Release Date: 3/4/2005

Hello all !, Was wondering if anyone could find a William Hartley, Born Sheffield abt 1850 - would be 11yrs old on the 1861 census. Thanks Sarah

Hello, I am looking for any information on a George Parkin, born at Misson, Notts in 1850 He married Mary R Mappin 1881 census they are living at 58 Harrison Street, Kimberworth, Yorks Samuel Mappin 68ys wid Ret. Joiners tool maker b. Sheffield Mary R. Parkin dau 27ys b.Sheffield George Parkin son/l 31ys Boiler Revitter b.Misson Notts Thomas M Parkin g/son 7ys b.Sheffield William K.Parkin g/son 5ys b.Sheffield Charles H. Parkin g/son 3ys b.Sheffield Violet A. Parkin g/dau 2ys b.Holme Kimberworth If anyone is researching this family please get in touch and any information would be greatly appreciated Thank you Derek Wells Crowle, N.Lincs -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.2 - Release Date: 28/02/2005

Hello all, Just like to list my surname interests in this area. HOBSON (Worsborough Dale, Ecclesall Bierlow, Sheffield, Hunslet,Leeds) 1796 - ELLIOTT (Derbyshire, Totley 1700 - HATFIELD (Mirfield) 1800 - FIELDING - Hunslet, Leeds 1796 - GOODWORTH - Sheffield 1867 WOOD - Sheffield 1860 Thanks Bert Hobson

hello Dave, This looks like the only candidate in the SDFHS transcription. An odd looking household. I can't be sure if I have them in the right order. Julia's 'relationship' to head' appears to be blank. 1891 census (SDFHS) ref: piece 3817 e.d. 8 folio 51 67 Malinda St (Sheffield North) Cheatle Frank Head Widr 46 steel roller DBY Codnor Park Cheatle Albert Son Unm 24 cabinet maker YKS Sheffield Hinde Julia Unm 34 house keeper Nottingham Hinde Elizabeth Dau 8 scholar YKS Sheffield Hinde Ernest Son 1 YKS Sheffield Hugh in Sheffield ----- Original Message ----- From: "david hinde" <david@hinde1988.fsbusiness.co.uk> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 9:00 PM Subject: [SHEFF] 1891 Census Look Up Please - ERNEST HINDE Born June Quarter 1890,Sheffield > Hello Listers, > Hope that you can find Ernest Hinde,Born Sheffield June Quarter in 1890,in the 1891 Census with family please. > > Most Grateful for your listers kind help.Thank You. > > > David Hinde