Hi List I was wondering is someone could answer a little puzzle I have with the 1861 census. Sheffield Archives list folios 2420 and 2421 [film nos. 246/K1/1 to 246/K1/2] and 3503-3513 for Rotherham. I have bought the census for [supposedly!] the whole of Yorkshire from S&N Genealogy but the CD’s start from folio RG9/3174. I was wondering where folios 2420 and 2421 fit in? Hope someone can explain.TIA Karen Lightowler Doncaster, South Yorkshire Researching the Sheffield Flood

One child's experience of school was not too positive! Sheffield Independent 2nd June 1911 page5 The 12 year old boy of George Collier of 12 Clarence Street, Sheffield, whose disappearance on 28th April was announced by the Sheffield Independent has been discovered at Todmorden. The boy answering Colliers description was taken into custody for wandering abroad without a proper guardian and the Sheffield police authorities advised Mrs Collier to go over and see the lad who had given the name of Reed. She returned yesterday bringing her son with her looking as though he had had enough of his wandering life. He said that he had been roaming the country since his disappearance, and as a reason for running away from home said that he had been caned by his schoolmaster for going late. He had been late several times because he had been out delivering papers, his father being out of work. Glenn Piper researching PIPER-UK. Sheffield 1911 newspapers on cd/dvd. Free surname and general index. Other indexes in progress. See www.cpiper.freeserve.co.uk I use Archive books to help my research. www.archivecdbooks.org

Hi Could someone be kind enough to do a look-up for 1861 Census. My family came from Dukinfield, Cheshire after the 1851 Census. They stopped off at Barnsley where Samuel was born. They appeared in the Grimesthorpe area 1861, with the death of the mother 26.09.1861. As the census was 6-7th April 1861, It is possible the family are on the census. I was given the above death information by one of your research team. The family:- HENRY COOPER b: 31.01.1821 Manchester. m. 1840 A-U-L. RACHEL (TAYLOR) b.1821 Sheffield. d. 26.9.61 Grimesthorpe, Sheffield. Ref: MI's M78. St Thomas. (She was shown to be living at Baggaley. Brightside Bierlow ). Son:- JOHN b.1841 Dukinfield: (age 20) Son:- RICHARD b. 1842 Dukinfield: (age 19) Dau:- MARY ANNE b. 1844 Dukinfield: (age 17) Son:- JAMES b. 1845 Dukinfield: (age 16) Son:- THOMAS b. 1847 Dukinfield: (age 14) Son:- GEORGE b. 1849 Dukinfield: (age 12) Son:- ROBERT b. 1850 Dukinfield: (age 11) Dau:- MARY b. 1855 Dukinfield: (age 6) Dau:- JEMIMA b. 1856 Dukinfield: (age 5) Son:- SAMUEL b. 1859 Barnsley: (age 2) I hope that the 1861 Census will show them all together. The 1871 will be difficult, as they may be all split up ??? Regards Keith (Canada) (Fingers crossed)

Hi Karen, I've been trying to send this email for several days now - BT have made some changes and it's messed up my email............ I have Eliza NICHOLS (17) marrying William THOMPSON (24) on 2nd June 1847 in the parish church, Sheffield. These are my gggg grandparents. I have found Eliza's parents on the IGI - Isaac NICHOLS born circa 1811 and Leah JACKSON born circa 1806. The family are living in BENTS in 1841:- Isaac (30) Cutler J Leah (35) Eliza (10) Abraham (8) Isaac (6) Emily (2) Sarah (1) I have also found a death/burial for Jacob (1+) in May 1838. Also from the IGI but not otherwise confirmed:- marriage of Isaac and Leah in Ecclesfield 28 March 1826 birth of Isaac 26/2/1808 and baptism 03/04/1808 - Presbyterian, Stannington Father of Isaac is Abraham NICHOLS, born 1782, baptized 24/11/1782, died 17/7/1859 Father of Abraham possibly Samuel NICKOLS, baptized 02/12/1761? Do any of these names link into your NICHOLLS family? Kind regards. Jane Chesterfield (UK) Researching:- BARKER, BARTHOLOMEW, COOPER, CRAPPER, CRAWSHAW, EARNSHAW, HAWKE, HIBBERD, JESSOP, MILNER, STEAD(E), THOMPSON and WOOD, all in the Sheffield, Bradfield, Norton area. -----Original Message----- From: KARENL823@aol.com [mailto:KARENL823@aol.com] Sent: 18 March 2005 19:35 To: ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SHEFF] Joseph NICHOLLS [Non Conformist Records] Hi List I am looking for a Joseph NICHOLLS who married a lady called Sithe and I know they had 3 children baptised at Underbank Unitarian Chapel at Stannington between 1808 and 1813.

Hello everyone, I wonder if someone could point me in the right direction. I have a family who appear on the 1871 census in Sheffield..(RG10/4695 page 827 at 23 Earsham Street) George HARTLEY (b c1838) and Martha FELTRUP (b c1839) (married at Christ Church Pitsmoor, 22 June 1862) with their children Ernest Hartley Feltrup(b 11 Jan 1861) Frederick James Hartley(b 17 Jan 1863) Ada Alice Hartley(b 1867) Eliza Ann Hartley(c 1869) William Hartley(b 1871) I have just found them in Victoria Australia by 1877 when their daughter Kate was born. I suspect the whole family emigrated together. Does anyone know if there are emmigration records of people moving from England to Australia (or immigration records in Australia) and if so where might I consult them? Thanks as always. Ewart Harrogate North Yorkshire

Morning List and Happy Easter to all........ The 1841 census is I hope on its last push this weekend to have most of it typed if not checked. We have uploaded a fair amount of new material to the site which I hope you are all aware of. http://www.sheff-indexers.thewholeshebang.org/1841census Hope you are finding it as useful as we expected it would be.... Regards. Elaine Pickard. Sheffield Indexers. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005

Hello All, Just been browsing on eBay and found this item which might be of interest to anyone researching the surname OLIVANT in Sheffield. Sheffield School Board 1882 Manor School Certificate which reads - "It is hereby certified that during the year ended January 1882, Sarah OLIVANT made 441 attendances & passed H.M.Inspector's Examination in Reading, Writing & Arithmetic in the First Standard". Jno.(or Ino.) F.Moss, Clerk of The Board. Printed by Pawson & Brailsford, Sheffield. The certificate measures 11.25 inches x 8.25 inches. If you have OLIVANT'S in Sheffield this Sarah could be one of yours. Best Wishes Jeremy Crawshaw Crookes SHEFFIELD ---------------------------------------------------- Outgoing Mail protected by: NORTON Internet Security 2004 Updated: 22nd March 2005 ----------------------------------------------------

Morning Ewart, I am sure that when Gordon and I were putting together the Web Site that we placed information on Australian Immigration there........... http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~engsheffield/ I was able to find information on Cyndi's List also..... Google for the state in which they emigrated to is also another way of finding the information you require. Regards. Elaine. in Ottawa. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005

My thanks to all who kindly answered my query. This time I will bookmark them. Mike Greatorex of Harrogate, England http://www.freewebs.com/greatorexfamily/ Looking for all members of the Greatorex family in the following areas. Sheffield and North Notts, England/NY State/Alabama/Florida and Philadelphia.

Would someone going to the Sheffield Archives please be kind enough to do a look up for me? I am looking for confirmation that Richard ELLIOTT was born or baptised on 16 Sept 1832. He lived in the Sheffield area all his life, although he was married in Ecclesall, so it is possible he was baptised there. I should really appreciate any help. It is really frustrating me not being able to prove this! Regards Margaret Switzerland

Hi Tina, The Sheffield Family History Society recorded the majority of the monumental inscriptions at Wardsend Cemetery a few years ago. They are available to view at Sheffield Archives and at the office of the Hillsborough Community Development Trust at the Walled Garden in Hillsborough Park, Sheffield. As both these options aren't very practical for you in Kent, I'll have a look for you next time I'm in the Trust office(probably next week) and I'll contact you off list with my findings. Hope this helps, Dave Yates Friends of Wardsend Cemetery ======================================== Message date : Mar 24 2005, 03:07 PM From : "Tina Link" To : ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com Copy to : Subject : [SHEFF] Memorial Inscriptions at Wardsend Cemetery Hello all, After having a break from my Sheffield PARKIN family I am now back with renewed vigour.!! I have visted the website for Wardsend Cemetery where I know that my great grandfather Mark William Liddle PARKIN was buried on Aug 13th 1903. The grave is in section K number 389. His son Edwin Arthur is also in the same grave, he was buried on Dec 2nd 1885. Would anyone know whether this section has been cleared and Inscriptions noted please. Any help will be greatly appreciated, thankyou. Kind Reagrds, Tina in Kent. While I'm here my names of interest are - PARKIN, STOREY, STRAW, BEATSON, GILBERT, CROOKES, HIBBERD, MOORHOUSE, BARNES. ==== ENG-SHEFFIELD Mailing List ==== E-mail etiquette - CAPITALISE only research surnames, other CAPITALisation usually means you are SHOUTING!!! and may be interpreted as being offensive. ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm

Hello all, After having a break from my Sheffield PARKIN family I am now back with renewed vigour.!! I have visted the website for Wardsend Cemetery where I know that my great grandfather Mark William Liddle PARKIN was buried on Aug 13th 1903. The grave is in section K number 389. His son Edwin Arthur is also in the same grave, he was buried on Dec 2nd 1885. Would anyone know whether this section has been cleared and Inscriptions noted please. Any help will be greatly appreciated, thankyou. Kind Reagrds, Tina in Kent. While I'm here my names of interest are - PARKIN, STOREY, STRAW, BEATSON, GILBERT, CROOKES, HIBBERD, MOORHOUSE, BARNES.

Hi Mike Theres a webpage of useful links including Occupations / Trades, on Sheffield Genealogy & Family History website (url below). Click on the "Other Genealogy sites" link in the "Recommended sites" section. Alternatively, click the following link to access the page direct. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~engsheffield/webpages/linkspage.htm Regards Gordon List Admin (in Sheffield) Sheffield Genealogy Website : http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~engsheffield ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Greatorex" <mgreato@jmgreatorex.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:43 AM Subject: [SHEFF] Questions on Trade > All, when I was last subscribed to this list someone identified > a web site which identified and gave descriptions of old "trades". > > Of course I didnt keep a note of this, the old story I'm afraid. > > Does anyone know what the address of this site was? > > Regards > > Mike Greatorex of Harrogate, England > http://www.freewebs.com/greatorexfamily/ > Looking for all members of the Greatorex family in the following areas. > Sheffield and North Notts, England/NY State/Alabama/Florida and > Philadelphia. > > > ==== ENG-SHEFFIELD Mailing List ==== > Visit http://www.genuki.org.uk/ for initial information on all > aspects of genealogy in the UK.........For the Sheffield pages visit > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Sheffield/index.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.0 - Release Date: 21/03/2005 > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.0 - Release Date: 21/03/2005

All, when I was last subscribed to this list someone identified a web site which identified and gave descriptions of old "trades". Of course I didnt keep a note of this, the old story I'm afraid. Does anyone know what the address of this site was? Regards Mike Greatorex of Harrogate, England http://www.freewebs.com/greatorexfamily/ Looking for all members of the Greatorex family in the following areas. Sheffield and North Notts, England/NY State/Alabama/Florida and Philadelphia.

http://www.cpcug.org/user/jlacombe/terms. htmlhttp://www.cpcug.org/user/jlacombe/terms.html Margaret NOTTS UK All, when I was last subscribed to this list someone identified a web site which identified and gave descriptions of old "trades". Of course I didnt keep a note of this, the old story I'm afraid. Does anyone know what the address of this site was? Regards Mike Greatorex of Harrogate, England

Dear Listers, Again, I apologize for the delay in posting the update, but it has been a week to forget computer-wise! The latest update includes many new email changes and 76 new submissions. Sadly, some listers still forget to tell me when they change emails, as you can see from the latest list of defaulters, below. One, particulary, resulted in the deletion of 35 entries. I am sorry for the inconvenience this causes you and ask you to remember, please let me know when you change emails. Send me your OLD address as well as your NEW address and I’ll do all the rest. Many thanks. Best wishes for the Easter Season. Here, in Northern Portugal, we are importing a bit of Yorkshire as my husband’s cousin, her husband and two daughters with respective husbands and children are all coming over from Wentworth for my grandson Tomás christening. And they’re all staying with me so it should be great fun! Magdalena YKS Surnames List Administrator ................. DEFAULTERS WHOSE SUBMISSIONS HAVE BEEN DELETED: Olga Lewis (3) lewiso@renc.igs.net Lisa Tymon (1) paul.tymon@which.net Brian Barraclough (1) bbara4@hotmail.com Elaine Barry (1) barryfam@ais.net.au Jenny Campbell (3) Geojen@campbells63.fsnet.co.uk Jim Brook (2) james.brook@which.net Betty King (35) BettyJKing@hotmail.com LIST OF NEW SUBMISSIONS THIS UPDATE: ABRAM, AKE, ARMSTRONG BAMFORTH, BLACKWELL, BOOL, BRAY, BRIGHAM BROOK, BUTTERFIELD CALVERT, CHAPMAN, COATES, COOKE, CREASSER CUNLIFFE DAVIES, DAVISON, DAWSON, DAYES, DICKINSON FISHER GOMERSALL, GREATOREX, GREEN HALL(2), HARTLEY, HEATON, HENDERSON, HEPWORTH HOLMES LAMBERT(2), LEADLEY, LEGG, LENG, LINDILL LINFOOT MARSHALL(2), MAXWELL, MOFFATT, MONKMAN, MYATT NEWBOLD, NEWLOVE, NEWSOME, NORTON OATES(2), OXLEY PATRICK, PRESTON, PULLAN RANDALL/RANDLES, RATCLIFFE, RATHBONE SHAW(2), SPENDELOW, SPILLMAN, STEPHENSON, STRICKLAND TATE, THOMPSON, TOWRAS WALTON, WARD, WEBSTER, WELDRICK/WHELDRAKE, WHITAKER WHITE(2), WIGFIELD, WINSPEAR -- For all communications, please use: YKSsurnames@yahoo.com THE SURNAMES INDEX CAN BE FOUND AT THE YKS SURNAMES LIST HOME PAGE. PLEASE GO TO: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/yks.htm

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Adrienne, I think I have found him for you. I came across a Charles GREENWOOD, Age 22, living at 39 Valley Road, Norton. Norton is today part of Sheffield but was at that time part of North East Derbyshire. He is living with his brother John & wife (can't make out her name) and their son John. John the elder is listed as being born at Keighley, John's wife and son John are born in Sheffield and Charles is listed as being born in Oxenhope which is near to Keighley. I have also found the following Charles GREENWOOD's in Sheffield, Age: 19 (Coal carter) living with parents: Matilda GREENWOOD (widow) at 2 Ct. 1 Woodland Street (Parish of St. John's, Owlerton) Age: 26 (Steel Furnaceman) living with wife Harriet & children at 119 Walkley Street Age: 27 (Bricklayers Labourer) living as a Boarder with Stephen & Ellen BASHAM and family at 26 Ratcliffe Road, Ecclesall Age: 29 (Railway Drayman) living as a Boarder with Thomas & Elizabeth BAIGENT at 1/3 Cross Furness Street, St. Mary's Parish, Park District Age: 23 (Private/Yorkshire Regiment) born at: Stockton, Durham living at Hillsborough Barracks, Parish of St. John's, Owlerton) I looked at the 1881 Census and did find a 2 year old Charles GREENWOOD living at Hawkcliffe, Haworth which could be him 20 years earlier. If the 1901 info sounds promising let me know and I will send it to you off-list. Regards Jeremy Crawshaw Crookes SHEFFIELD ---------------------------------------------------- Outgoing Mail protected by: NORTON Internet Security 2004 Updated: 22nd March 2005 ---------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Dolly2mop@aol.com To: jeremy.crawshaw@talktalk.net Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [SHEFF] Greenwood - Sheffield 1901 Jeremy. He would be approx. 22, not really sure if he was in Sheffield at that age, trying to track him down, I know he had six young 'uns and one address I have for sure was 33 Manton Street, Sheff. Adrienne Wyatt Raleigh NC USA. LAWRENCE/GREENWOOD

In a message dated 22/03/2005 18:54:29 GMT Standard Time, crc45125@ntlworld.com writes: I can only think that I am glad ,that I do not grow my vegetables in those particular gardens. Well they would be well fertilised and very lush. Judy

In a message dated 23/03/2005 00:24:55 GMT Standard Time, rlaxton@rogers.com writes: I wonder if you have considered other reasons why someone may have been born abroad other than the Military that is... I know from experience that travellers representing large Firms could be stationed abroad for some time and he may well have taken his wife with him. Representatives were sent all over the World to look for Trade. Hi This is very true, and my great grandmother was born in Brooklyn, New Yorks whilst my Gt.Gt.grandfather was abroad with his wife. He was a salesman according to the shipping manifest but I have no idea what he sold. It was 1824 so your guess is as good as mine. Best wishes JUDY ELKINGTON _www.elkingtonfamily.com_ (http://www.elklingtonfamily.com/) ELKINGTON-L@rootsweb.com