I would like to know how I can find out about a death of my great grandfather William T Parr. He died at home in Napier St in 1929 and I would like to find out where he is buried. I know that he is not buried in the churchyard as have had contact there. He lived with his daughter Emily S Addington and she was present at his death. Where would the local burials be in which cemetery. Did they have cremations then or were they not fashionable. Someone searched the national burial records but his did not appear so this is a mystery Any kind soul out there that would help me Eunice - Australia

At 16:49 19/04/2005, SheffGens wrote: I have the following details for 1851 Joseph GOULD Attercliffe Rd, Sheffield piece 2342 folio 320B Could someone with access to the 1851 census fiche images please take a looksee and let me have all the details connected to the residence. TIA Regards Gordon Hi Gordon, Image sent off list. Trevor Kersley Easingwold,North Yorks Web Page:- http://www.trevorkersley.co.uk -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.17 - Release Date: 19/04/2005

Hi I have the following details for 1851 Joseph GOULD Attercliffe Rd, Sheffield piece 2342 folio 320B Could someone with access to the 1851 census fiche images please take a looksee and let me have all the details connected to the residence. TIA Regards Gordon List Admin (in Sheffield) Sheffield Genealogy Website : http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~engsheffield -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.17 - Release Date: 19/04/2005

Eunice, The obvious choice for burial of someone dying in Napier Street would be the General Cemetery on Cemetery Road which is right on the doorstep to Napier Street. You say that "he is not buried in the churchyard," do you mean the General Cemetery or some other church? I'm not sure if the S&DFHS have done a burial index for the General Cemetery (maybe someone else on the list can tell you if they have) but if you haven't tried the General Cemetery maybe you might find out if your GG is buried there by contacting the "Friends of the General Cemetery," their postal, e-mail and web addresses are below, Friends of the General Cemetery Angus Hunter The Cemetery Gatehouse Sheffield General Cemetery Cemetery Avenue Sheffield S11 8NT Tel: 0114 268 3486 Email: sgct@gencem.wanadoo.co.uk Web: http://www.gencem.org/ Best Wishes Jeremy Crawshaw Crookes SHEFFIELD ---------------------------------------------------- Outgoing Mail protected by: NORTON Internet Security 2004 Updated: 2nd April 2005 ---------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Goude" <prgdesgn@tpg.com.au> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 3:42 PM Subject: [SHEFF] parish records for ecclesall >I would like to know how I can find out about a death of my great grandfather William T Parr. He died at home in Napier St in 1929 and I would like to find out where he is buried. I know that he is not buried in the churchyard as have had contact there. He lived with his daughter Emily S Addington and she was present at his death. Where would the local burials be in which cemetery. Did they have cremations then or were they not fashionable. > Someone searched the national burial records but his did not appear so this is a mystery > Any kind soul out there that would help me > Eunice - Australia > > > ==== ENG-SHEFFIELD Mailing List ==== > It helps others to know which message your replying to, so always add a little of the text from the message to which you are responding. Some subscribers (myself included) have short memories. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > >

Hi Eunice, Re William Parr. One of the problems that you have is that it is still a fairly recent (1929) burial so will not likely show up on any of the burial indexes that have already been completed. I have checked the burial indexes I have but he doesn't show up on any of them and I have a large number of them. I believe that cremation started at City Road Cemetery about 1905........... but earth burials were certainly more the norm. City Road Cemetery do have an index and they will search it for you but at a charge........ http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/environment/how-we-work/bereavement/cemeteries the URL explains about many of the Cemeteries in the Sheffield area and they maybe worth contacting. Kindest regards. Elaine in Ottawa. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.16 - Release Date: 4/18/2005

Does anyone know there are available indexes for Sheffeild for deaths after 1950 - other than 1837online, or am I better looking at the cemetry records. I am searching for the death of Thomas KIRK (born c1875) beleived to be in 1952 and his wife Annie KIRK (nee Hay - born c1891) believed to be in 1969. Thanks Lisa __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide

Hello Everyone Strange request here .... but hope someone can help. Talking to my Mum as much as possible about her early life and getting all the details down. Don't know how good her memory is though as she's never mentioned this before. Her family used to live near the Wicker Arches but were too frightened to stay because of a murder in the area and moved away. She can't remember the street name or the date but it was before she first started school. They moved to the Manor and she started school either 1927 or 1928 - that's if children started at 4 or 5 then. I've used search engines to look for it but had no joy so far. Has anyone any ideas? Or heard anything about it? Or were murders in those days more of an every day occurrence? Sue in Brisbane DYSON,GRAYSON,MITCHELL,NUTBROWN,WALKER, SAVILLE,RADFORD,CHATHAM, Sheffield DUKE,JAMES,CRITCHLOWE,LITTLEWOOD,Kimberworth

Hello,All, In the 1841 Census for Sheffield I found quite a number of individuals with the "Address" listed as " Haymarket". Would SKS inform me as to what and where that place was. Regards. Gordon Neal. Canada.

hello Sue, I'm wondering whether this could be related to the Sheffield Gang Wars. I haven't read JP Bean's book (called The Sheffield Gang Wars !) but I have just found the following thread from SheffieldForum which gives you an idea of what it was like to live in that part of town in the 1920's http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread/t-659.html According to the thread, a gang member was murdered on Princess St on Cup Final Day 1925. This is not far from the Wicker, and the timing fits the dates you give. Perhaps it was the whole atmosphere of danger on the streets that led to your mother's family leaving. Hugh in Sheffield ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Dyson-Wicks" <dyswicks@optusnet.com.au> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:25 AM Subject: [SHEFF] Wicker Arches murder? > Hello Everyone > > Strange request here .... but hope someone can help. > Talking to my Mum as much as possible about her early life and getting all the details down. Don't know how good her memory is though as she's never mentioned this before. Her family used to live near the Wicker Arches but were too frightened to stay because of a murder in the area and moved away. She can't remember the street name or the date but it was before she first started school. They moved to the Manor and she started school either 1927 or 1928 - that's if children started at 4 or 5 then. > I've used search engines to look for it but had no joy so far. Has anyone any ideas? Or heard anything about it? Or were murders in those days more of an every day occurrence? > Sue in Brisbane > > DYSON,GRAYSON,MITCHELL,NUTBROWN,WALKER, > SAVILLE,RADFORD,CHATHAM, Sheffield > DUKE,JAMES,CRITCHLOWE,LITTLEWOOD,Kimberworth

levans44@yahoo.co.uk wrote snip<Burton RUTHERFORD in Sheffield. > Hi Its a longshot but could this be Burton with his maternal grandparents in 1871 Israel Marshall 1805 Sheffield, Yorkshire, EnglandHead Nether Hallam Yorkshire Mary Ann Marshall 1809 Sheffield, Yorkshire, EnglandWife Nether Hallam Yorkshire berham (Unknown) Rutheford 1854 Sheffield, Yorkshire, EnglandGrandson Nether Hallam Yorkshire Christine 1945 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Evans" <levans44@yahoo.co.uk> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:50 PM Subject: [SHEFF] RUTHERFORD census > Hi everyone, I can't seem to find anything before 1881 > on one Burton RUTHERFORD in Sheffield. He was born > c1854 and married Matilda Severn BUXTON (born c1853) > in Jun 1874. I was hoping to find him on the 1871 > census but I can't seem to find him, I thought with a > name like that he would stand out !! > > If anyone could help I would be greatful. I am trying > to find his parents or Matilda's father (her mother > was called Matilda) > > Thanks > > Lisa > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! > http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide > > > ==== ENG-SHEFFIELD Mailing List ==== > Visit http://www.genuki.org.uk/ for initial information on all > aspects of genealogy in the UK.........For the Sheffield pages visit > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Sheffield/index.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.16 - Release Date: 18/04/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.16 - Release Date: 18/04/2005

and this looks like Matilda... 1861 census index BUXTON Alfred 48 YKS Sheffield 3481 69 BUXTON Matilda 35 Worster 3481 69 BUXTON Matilda 8 YKS Sheffield 3481 69 Hugh in Sheffield ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Evans" <levans44@yahoo.co.uk> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:50 PM Subject: [SHEFF] RUTHERFORD census > Hi everyone, I can't seem to find anything before 1881 > on one Burton RUTHERFORD in Sheffield. He was born > c1854 and married Matilda Severn BUXTON (born c1853) > in Jun 1874. I was hoping to find him on the 1871 > census but I can't seem to find him, I thought with a > name like that he would stand out !! > > If anyone could help I would be greatful. I am trying > to find his parents or Matilda's father (her mother > was called Matilda) > > Thanks > > Lisa

Do you think, this could possibly be him in 1861? RUDDIFORTH Burton 7 YKS Ecclesall Sheffield 3462 31F No other 'RUDDIFORTH's with this reference. Hugh in Sheffield ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Evans" <levans44@yahoo.co.uk> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:50 PM Subject: [SHEFF] RUTHERFORD census > Hi everyone, I can't seem to find anything before 1881 > on one Burton RUTHERFORD in Sheffield. He was born > c1854 and married Matilda Severn BUXTON (born c1853) > in Jun 1874. I was hoping to find him on the 1871 > census but I can't seem to find him, I thought with a > name like that he would stand out !! > > If anyone could help I would be greatful. I am trying > to find his parents or Matilda's father (her mother > was called Matilda) > > Thanks > > Lisa > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! > http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide > > > ==== ENG-SHEFFIELD Mailing List ==== > Visit http://www.genuki.org.uk/ for initial information on all > aspects of genealogy in the UK.........For the Sheffield pages visit > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Sheffield/index.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

Lisa, This isn't really any help to you but I've just had a look on Ancestry for you and can only agree with what you have said in your message below. I also have found him in the 1881, 1891 & 1901 Census but he does not turn up in the 1871 when he should be aged 17. I have also tried searching for a male RUTHERFORD born c1854 in Sheffield just in case he has been transcribed incorrectly due to unreadable writing and still turned up a blank. Could the family have been out of the country in 1871?.................I ask this because I had a 2nd G.Grandfather who does not show up on the 1901 Census because he was in Russia at the time because of his work. Best Wishes Jeremy Crawshaw Crookes SHEFFIELD ---------------------------------------------------- Outgoing Mail protected by: NORTON Internet Security 2004 Updated: 2nd April 2005 ---------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Evans" <levans44@yahoo.co.uk> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:50 PM Subject: [SHEFF] RUTHERFORD census > Hi everyone, I can't seem to find anything before 1881 > on one Burton RUTHERFORD in Sheffield. He was born > c1854 and married Matilda Severn BUXTON (born c1853) > in Jun 1874. I was hoping to find him on the 1871 > census but I can't seem to find him, I thought with a > name like that he would stand out !! > > If anyone could help I would be greatful. I am trying > to find his parents or Matilda's father (her mother > was called Matilda) > > Thanks > > Lisa > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! > http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide > > > ==== ENG-SHEFFIELD Mailing List ==== > Visit http://www.genuki.org.uk/ for initial information on all > aspects of genealogy in the UK.........For the Sheffield pages visit > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Sheffield/index.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

I'm struggling with this family having tried several certificates to no avail! Parents: Thomas REVILL (died 03 Dec 1865) and Elizabeth from Lincolnshire Unfortunately Mary Ann REVILL wasn't registered although she must have been born around 1841. She's the one I really need but to find her mother's maiden name I need a certificate for one of her siblings. William REVILL born abt. 1844 Sheffield - Searched 1842 - 1844 John REVILL born abt. 1846 - 1848 Sheffield Thomas REVILL born abt. 1848 (Not 22 131 Ecc 4Q 1846) died 13 Jan 1849 Sheffield General Cemetery. Ellen REVILL born abt. 1851 Sheffield Elizabeth REVILL born abt. 1853 (Not 9c 26 1854) Sheffield Tom REVILL born abt. 1855 Sheffield Charles REVILL born abt. 1859 (not 9c 265, not 1859) Sheffield Sarah A. REVILL born abt. 1860 Ecclesall Brierley (9c 199 - Not 1859) They could be in Ecclesall Brierley or in Sheffield. In 1849 they lived at Club gardens, Sheffield. So far I haven't been able to find them pre-1871. Any sightings much appreciated, i.e. baptisms, marriage of Thomas and Elizabeth around 1837 - 1841. It's not the wedding of Thomas REVILL to Betsey SYLVESTER. Cheers Liz (nee Y O U L E) www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery Penzance, Cornwall

Hi Does anyone have the records for Ecclesall Bierlow and would kindly look this birth up for me? I would really apprecaite it I know I can buy a cert but it is way down my to buy list Thanks Christine Leedell, Mary Anne1865DecemberQuarterEcclesall Bierlow -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.16 - Release Date: 18/04/2005

Hi Liz, I have had a look at the 1841 census index which is very nearly completed and can not seem to match Thomas and Elizabeth at all.. Have a look for your self.......... http://www.sheff-indexers.thewholeshebang.org/1841census/ I have just found this burial that might have a bearing.. Gen Cem Non Com 1836 -1856.txt/4140: REVILL Thomas "Handsworth Woodhouse, 1760" 80 22/08/1840 25/08/1840 1840 Shoemaker "Thomas Street, Broomhall Street, E.B." Natural Decay Thomas & Elizabeth Revill Gardener 611 G26 You stated that Thomas died 03/1865.......... REVILL Thomas 3 Dec 1865 Brammall Lane 47 Looks as if the family tend to hide at census time unless they have been miss transcribed....... Could this be the baptism of Thomas... THOMAS REVILL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 29 NOV 1818 Cathedral Saint Peter, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England I will continue looking for a marriage...... Found one in 1847 that looked interesting but I think Elizabeth had been married before???? Will get back to you if I find anything interesting. Regards. Elaine in Ottawa. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005

Thank you to Carol, Christine, Margaret and Hugh who all responded so quickly to my problem' family of Greensmiths! I have established dates of marriages and deaths and found several new members of the family. Because I only have access to the 1841 census and then the 1871/81 some children are born, married and leave home in the intervening years without being noticed! I now think Mary A Greensmith was the daughter of the son Charles. But I don't know what happened to her as I can't find a marriage. Many thanks to you all. I shall know where to come with my next problem! Jill The Lake District Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

I have just received the following information on a marriage certificate. Could SKS with access to the 1851 census tell me where this couple were living and, if with their families, the age and birth place of George FIELDSEND and his wife. Thanks for your interest. December 4th 1854 St George's Sheffield Joseph FIELDSEND, 23, bach, Clerk , New Edward St, Bridgehouses. Father, George FIELDSEND, railway porter Harriot SORSBY, 22, Spinster, Eyre St, Father, John SORSBY, Engineer Witnesses William WILSON and Cooper CORBIDGE ======================================= Lorna in Derbyshire

Hi Christine, Re.....................Leedell, Mary Anne 1865 December Quarter Ecclesall Bierlow I am not quite sure what you are after as the birth entries only shows up on the GRO index (which you have quoted) and the registrars books which you do not get to see unless you purchase the certificate with the entry on it..... Ecclesall Bierlow covers quite a large area of Sheffield so I can not even suggest a Church where a baptism might have taken place..... I am afraid you will have to purchase that certificate to move on. Leedell does NOT seem to be a Sheffield name seems to be more Rotherham and only a very small group of them there. Hope this helps.. Regards. Elaine in Ottawa. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005

Images sent off list ----- Original Message ----- From: carol slater To: Karen Walker Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 5:32 AM Subject: Re: [SHEFF] Cardwell hi karen i have looked around masboro on the 1851 and cannot find any cardwell or any name simular. if you come across them that they could have been somewhere else in the west rididng of yorkshire let me know and i will have a look as i dont have a name index just a street. i wonder if you can help me i have a family from kimberley nottingham samuel burrows abt 1826 born kimberley notts hannah burrows abt 1828 born storley notts mary ann burrows abt 1849 born kimberley notts martha burrows abt 1853 kimberley notts samuel burrows abt 1859 attercliffe yorkshire alice burrows abt 1861 kimberley notts ellen burrows abt 1866 kimberley notts frances burrows 1869 attercliffe yorkshire i have got them from attercliffe on the 1871 census and all other cenus after. i have just not found them before 1871.someone did find them on the 1861 census but not sure if it was attercliffe or notts as i somehow lost the email and i had only got mary ann and parents as mary ann was the one i was looking for.not found them on the 1851 in atttercliffe so it could be after then that they came to attercliffe. any help would be great thanks regards carol Karen Walker <thewalkers@kwic.com> wrote: Dear List I have just joined your list. I was hoping someone could help me find any CARDWELL's in Masboro, on the '41, '51 or '61 census. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have lots of resources for Notts. if anyone needs help there. Thanks Karen Walker Port Dover, Canada ==== ENG-SHEFFIELD Mailing List ==== E-mail etiquette - CAPITALISE only research surnames, other CAPITALisation usually means you are SHOUTING!!! and may be interpreted as being offensive. ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com