Greetings All, I wonder if someone could tell me if the above records have been transcribed into a saleable format; and if so, where can one purchase them from? Many Thanks, Bob.

Hi everyone I am quite new to this so please be patient with me. I am researching my father's side of the family the history so far as I know it is he and his brother was born in Ecclesall Bierlow it seems that is where his parents come from too. My father and his brother were both brought up in a Children's home in sheffield. His parents ANNIE KIRK and WILLIAM BOOTH were apparently both killed in an accident during the 1914-1918 war. As my father ERNEST BOOTH was born in 1916 it must have been after this time. Does anyone out there know how I can find out where and what year this happened. Janet Perth Western Australia

Hello Frank, Sorry, I can't help you with your query about Bland Row but I was wondering if your family (LOY) had any connections to Stannington as I have just found out that I am related to a LOY family from Stannington, see below, John MARSHALL (b: c1813 - Bradfield) 4th G.Grandfather married: 30th December 1833 - St. Nicholas Church, High Bradfield Ruth LOY (b: c1813 - Stannington, Bradfield) 4th G.Grandmother This is as much as I know about my LOY family to date, do you have this lady in your family tree? Hope to hear from you. Best Wishes Jeremy Crawshaw Crookes SHEFFIELD RESEARCHING Paternal Line CRAWSHAW (Dungworth / Storrs / Hilltop / Stannington / Bradfield / Hillsborough, Sheffield) HORSFIELD (Bradfield / Wadsley / Loxley, Sheffield) BARBER (Stannington, Bradfield) DRABBLE (Stannington, Bradfield) BRAMALL (Storrs / Hilltop / Stannington, Bradfield) MORTON (Stannington / Bradfield, Sheffield) SHARP(E) (Dronfield, Dbys / Roscoe Wheel, Rivelin / Stannington, Bradfield) BRADWELL (Bradwell & Hope, Derbyshire / Stannington, Bradfield & Hillsborough, Sheffield) GOODISON (Stannington, Bradfield) OATES (Stannington, Bradfield) JENKINSON (Stannington & Wadsley, Sheffield) MARSHALL (Stannington, Hunshelf, Deepcar) LOY (Stannington, Bradfield) WOOD (Hillsborough / Heeley, Sheffield) THOMAS (Boston, Lincolnshire & Hillsborough, Sheffield) CHAMBERS (Butterwick, Lincolnshire) Maternal Line HARTLEY (Morley/Holbeck, Leeds & Sheffield ) HOLLOWAY (Sheffield) FELL (Sheffield) FELL-HOLLOWAY (Sheffield) SHAW (Addy St, Upperthorpe, Sheffield & Ulley, Aston Parish) DRAKE (St. Philip's Rd, Sheffield) BEHR & BOTCHER (Liban, Russia) ---------------------------------------------------- Outgoing Mail protected by: NORTON Internet Security 2004 Updated: 2nd April 2005 ---------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: <Efhell@aol.com> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 1:34 PM Subject: [SHEFF] BLAND ROW > Dear All, > Could anyone tell me where Bland Row (Bradfield or Loxley) was or is > situated. > > Thanks in anticipation > Frank Loy > Hillsborough

hello Frank, A context and a date could help. I found two references in the Flood Claims, but they don't really help with finding it on the ground. 'Rows' often refer to particular blocks of houses which may not appear on maps. http://www2.shu.ac.uk/sfca/claimDetails.cfm?claim=7-6036 http://www2.shu.ac.uk/sfca/claimSummary.cfm?claim=8-6251 Hugh in Sheffield ----- Original Message ----- From: <Efhell@aol.com> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 1:34 PM Subject: [SHEFF] BLAND ROW > Dear All, > Could anyone tell me where Bland Row (Bradfield or Loxley) was or is > situated. > > Thanks in anticipation > Frank Loy > Hillsborough

Further to my previous message about Bramall Lane: One Thomas Brammall purchased or built the White House, a prominent leasehold property of about 1 Œ acres in White House Lane. The White House included the Brammall file factory, reputed to be the largest in the district, the family home and six dwelling houses, a garden and an orchard. The White House is mentioned in Gatty’s History of Sheffield. I don’t know the exact date, but I think Thomas acquired the White House in the 1760s. The Whitehouse file factory in modern times became Arnold Laver’s. The residence was demolished in 1974. The gate lodge housed men from various regiments during the 1914/18 was and later became a bus depot. Whitehouse Lane became Bramall Lane sometime between 1812 and 1816. The family spelt their name Brammall, but the lane is now spelt Bramall. Thomas Brammall’s son Daniel purchased 4 acres of land adjoining the White House in 1803. In 1816 he built Sheaf House on this land, which was approached by a circular drive from the lane, past a two-storey gate lodge. This later became the Sheaf House pub. The garden became for a time ‘Olympia’, a skating rink – it was this which was to become the Bramall Lane cricket and football ground. Claire

Many thanks to the people who have helped me with the problem of the correct spelling of Bramall Lane. I am still surprised that there are three times as many wrong spellings as right ones. The history of the area that Claire Pearson supplied is interesting to me. White House, Sheaf Lodge, and Sheaf House are all listed on the 1841 census (Piece Number 1337/9. Folio 28a and adjacent folios.) My 3g-grandfather William Naylor lived nearby at the Sheaf Rolling Mill. I would have expected this to be down Clough Road on the river but the address is given as 'Brammall Lane' on certificates. -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------

Dear All, Could anyone tell me where Bland Row (Bradfield or Loxley) was or is situated. Thanks in anticipation Frank Loy Hillsborough

some parents have very strange ideas........ GRO index (from FreeBMD) Births Dec Qtr 1881 SWALLOW Archduke Barnsley 9c 180 Hugh in Sheffield

hello Marian, Gilcar is the name of the district - a name only used in relation to the parish church, which was dedicated to St Silas. This is in Broomhall. The building still exists but ceased to be a church a few years ago. This was a C of E church and the registers are held by Sheffield Archives. Hugh in Sheffield ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marian Mahon" <marianmahon@verizon.net> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 11:11 PM Subject: FW: [SHEFF] Ecclessiastical Parish Gilcar? > Dear List members, > > I am sorry that I hit the Send button on the following email before I signed > my name to it; so here it goes again. Will try to do better. > > Marian Mahon > Richmond, Virginia USA > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marian Mahon [mailto:marianmahon@verizon.net] > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 5:59 PM > To: ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SHEFF] Ecclesiastical Parish Gilcar? > > Hi list members: I have a question concerning the ecclesiastical parish in > the 1861 census for the John and Matilda BROOMHEAD family in Ecclesall > Bierlow township of Sheffield. I notice it says Gilcar or Gillcar for the > parish. Is this the name of their church or is it a neighborhood, or were > they, perhaps, not members of the Church of England? I have never noticed > this in any of the census or other information I have learned about the > family before. I am curious can this lead me to learn more about their > marriage, or the christenings of their children, one of whom was my great > grandmother Anne BROOMHEAD? Any help will be most appreciated.

Hi Hugh, Have just checked the image and it is correct. The son Frank is listed as aged 22, I can only presume that it was an error by the enumerator. If you want the image mail me off-list and I will send it to you. Best Wishes Jeremy Crawshaw Crookes SHEFFIELD ---------------------------------------------------- Outgoing Mail protected by: NORTON Internet Security 2004 Updated: 2nd April 2005 ---------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Waterhouse" <dalum@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 9:55 PM Subject: [SHEFF] 1891 image? > could someone who has the images of this census check the following > information from the SDFHS transcription, which clearly can't be right ! > > 1891 census (SDFHS) > piece 3798 e.d.27 folio 4 > 284 South Rd > (Nether Hallam) > Wright Joseph R head M 24 table blade forger Sheffield > Wright Mary Ann wife M 24 > Sheffield > Wright Frank son 22 butcher's assistant > Sheffield > Wright Benjamin son 2 > Sheffield > > TIA > > Hugh in Sheffield > > > > ==== ENG-SHEFFIELD Mailing List ==== > All internet users should have a virus detection program installed. If you > dont have one then please install one immediately. > ***** You Know It Makes Sense ***** > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

could someone who has the images of this census check the following information from the SDFHS transcription, which clearly can't be right ! 1891 census (SDFHS) piece 3798 e.d.27 folio 4 284 South Rd (Nether Hallam) Wright Joseph R head M 24 table blade forger Sheffield Wright Mary Ann wife M 24 Sheffield Wright Frank son 22 butcher's assistant Sheffield Wright Benjamin son 2 Sheffield TIA Hugh in Sheffield

Hi, The Sheffield & District Family History Society have two new sections of 1891 Census Transcription available for purchase on floppy disk. Ecclesfield (Pro Ref RG12/3787-3790) and Handsworth & Beighton (Pro Ref RG/3842-3844) Details on the Society web site http://www.sheffieldfhs.org.uk/Pub_con/comp-disk.htm Best wishes Diane

Dear List members, I am sorry that I hit the Send button on the following email before I signed my name to it; so here it goes again. Will try to do better. Marian Mahon Richmond, Virginia USA -----Original Message----- From: Marian Mahon [mailto:marianmahon@verizon.net] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 5:59 PM To: ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SHEFF] Ecclessiastical Parish Gilcar? Hi list members: I have a question concerning the ecclesiastical parish in the 1861 census for the John and Matilda BROOMHEAD family in Ecclesall Bierlow township of Sheffield. I notice it says Gilcar or Gillcar for the parish. Is this the name of their church or is it a neighborhood, or were they, perhaps, not members of the Church of England? I have never noticed this in any of the census or other information I have learned about the family before. I am curious can this lead me to learn more about their marriage, or the christenings of their children, one of whom was my great grandmother Anne BROOMHEAD? Any help will be most appreciated. ==== ENG-SHEFFIELD Mailing List ==== Always include your name and area of residence on ALL list messages. It helps others to point you to your nearest source of information. It also makes for a more friendly message. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hi list members: I have a question concerning the ecclesiastical parish in the 1861 census for the John and Matilda BROOMHEAD family in Ecclesall Bierlow township of Sheffield. I notice it says Gilcar or Gillcar for the parish. Is this the name of their church or is it a neighborhood, or were they, perhaps, not members of the Church of England? I have never noticed this in any of the census or other information I have learned about the family before. I am curious can this lead me to learn more about their marriage, or the christenings of their children, one of whom was my great grandmother Anne BROOMHEAD? Any help will be most appreciated.

Hi everyone It's a long time since I aired this lady and now I've seen her on yet another census with yet another place of birth, I thought I'd see if anyone can find her. On the 1861 census she's decided she was born in Brightside, Sheffield! Mary Ann appears to have started off life as Mary Ann TAYLOR born around 1823/24. She's been born in Attercliffe, Mexborough and now Brightside! I've had the Attercliffe and Mexborough records checked and she's definitely not there. At some stage she appears to have married a Mr. THOMPSON...she says! By 1846 she's living with Isaac NEEDHAM over in Cutthorpe where she produces 5 children all grew up and carried his name although at least Herbert was registered as Herbert Needham THOMPSON! Then, in 1858 they hop over to Sheffield and marry in the Cathedral and Mary states she's a widow!! On Rootsweb FreeBMD site there's a Mary Ann TAYLOR and a William THOMPSON who married Third Quarter 1844...but, did they marry each other?? There are too many William THOMPSONs who died in Sheffield to even begin to decide which, if any, might be Mary Ann's husband. Cheers Liz (nee Y O U L E) www.btinternet.com/~e.newbery Penzance, Cornwall

Thanks to everyone who replied to my query about the Workhouse on Salt Box lane. Carol Sheffield

I had been having a very frustrating session on the ancestry censuses last night at the LDS, when someone mentioned that the 1861 was available. I immediately put in one of my names, Thomas Fewsdale. I expected several hits but only got one, my man living alone at 25 Stanley Street. I tried two more, my g-grandfather, Fred C Naylor - found him. aged 10 mo., pins down his birthdate as I've never found a GRO reference, and then John Craven and found him. So three for three :-) However, in general, I find the ancestry censuses very irritating. I don't think it is simply a case of poor transcription. In some cases I can find people (among many others) using the ranked search but entering the same data into the exact search returns no hits - so the transcription must be correct but the exact search process must have problems - or else I'm not giving it the right information. I hoped with more experience I would become more successful but last night's experience suggests the opposite - the 1861 successes notwithstanding! -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------

Morning Carol, I am more or less sure that the Workhouse hospital you are talking about belongs to Wortley Union Workhouse which had nothing to do with the SYA..... ...You will find it on the Alan Godfrey map of Grenoside. It's situated at the junction of Saltbox Lane, Skew Hill and Long Lane. Regards. Elaine in Ottawa. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.4 - Release Date: 4/27/2005

Good morning, Just wanted to mention that on Ancestry, they have added the 1861 Census for England but I don't know if it's complete or not. I think they will be having a lot of traffic on their site.....lol Have a great day Danielle Montreal (Qc) Manager of the Sheffield Genealogy Chat Group @ MSN *************************** Online Sheffield message forum & 1841 census index: http://www.sheff-indexers.thewholeshebang.org/1841census/

Bramall lane was named after the Bramall famlily who made files. It was originally named Whitehouse Lane. Unfortunately all my notes on this are elsewhere at the moment, but I can look them up and post another message later. The family name was spelt Bramhall originally. I'm told that (although the name was sometimes spelt Bramall and Brammall), there was a family fall-out, and some of them dropped the 'h' to disassociate from the other Bramhalls! No idea if this is true though! Claire