Hi Elaine - thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I have the marriage certificate for Samuel Bray and Sarah A Moxon. It lists them as being "full age" and Sarah's father as Jacob Moxon, a coal miner. In the census it appears that her date of birth would be about 1866 and Samuel Bray's about 1870. Also from census records I think Jacob would have been born about 1836 and his wife Mary Ann in about 1840. As I said in my email I have been able to find Jacob and co in some census though not all but have no idea who MaryAnn - his wife- was. There are many Sarah Moxon births in Free BMD but only one in 1866 in Huddersfield and there are no marriages for Jacob Moxon in the right time frame. So I am a bit stuck. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Dianne Quoting Elaine Pickard <trayford@rogers.com>: > Hi Diana, > > >>1891 Kimberworth: Sarah A.Moxon married Samuel Bray > Sarah gave her fathers name as Jacob.<< > > I presume you have the marriage certificate?????? > > Sarah age would be helpful as well as Samuel's. Jacobs occupation would be a > lead....... > > I have quickly looked at free BMD's and note there are many Jacob Moxons on > it........for Rotherham... > > It seems to me that the marriage certificate is a must have to corroborate > the census information...... > > Regards. > > Elaine in Ottawa.

Hi list - I have hit the proverbial brickwall with part of my husbands famiy and am hoping that someone can help. Here is what I do know: 1891 Kimberworth: Sarah A.Moxon married Samuel Bray Sarah gave her fathers name as Jacob. 1891 census there is a Sarah A and Samuel Bray living in Ecclesfield. She gives her age as 25 making her born about 1866. In the 1861 census there is a Jacob (b. 1836 Kimberworth) and Mary Ann (b. 1840 Ecclesfield) Moxon. He is a coal miner living at South Hall Reform Chapel, Kimberworth. Also in family is: Caroline born 1860 Kimberworth Mary Jane born 1860 Kimberworth In 1871 there is a Jacob Moxon working as a coal miner living in Intake Sheffield as a lodger. Listed as married and born 1834. Ther eis no sign of the remaining family. In 1881 in Intake there is a Jacob Moxon, a coal miner born about 1836 with his wife Mary Ann. Also in the family is: Emily Moxon born 1868 Edwin Moxon born 1875 In 1881 in Ecclesall Bierlow there is a Sarah A Moxon worknig as a servant. She was born 1865 in Thorpe Helsey. I have been unable to find a marriage certificate (in Free BMD) for Jacob and Mary Ann and also unable to find a birth certificate for Sarah A. I am not sure if the girl I found in 1881 is the right Sarah but I have a feeling she is. Can anyone help me track this family down. Thanks in advance Dianne in Edmonton, Alberta

Hi Listers, Here is the list of email defaulters whose submissions have been deleted this past week: Jill Smith (1) jillmarg@tpgi.com.au Gordon Abbott (6) abbottg@acr.net.au Georgia Clements (4) gclements@telstra.easymail.com.au Frances/Robert (3) val.hobson@aol.com ______________________ And here is the list of surnames submitted this past week: ATKINSON BANHAM, BEACH, BELLAMY CHARLESWORTH, COLDWELL, COOPER DALBY, DOWSON GRAVES, GRAY HALLIDAY, HAMER, HAWKSWORTH, HEAPS, HESK HODGES, HOLT, HOWLEY IBSON, INGHAM KIRKBRIDE LANGSTRETH, LAWSON, LLOYD MARSHALL, MARTINDALE, MELLOR, MOOTON OGLES, OYLES ROBINSON, ROYLE SCAUM, SENIOR THOMPSON UTLEY WARDLE, WOOD, WOODIWISS Happy hunting! Magdalena -- For all communications, please use: YKSsurnames@yahoo.com THE SURNAMES INDEX CAN BE FOUND AT THE YKS SURNAMES LIST HOME PAGE. PLEASE GO TO: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/yks.htm

Hi - can anyone please let me know when the first newspapers were published in Sheffield. I am particularly interested in how the papers dealt with the Colliery Explosion at Warren Vale Pit, Rawmarsh in Dec 1851. Hilary Jackson http://www.hilarymaryjackson.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/abraham_thompson.htm Researching BRAITHWAITE (Cundall-Hartwith-Bradfield-Hunshelf-West Melton); CUPIT (Alfreton & Kirkby in Ashfield, to Darnall & West Melton); GASH (Kirton, Lincs to Hemmingfield and Rawmarsh to Newark & Canada); HICKLING (Hugglescote to Rawmarsh); GAMBLES (Rawmarsh, Yorks); MCPHADEN (Sheffield to West Melton); VAUGHAN (Sheffield to Thorpe Hesley to Wath); WATSON (Thorpe Hesley); BARROWCLIFFE (Ilkeston-Doncaster); BLOOR (Hanley & Burslem); SARAH CHARLESWORTH (Bradfield); COPLEY (Ambleside); DAVIES (Shipley, Derbyshire); DAWSON (Kirton, Lincs); DIXON (Sibsey, Lincs to Wombwell, Yorks); DUTTON (Ickleston & Doncaster); GRAVES (Kirton); HALLAM (Ilkeston); HORNSEY (Moortown, Lincs to Ickleston, to Doncaster) JACKSON (Burslem to Cudworth to Doncaster); LEES (Burslem); MICKLETHWAITE (Cumberworth to Whitwell to Onesacre, and Hunshelf - Yorkshire); MOON (Mapperley to Langley to Ilkeston); NETTLETON (Hoyland in Barnsley); PRICE (Tunstall & Burslem), SHAW (Alfreton), SIMMS (Thornton le Fen, Sutterton, Hemmingfield, Sheffield to Southport); SIMMS (Thorton le Fen, West Melton, to Canada); SKEVINGTON (Kirkby in Ashfield); TOMLINSON (Kirton, Lincs); AND WILKINSON (Moortown, Lincs) .... phew... Proud to be working on the FREECEN Project http://freecen.rootsweb.com

This week in 1911 Midnight Arrest The midnight watchfulness of two Sheffield detectives led to the appearance of two youths in the dock at Sheffield Police Court on a charge of shopbreaking. Prisoners were Thomas GETTINS and George William JENKINSON who live in the Park district. The shop concerned was that of William GARDINER, boot & shoe dealer of 24 Duke Street, Park. Policemans Chase A lively chase in the Neepsend district in the small hours resulted in PC HOBBS (?) making a smart capture of George GREENWOOD alias Jack FISHER of 23ct Woodside Lane, who stands remanded on a charge of burglariously entering the Stag Inn, Wilson Street. As the officer turned into Rowland Street from Apple Street he observered GREENWOOD and another man loitering. After a hot pursuit in and out of passages and over garden walls the men split up. GREENWOOD practically dropped into the arms of the officer who had cut of his retreat. When searched by the officer it was proved the prisoner had in his possession two bunches of skeleton keys, a jemmy-like instrument a spanner and some cigarettes. Timely Intervention A girl named Edith CHAMPION of 26 Belmore Road, Attercliffe Common is in the custody of the Sheffield police on a charge of attempted suicide. It is alleged that she was about to throw herself into the canal near Broughton Lane Station. Extracts from the Sheffield Daily Independent http://www.cpiper.freeserve.co.uk/ --------------------------------------- Regards Gordon (in Sheffield) List Admin: Eng-Sheffield mailing list Sheffield Genealogy Family & Social History http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~engsheffield -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.6 - Release Date: 06/05/2005

Dear folks: My grandfather, Victor HUKIN, born in Oct 1997, apparently won a drawing contest held in by a Sheffield newspaper when he was about 12 years old, i.e. circa 1909/1910. May I please ask some questions? 1. Would this contest have likely be held by the Sheffield Telegraph? 2. It's a long shot, but would anyone know if this is/was an annual contest that is/was held at the same time each year? 3. Would anyone know where I could purchase a roll(s) of microfilm that might cover 1909 and 1910 (if this is even possible) and what the cost might be if I did? Thank you in advance, Kathleen in Alberta

Have you tried the National Railway Museum in York? Claire

Hi List, Could SKS tell me where my Samuel Wolstenholme could be buried if he died whilst living at Cross Burgess St in the 1850s Hoping someone can help Kay in Melbourne Australia

Hi All, New name on my family tree. Thomas Brogden in 1861, married , 61 Farmer at Collingham Yorks with wife Elizabeth (nee Clarke) and son John H.C. Brodgen Anyone out there with similar research please reply. still looking for those elusive HUME's anywhere in the UK, especially Yorkshire and the North regards John Morriss HUME Always looking for:-HUME plus ARCHER-Cradley Herts, 1840---BEAL(E) - Sheffield 1880 BROOKES-Rotherham 1860---BUCKLAND-Nottingham 1880 BURTON- Sheffield 1910---CARLTON-Sutton on Forest Yorks. 1730 CLARKE-Myton Hall, Yorks 1825---CROWSHAW- Sheffield 1910 HARGREAVES-West Yorks 1840---HARRISON-Nottingham 1760 HELMAN-London 1850---HOLIDAY-Kilvington York 1780 HUME- Lowestoft 1901--- LINCOLN-London 1850--- MEDD-SEAMER YORK 1901---McBRIDE- Rotherham 1850 SKELTON -York 1800---THEAKER- Sheffield 1910 STANLEY-West Hartlepool-1863

Dear Listers I have been off list for some time, due to computer problems, and have re-subscribed today. Not that I have solved the problem, but my wife has gone to York for the day so I am using her P.C. I went to The Sheffield Local History Fair 2005 today and it was good to met Gordon Cambell our List Administrator once again. Since I was last on the list I have become a volunteer with the BBC - WWII - People's War Project and Gordon has kindly given me permission to post the following message: Please note before you read any further that people on the list who are not in the Radio Sheffield area can E-mail their WWII stories directly to me, and I will see that they are added to the web site, but please put WWII somewhere in the subject line. Where was your family during that time, and what were they doing? This year is the 60th Anniversary of the end of World War 2 so who will answer these questions in the future? 'The People's War Project' is looking for the personal stories of life during World War 2, on active service or on the home front. By telling your family's World War 2 story now, to one of our volunteer story-gatherers, you can help save them for future generations. There is an urgent need to get stories onto 'The People's War' website which is the archive depository of stories, experiences, memories and recollections from ordinary people that will capture and preserve for future generations the stories of those who lived through the war. We need not only the experiences on the battlefields but also on the home front, the stories of factory workers, Bevin boys, ARP Wardens, shopkeepers, homemakers, land army girls, children and evacuees these the memories of ordinary people throughout the conflict of ! 1939-1945. So if you have a story, photographs, medals, artefacts, documentation, records or memorabilia tell us about them, come and meet us on the 'BBC Bus' that will be visiting your Radio Sheffield area in the near future. The dates and locations of the 'BBC Bus' visit sites will appear in the local press and given out on Radio Sheffield so keep a lookout for us because we are looking forward to meeting you. Your stories will then be edited and put on to the People's war website. Your stories will then be edited and put on to the People's war website. The People's War Volunteer Project is facilitated by the CSV Action Desk BBC Radio Sheffield has had great success in recruiting a team of volunteer story-gathers who want to meet up with and hear from WW2 veterans and their families, friends or associates to make sure that their stories or those of their relatives are saved on a National BBC Archive of War Stories which will be preserved for generations to come. If you cannot meet us on the 'BBC Bus' but would like to contribute to the project or you'd like more information please contact: The People's War Volunteer Project at BBC Radio Sheffield 54, Shoreham Street in Sheffield S1 4RS, telephone The People's Warline on 0845 300 4475 (Local Rate Call) or log on to The People's War website ( www.bbc.co.uk/ww2). There are two easy ways in which you can get your story to us either write it yourself on a simple story sheet which we can send you with a Stamped addressed envelope for returning it to us, or you can type it directly onto the BBC internet site given above. We can arrange for a volunteer story gatherer to interview people at home, in the BBC Radio Sheffield Open Centre or in the associate library. BBC Bus dates for your diary: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - Kwik Save, Killamarsh Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - Beighton Community Centre, The Limes Thank you for reading this message and for any story that you may send. Best Regards Roger Marsh Sheffield, England Researching: MARSH - Sheffield, Yorkshire HANSON - Nether Hallam, Sheffield, Yorkshire BRADSHAW - Sheffield, Yorkshire GRATTON- Marton, Staffordshire - Stone, Staffordshire - Ashton-under-Line, Lancashire - Woodhouse, Sheffield, Yorkshire - Dronfield, Derbyshire - Barnsley, Yorkshire - Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire WRIGHT - Sheffield, Yorkshire HOLLIS - Nether Hallam, Sheffield, Yorkshire WHITWORTH - Dronfield, Derbyshire - Whittington, Derbyshire - Heath, Derbyshire - North Wingfield HANCOCK WHITINGTON SHELDON - Hanley, Staffordshire WATMOUGH - Tuxford, Nottinghamshire - Darlton Field, Nottinghamshire WILSON - Dronfield, Derbyshire BROWN - Darlton, Nottinghamshire MOSLEY - Whittington, Derbyshire BROOKS - Rotherham, Yorkshire WILKES - Rotherham, Yorkshire HIRST - Rotherham, Yorkshire SCHOLES - Rotherham, Yorkshire

----- Original Message ----- From: Kay To: Sheffield Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 3:39 PM Subject: Fw: A few More short wartime food tales ----- Original Message ----- From: Kay To: ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: A few More short wartime food tales Hi List, Decided to put my "tuppence" in Cats disappear-ed-----black marketeers came door to door with "skinned rabbits" for sale------we never ate rabbit ! Mum got some tinned spam -we ate it for tea and we all got food poisoning--stomach pumps for all and dad who had eaten the most nearly died----someone who had packed it had LEPROSY--still never eat spam. Children had free cod liver oil - a whole tablespoonful was ladled into us daily It was awful. Porridge every morning--no milk or sugar--- No sweets-----I used to go to the corner shop for "threepenceworth of YEAST" and eat it from a paper cone and I loved it Kay now in Melbourne OZ

I would be very happy to send an email with Railway Station and the 8 men photo attached to anyone interested. I'm sure it has to be of a railway station in Yorkshire. Just send me your email address. I'm on phone modem, so it takes awhile to send online. Lynne Bennett Washington State, USA

My apologies. I meant to type "1891 census" instead of "1901 Census" in my previous email. Thank you. Lynne Bennett Washington State, USA

I just received a photo of a group of 8 men posed on a train with what looks like a maintenance building for trains in the background. For years, this photo was thought to be of our Great Great Grandfather in Western Australia. Recent inquiries at a museum near Perth, Western Australia indicates that it more likely could be a railway station in England. The train, according to a researcher in Victoria, Australia, 'appears to have vacuum brakes', so the conclusion was that the train could be English, not Australian. The photo is of the front of the locomotive, with 4 men on the ground and 4 men on the engine front. According to the death certificate of our gg Grandfather, he spent time in New South Wales, South Australia and Western Australia after the family arrived in Adelaide in 1883 on the "Ashmore". The man who was thought to be George TAYLOR is holding a oil can. It is believed the men's clothing may be from the 1890s. George TAYLOR's father was a signalman, living in Attercliffe, Sheffield District in Yorkshire when he died on August 25, 1896. His address on that date was 61 Weedon Street. I have located him in the 1901 census, but the street name is not readable. Can SKS direct me to a website which could help solve this photo mystery? A Sheffield railway museum? railway history organization? Thank you for your help. Lynne Bennett Washington State, USA

Dear Listers and Yorkshire Family Historians, As you all know, I am always happy to enter new surnames to the YKS Surnames database. All you have to do is use the form that is provided on the YKS Home Page or, if your server does not like forms, send me an email with the relevant information that I enter manually. HOWEVER... In spite of repeated requests for submitters to READ THE INSTRUCTIONS, I am receiving an increasing number of submissions in all formats possible, most of which mean that I have to search all over an incoming email to find the submitter's contact name and/or email address. This only adds to the probability of my making a mistake and entering the wrong information. So, for those of you who appear to be constitutionally unable to read and follow instructions, please copy the following example of how to submit a manual surname and save in some safe place: DOE 1880-present Rotherham, Sheffield, Leeds Jane Doe doe@email.planetearth www.janedoe.planet earth Please note that only the SURNAME is typed in all caps. NO first names. If you don't have any dates, just leave a blank line If you don't have any places, just leave a blank line. A blank assumes that all of Yorkshire is contemplated. Places can be in Yorkshire ONLY and are separated by a comma. Your contact name can be anything you like - just a first name, a full name, a nickname, whatever. If you do not give a contact name, your submission will be rejected outright. Your email address If you have a website, here is where you enter the information. If you do not have one, just leave blank. Please repeat the above for EACH surname you are submitting. You can submit as many surnames in the same email as you wish - just as long as you follow the rules for each surname. At all times, do remember that it is up to each person to keep his/her email address updated. There is no form for that, just send me an email and I'll make the changes. I'm also happy to make changes to your submissions, such as changing dates, adding places, etc., whenever you wish. Just send me an email. Stick to the rules and we'll all be happy and, hopefully, very successfull in our research! Regards to everyone, Magdalena -- For all communications, please use: YKSsurnames@yahoo.com THE SURNAMES INDEX CAN BE FOUND AT THE YKS SURNAMES LIST HOME PAGE. PLEASE GO TO: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/yks.htm

2 - 3.30 At the cemetery gates, Nichols Rd off Waller Rd. Fascinating history in a beautiful setting. (some steep slopes) Part of "Environment Weeks in Sheffield" Hugh in Walkley

Today, 10 till 4, Town Hall Banqueting Suite ~ 40 local history organisations and societies (including the FHS) ~ BBC People's war light refreshments free entry say hello at the Walkley Cemetery stall ! Hugh in Sheffield

Congratulations to Elaine and all of the Sheffield Indexers for an absolutely fantastic effort, it really is such a valuable resource for everyone with family links to Sheffield. You should all be dead chuffed with yourselves, thanks to all concerned. Best Wishes Jeremy Crawshaw Crookes SHEFFIELD ---------------------------------------------------- Outgoing Mail protected by: NORTON Internet Security 2004 Updated: 2nd May 2005 ---------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elaine Pickard" <trayford@rogers.com> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 2:11 PM Subject: [SHEFF] 1841 census. > Final Update....... > > > The 1841 Census Index has been completed......... > > There are about eight pieces to be checked and then they will be placed on > the net. > > To ALL the **indexers** thank you for your time and patience. > >>From the mail I have received it has been deemed a very worth while >>project > We have helped many researchers from all over the world to have access to > material they would not otherwise have. > > So until next time..... > > Kindest regards. > > Elaine in Ottawa > Sheffield Indexers 1841 Census Coordinator > http://www.sheff-indexers.thewholeshebang.org/

Carol Cooper writes "It doesn't mention baptisms" when referring to Quaker records. There won't be any as the Quakers didn't baptize. Chris Reaney S.Wales

Thought someone might be interested in this posted on the DBY list: Hilary (I have absolutely no interested either - but someone on the list might be keen to obtain the book) ----- Original Message ----- Hi Everyone Just noticed a book on E Bay which might interest a lot of you................ #8304302076 Bolsterstone Schools, lots of old pictures etc............... ABSOLUTELY No interest in this article other than to make sure that someone gets the benefit of seeing it. Hope no one minds me posting this??