In a message dated 22/07/2007 23:00:23 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I have been getting a very small amount of mail from the list I think there were just four last week is it that there is no one writing or is it this new Vista I have got that is causing problems. Don't worry. Everybody is either away or dealing with horrendous floods in Sheffield. It has been a big disaster area here and our steel works have been destroyed as the cold water flowed over the red hot furnaces exploding them and putting many men out of work. Many shops have lost their entire stock and over a 1000 people had to spend the night in the Town Hall and some will never be able to return to their homes and have lost everything. In Catcliffe area of sheffield, the water was up to the roofs and the damage will run into billions just in Sheffield. Of course now many other parts of the country are under water and I think Noah and his Ark would have been a great help as the whole country is devasted by horrendous floods. I think family history will not be on anyone's mind for a while and they have probably lost their computers in the water. Regards JUDY ELKINGTON [W.R.Yorkshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com [email protected] www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Hello everyone, It may be cold comfort for many, but the weather is just as miserable in Northern Portugal as in the UK. In fact, it is raining cats and dogs and has been all day. My commiserations for all who are suffering so much from the wet in the UK. We have two deleted submitters this week as their emails are bouncing. All their surnames have been deleted and will have to be sent in again if they are to be included in the database. Kerry Hutson (2 names) [email protected] Mal Pace (33 names) [email protected] On the bright side, 20 new surnames have been submitted. Good luck everyone! Remember, to look these up you have to go to the YKS Home Page Index at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/. ALDEN BLACKBURN, BROTHERTON COOK, CORDINGLEY DEANE, DIXON(2) HAYES KEETON, KERSHAW MELLOR, MOISLEY NAIFF POOL, PRATT SEARBY WILKINSON, WISEMAN, WOOD Magdalena -- Magdalena Gorrell Guimaraens List Administrator INSTRUCTIONS FOR SUBMITTING NAMES and Home Page: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/ PLEASE ADDRESS ALL CORRESPONDENCE TO: [email protected]

Hello folks. I am new to this list. What a great website you have assembled! My wife (Margaret Wheelhouse of Glasgow) has ancestors Richard Wheelhouse 1820-1882 b Killamarsh Derbyshire died Sheffield and Mary Ann Morley b 1829 Hollinsend Sheffield died 1909 Sheffield. They married 1846 Sheffield. I am keen to find parents for Mary Ann - or indeed any connection. I believe 7 of their surviving children remained in Sheffield whilst Albert went up to Glasgow. thanks JOHN SHAW AUCKLAND NZ.

Hi Angela, Thanks for the correct street name. I have bought the only two certificates in the GRO that are close and they are not the correct ones. Knowing the street and district location will help me. Perhaps he isn't registered, or perhaps the birthdate that has been passed along is out by a year. I thought that I might try looking at some parish records if I couild figure out the nearby churches. I have found this 1890's map http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~engsheffield/streetrelated/1890smap.htm <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Eengsheffield/streetrelated/1890smap.htm> I have been looking at the above map and have found Sussex Street between the River Don and the Sheffield Canal just above where the railways cross. I see three churches: To the south on Broad St, to the East on Tinsley Rd, and to the west on Mowbray St. I have looked at the Genuki list of churches, but cannot match any of these with the churches listed on the link below with any certainty http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Sheffield/ChurchesOfEngland.html I have also looked up St. John's, Park, Sheffield in google but cannot find any reference to the parish records, and can't see that it is listed on the churches that have been filmed on www.familysearch.org. Can someone familiar with this area of Sheffield suggest which churches were nearby and in existence in 1853? My second question is - "Does ecclesiastical Parish" in a census indicate the nearest parish church? Thanks, Charlotte Edwards Vancouver, BC, Canada >From: "A. Treweek" <[email protected]> >Subject: [SHEFF] 1851 census (Supra street) > >Hi Charlotte. > >Welcome to the list. > >The name of the street in the 1851 census is "Sussex" St. > >I have had a hand in transcribing the indexes for Sheffield Register Office, only the year is entered in the index so it automatically defaults to 1/1/YYYY. > >... > >St John's Park district is on the corner of Bernard St and Cricket Inn Rd...It is not St John's at Owlerton > >Kind Regards >Angela Eckington U.K. > >

Hi Charlotte. Welcome to the list. The name of the street in the 1851 census is "Sussex" St. I have had a hand in transcribing the indexes for Sheffield Register Office, only the year is entered in the index so it automatically defaults to 1/1/YYYY. As Charlotte was living in the Sheffield Park District, I would try for a birth certificate in the Dec Q of 1853 or March Q 1854. Also bear in mind that not all births were registered before the births and deaths act of 1874. Before 1875 the onus was on the registrar to register a birth, after this the responsibility passed to whosoever was present at the birth, and a penalty was introduced for non-registration within 42 days. If you can't find Joseph's birth certificate...see if you can find one of the other childrens and this will confirm the mothers maiden name. St John's Park district is on the corner of Bernard St and Cricket Inn Rd...It is not St John's at Owlerton Kind Regards Angela Eckington U.K. _________________________________________________________________ Celeb spotting – Play CelebMashup and win cool prizes https://www.celebmashup.com/index2.html

Hi List, Is anyone following a ROSS line, I have a Mary (Ann) ROSS, born approx. 1843 (as her age on her marriage cert. to Charles WARBURTON in 1863 is 20). On other censuses she appears to be aged about 3 years younger). Her birth in 1871 (aged 27) in down as Rotherham, Lancs (and off course I know that Rotherham is not in Lancs). On 1881 (when she is a DENTITH, living with her WARBURTON children, she is down as born Salford, Lancs. Same on 1891 census, and then reverts back to her widow name off WARBURTON in 1901and is born as Salford. I cannot work out any reason why she would put Rotherham, if she was not born there? Just hoping that anyone out there may have her in any other earlier census (1851 or 1852) as she may have had siblings that someone maybe researching? Her father was John ROSS, occ. striker in 1863. Thanks in advance for any answers. Regards Gisela Australia

Hi I have just joined the Sheffield list as I am doing some research on my husband's family from Sheffield His mother's family include Joseph WRIGHT (bn 1853 Sheffield) and married to Martha SANDERSON (bn 1854 Sheffield) lived in Sheffield in 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901 then came to Canada first in 1903 with most of the family following in 1905 James ELLIOT (bn abt 1852 Sheffield) and married to Thirza DAVIES (bn abt 1854 Dudley, WOR) Their daughter Eugenia Beatrice ELLIOT married Albert GOODLAD. He died about 1910 and Eugenia Beatrice (ELLIOTT) GOODLAD came to Canada and married Austin WRIGHT (son of Joseph and Martha above. ========= The mother of Joseph WRIGHT (1853) is Caroline WRIGHT (transcribed as Wight) in 1851 is living at the following census location in Sheffield 1851 Census: HO107 / 2341 folio 17 p. 26 District Sheffield, sub district Sheffield Park, Enumeration District #1 and I have Supra Street written down. Is this correct? I cannot find it on any recent maps so perhaps that street no longer exists or I read it incorrectly. The census information also says Eccl Parish St. John -- would this be St. John Owelerton on the parish map of Sheffield? I am looking for her son Joseph who has a birthdate of 21 Dec 1853. I have tried a couple of certificates from the GRO indexes which are near that date with no luck. I have also found Joseph 1/1/1855 48 16 Sheffield North on the Sheffield City Council site, Perhaps Joseph was registered in 1854 . Does anyone know what this date on the Sheffield City Council site means? All the dates are listed as 1/1/ year. Another possible is : Joseph 1/1/1851 16 39 Sheffield Park is also on the Sheffield City Council site, but 1851 is two years earlier than what I understand his birthdate to be. Most census info indicates the 1853 birthdate is correct. Her husband Joseph WRIGHT is still in Mattersey, NTT in the 1851 census, but they are both in Sheffield RG 9 / 3481 Folio 91 p. 8, Sheffield, Eccp Par St. Philiips in the 1861 census. I have to get the birth certificate , but I suspect Caroline's maiden name is BISHOP. Is anyone else researching any of these families? or can anyone me if I have the streetname correct? Thanks Charlotte Edwards, Vancouver, BC, Canada

Hi Don. The records are deposited with the London Metropolitan Archives. check out http://www.a2a.org.uk/ Held at: London Metropolitan Archives HM Prison, WandsworthScope and Content The records, ranging in date from 1847 to 1984, relate to prison administration, the prisoners, and, to a much a lesser extent, the prison staff. The earliest records are a minute and letter book, 1847-1850, and a letter book, 1848-1852, of the Committee for building a new prison in Surrey (ACC/3444/AD/01/001-002). With regard to records relating to prisoners, the main series is the nominal registers (ACC/3444/PR/01), giving details of the name, age, trade, education, and religion of the prisoner, the date of committal, details of the offence and sentence and the date of discharge. These are in chronological order and run from 1879 to 1956, with several volumes produced each year. Unfortunately, there are only a few indexes to these registers. Those that survive run from 1940 to 1956 only (ACC/3444/PR/02). The other important series giving details about individual prisoners are the registers of executions, 1892-1961 (ACC/3444/PR/03), and files on condemned prisoners, 1933-1954 (ACC/3444/PR/04). Also of interest is a series of glass plates of prison officers and prisoners from 1920 to the 1930s. Kind Regards. Angela UK _________________________________________________________________ The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail http://www.newhotmail.co.uk

For some time I have been seeking information regarding my grandfather but with no success. I have found a marriage in Middlesex (London) in 1882 which could be the one I am seeking. The name of the groom is James COCHRANE not COCKLIN. The hand written H in COCHRANE could, of course, be a K The 1881 census has a prisoner in H. M. Prison, Wandsworth named as James COCKRANE . Could anyone advise me if it is possible to find details of his record ? Don Cocklin Co. Durham

Is there anyone on the list who has connections to this family" Michael WASHINGTON mrd Mary LONGBOTTOM (baptised Mar 1788 Bingley) Children: Michael 1805 Nichol 1805 James 1811 William 1813 Samuel 1816 Hannah 1818 George 1821 Ann 1824 For many years I have had Michael's parents as Michael b.1766 Mirfield and Martha (?) b 1761 but recently I have received information on the previous generation (Michael WASHINGTON and Elizabeth BARKER) which throws doubt on the LONGBOTTOM marriage. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I am not able to get to an LDS Centre unfortunately. Anne -- Anne PICKETTS Waipu, NZ Researching: LEADBEATER, SMITH, WASHINGTON, BARKER, SHEPHERD, PEARSON, ROBINSON, GILL, HARRIS, FISH, SUTTON in YKS and CBL

Hello, My name is JOHN HARDING, I am new to this list and I am researching my family history. My grandfather was Arthur WILSON - born 1898 Darnall, Sheffield his father was George Edwin WILSON no more information. In 1921 Arthur married Elsie COWLISHAW.- born 1902 in Sheffield her father was George COWLISHAW, ( something to do with the Manor Estate and farming). If this rings a bell with anyone I would be most grateful for any information. Also researching HARDING and CHIPPS Many thanks in anticipation, JOHN

I just wanted to send a thank you to everyone who helped me! Out trip to England is all booked now, and I am looking forward to seeing where my family came from! I have now received a map of grave numbers for city rd. cemetery section D, and should be able to locate the grave of my Great Grandfather, William George Liversidge. I am really hoping that he has a grave marker...but, will be just as happy to pay my respects if he does not. If anyone needs to find the location of a grave number in Section D of this cemetery let me know....as I have the location of the graves on a little map. Thanks again! -- Carol ____________________________ www.liversidge.ca www.liversidge.blogspot.com ____________________________

Hello Listers, I have joined this list in the hope someone may be able to help me with information on this OLDALE/BRADSHAW family. I am looking for information on Ann BRADSHAW b.1885 in Sheffield. Her parents were Thomas BRADSHAW and Jane. Ann married John Charles OLDALE in 1920 in Eccelsall Bierlow. At this stage I don't know if either had been married previously. John Charles was b. 1879 in Sheffield. His parents were Henry Albert OLDALE and Charlotte. During the early 1940's John and Ann OLDALE lived in Windy House Lane, Sheffield. John was a plumber. Any help would be most appreciated, especially the period in the 1920's and 30's. Regards, Pat.

This message forwarded by list admin ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 9:00 AM Subject: JONES and WEBB families >I am currently researching my family tree and have discovered that my Great > Great Grandfather and his family lived in the Sheffield area during the > censuses which took place between 1871 and 1901 inclusive. I would love to > find > out more information about them, their forebears and, if possible, contact > any > living relatives who still reside in the Sheffield area. I'd appreciate if > anyone can help me in this challenge! > > My great great grandfather was Richard JONES (born ~1843 in Redditch, > Worcestershire) and his wife was Ellen WEBB (born ~1842 in Studley or > Alcester, > Warwickshire). They lived at 65 Douglas Road, Brightside Beirlow, > Yorkshire > during the 4 censuses which took place between 1871 and 1901. During that > time > Richard Jones had various jobs including Underhand Puddler (I presume in > steel > manufacturing), a porter, a labourer at a silverplaters and an > engineer/labourer. In this time they raised a large family, namely: > > > * Emma J JONES (~1866 in Wolverhampton, Staffordshire) > * William JONES (~1870 in Sheffield, Yorkshire) > * Arthur JONES (~1874 in Sheffield, Yorkshire) > * Ellen (aka Nellie) JONES (~1876 in Sheffield, Yorkshire) > * Albert JONES (28/05/1885 at 65 Douglas Street, Brightside Bierlow, > Yorkshire - He was my Great Grandfather) > * Elsie JONES (~1887 in Sheffield, Yorkshire) > > > > My Great Grandfather, Albert JONES became an apprentice fisherman in 1901 > in > Grimsby. It is here that he met and married his wife Mary MILNE who was a > Peterhead fishgutter who was working in Lincolnshire at the time. They > moved to > Aberdeen, Scotland and raised a family there - including my Grandfather > Albert JONES. My father was also born in Aberdeen and is yet another > Albert > JONES! I was born in Aberdeen and now live in Shetland. > > I would appreciate if anyone can help me find more information about > Richard > and Ellen JONES. > > Looking at Google Earth I get the impression that no houses exist anymore > on > Douglas Road. Can anyone confirm if 65 Douglas Road still exists or not? > > Regards, > > Kevin Albert Jones > > > > > >

In a message dated 07/07/2007 04:02:34 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Ann married John Charles OLDALE in 1920 in Eccelsall Bierlow. At this stage I don't know if either had been married previously. Hi As you know the marriage date you could send for one. This would tell you if they were married before and fathers names and jobs of both parties. If they were under 21 then I will give you their age so that you can look up their births, Sometime certificates say of full age [over 21] or if you are lucky they give the age over 21. You can obtain one on line costing £7. which is the current rate from _http://www.col.statistics.gov.uk/login.asp_ (http://www.col.statistics.gov.uk/login.asp) All you need is the year, place, quarter, volume and page number which in your case is 1920 - Ecclesall B. -Dec - 9c - 742. It usually takes about 7 to 14 days. You do not need to give parents names or even spouse on the form. Regards JUDY ELKINGTON [email protected] www.elkingtonfamily.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

I just got a page of a pasenger list for the Euripides which sailed from Liverpool to Australia on the 17th Sep 1927. These people from Sheffield were on the page Mrs Ellen Nicholson 23yo Housewife Nellie 3yo Ronald 1yo Their address was 63 Walkley Lane Sheffield. Hope this may be of interest to someone. John

Hi List, Just introducing my interests having just joined the list. BARKER - Handsworth / Richmond MABSON - Ecclesfield / Wortley - Butchers by trade HARTLEY - Ecclesfield Any sightings appreciated. Regards Pete Barker Wiltshire UK

Do you know about the WILDGOOSE site at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~willgooseweb/welcome.htm ? This may be of some help Good Luck John

Hi All Further to my recent message: I am trying to learn more about Vernon WILDGOOSE alias MARSHALL who was living at 17 Well Meadow St, St Annes, Netherthorpe, Sheffield age 10 on the 1901 census. Hi full name given as Vernon Gerald George Marshall on his sons marriage certificate. I believe that his name was changed to Marshall before his Army service started (1915) and his marriage which took place later. I believe that Vernon WILDGOOSE was the son of Ann Milland/Melland WILDGOOSE. He was born around 1891 in/around Ranmoor, Upper Hallam, Sheffield. >>>>>>> I have now obtained the birth cert for Gerald Wildgoose bn 10 Feb 1891 and his mother was Ann Melland WILDGOOSE father not given. I also have the death cert for Ann Melland WILDGOOSE in 1913. Unfortunately she died in Hospital so the informant was not a relative. Can anyone have a look at the Electoral Rolls/Registers for 1911, or close to this year, for any WILDGOOSE or MARSHALL entries living in Paradise Square, Sheffield. I know that this is a lot to ask but I am hoping to get an address for the family in 1911 so that I can pay to find them on the 1911 census. Thanks Dave

I hope everyone had a very fruitful time at the York Gen Fair, in spite of the weather. I hope to make it next year. Meanwhile, here is this week's update. 2 submitters deleted because of bouncing emails and several new submissions. Deletions: Eunice (1) [email protected] Ann Copple (2) [email protected] New submissions: BAILEY, BOOTH, BURDETT, BURROW, BUTT(E)RICK CLAYTON HEBDEN, , HUSTARD, HUSTED LAMBERT MARSDEN, MARSON, MITCHELL ONEILL YOUNG Regards to everyone, Magdalena -- Magdalena Gorrell Guimaraens List Administrator INSTRUCTIONS FOR SUBMITTING NAMES and Home Page: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/ PLEASE ADDRESS ALL CORRESPONDENCE TO: [email protected]