This is not my family, or my county but I came across this on a Dorset mailing list. Sidmouth is in Devon, near Exeter. THE WESTERN GAZETTE A Weekly Newspaper for Somerset, Dorset, Wilts, Hants and Berks. Guaranteed circulation 59,000 weekly. Wiltshire Edition No 9305 Friday January 8, 1915 Page 12 Column g. DEATHS WATERFALL Dec 27 at Edge Cliff Sidmouth, Gilbert Cowley second son of the late William Cowley Waterfall of Sheffield aged 33

Hi Marea, The following is the entry for the family from the 1841 census. HO107/1331/5 Folio 31a, Handsworth Registration District Address : Normanton Spring John Lowe, Age 35, Mason, Born Yorkshire Ann Lowe, Age 35, No occupation, Born Yorkshire Mary Lowe, Age 30, No occupation, Born Yorkshire Henry Lowe, Age 25, Mason, Born Yorkshire Joseph Lowe, Age 15, Mason, Born Yorkshire Sarah Lowe, Age 14, No occupation, Born Yorkshire Unfortunately relationships between household members weren't given in the 1841 census. The area Normanton Spring still exists - its South East of Sheffield near Woodhouse. Regards, Martin Cross Essex Researching ALLEN, CODD, CROSS, HINCHLIFFE, JONES, MAPPIN, MARRIN, McCREELEY, RAWSON, WEBSTER in the Sheffield/Derbyshire area. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marea Sherman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 4:10 AM Subject: Re: [SHEFF] re 1841 census sheffield > can someone give me info for these people from the above census > john lowe normanton springs supposed batchelor > ann lowe sister > mary lowe sister > can`t remember others in house hold all living/born normanton springs > can i have explantion to where normanton springs is and birth place of > this family > thanks > marea > > > --------------------------------- > Make the switch to the world's best email. Get the new Yahoo!7 Mail now. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Carol Cooper wrote: I always thought that the Quakers were on a circuit as were the Methodists, so there may be records elsewhere. Apologies if this has been dealt with; I'm away from home and have missed some emails. Quakers were organised in Monthly Meetings, grouped into Quarterly Meetings and all under London Yearly Meeting. The area of Sheffield was in Balby Monthly Meeting, and Balby MM records may be at Friends' House, Euston Road, London. The library staff there are very helpful (and the cafeteria is cheap and good!)

Hi Judy As this cannot be sent through rootsweb I am attaching the first pages from the original book on sheffield Flood. I would appear that there were two YEARDLEY children who were not identified which could mean two things. one they were unrecognisable or they were separated from their parents or family and could not be found at the time. Perhaps these chil;dren were lost in the flood and their bodies carried to Rotherham which was a long way but I know some victims were found there, I have highlighted them for you. You may never be able to work out the truth. Hope this helps. Let me know if it arrives OK. Many thanks for your messages, for your comments and for the attachment. I must admit over the years I have found numerous errors on the list of victims produced by Chief Constable John Jackson and reproduced in Samuel Harrison's book, like the fact that little John Yeardley was not found .... he was certainly buried in Rotherham. I have [since my list message] found several other members of the family at Rotherham Moorgate so I think he probably ended up there too. Angela and Bev have suggested that the service waas carried out in the church and the burial in the cemetery and this certainly makes sense. Like you say though, I may never work out the truth for this or for the many other "flood mysteries" that I have but I would dearly would love to solve them all! Thanks again for your reply it is very much appreciated. Best Wishes Karen

Hi Marea + Martin. I have a HINCHLIFFE connection in that my Elizabeth METTAM of Eckington parish had a child Sarah bapt 1835; by Rowland HINCHLIFFE. Elizabeth and Rowland later married. Do you have any information on Rowland HINCHLIFFE ? My LOWE family were living only abt. 10 miles away from Normanton Spring in 1841, at Calow, DBS. + at Grassmoor + Tupton. Regards Dennis FLAVELL. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Cross" <[email protected]> To: "Marea Sherman" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [SHEFF] re 1841 census sheffield > Hi Marea, > The following is the entry for the family from the 1841 census. > > HO107/1331/5 Folio 31a, Handsworth Registration District > > Address : Normanton Spring > > John Lowe, Age 35, Mason, Born Yorkshire > Ann Lowe, Age 35, No occupation, Born Yorkshire > Mary Lowe, Age 30, No occupation, Born Yorkshire > Henry Lowe, Age 25, Mason, Born Yorkshire > Joseph Lowe, Age 15, Mason, Born Yorkshire > Sarah Lowe, Age 14, No occupation, Born Yorkshire > > Unfortunately relationships between household members weren't given in the > 1841 census. > > The area Normanton Spring still exists - its South East of Sheffield near > Woodhouse. > > Regards, > > Martin Cross > Essex > > Researching ALLEN, CODD, CROSS, HINCHLIFFE, > JONES, MAPPIN, MARRIN, McCREELEY, RAWSON, WEBSTER > in the Sheffield/Derbyshire area.

Hi Karen I have sent you the complete list of people drowned off list as you cannot post them on here. There is also a useful inquest report although you may have already got it. Judy

In a message dated 07/12/2007 23:03:34 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I have also bought the burial records for Rotherham Moorgate but this shows a burial on 7th April 1864 for John Yeardley but here his age was recorded as 38. I do know John was a little boy when he died so I think one year old is correct but I am confused by the mention of the different cemeteries. Hi At a time when there was so much angst over this flood, perhaps he lived in one parish and was found in the other. It is difficult to say which he was buried in, but if the rest of his family were in one, perhaps his death was recorded there whilst, because of the confusion at the time, he was buried in the other. Regards JUDY ELKINGTON [W.R.Yorkshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com [email protected] www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Hi Karen. I have found this in the Sheffield churchyard transcripts and cemeteries. I didn't understand it at first...so I checked Heeley Christ Church burial register and my father is entered in that and again in the City Rd burial register. The service was at the church and the interment was at the cemetery.Angela Treweek _________________________________________________________________ Who's friends with who and co-starred in what? http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml

Hi all I have been researching the YEARDLEY family as part of my research into the victims of the Sheffield Flood [12th March 1864] but have found conflicting details of burials in Rotherham and wondered if anyone out there can help. There are two entries on the NBI for 1 year old John YEARDLEY who drowned in the flood. Both are on 10th April 1864, one at Rotherham Moorgate and the other at Rotherham All Saints. I have also bought the burial records for Rotherham Moorgate but this shows a burial on 7th April 1864 for John Yeardley but here his age was recorded as 38. I do know John was a little boy when he died so I think one year old is correct but I am confused by the mention of the different cemeteries. Any suggestions? TIA Karen Lightowler Doncaster, South Yorkshire Researching the Sheffield Flood http://www.lulu.com/content/723780

Am seeking any information on the PLATTS family of Woodhouse Mill, circa 1900's late 1800's. Could have lived in Watch Street ? Regards Dennis FLAVELL.

Carol, do you, or anyone, have a connection with the LOWE family of Calow, Chesterfield, and of Thurnscoe in South Yorks. ? Regards Dennis FLAVELL. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Cooper" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 12:22 PM Subject: [SHEFF] re handsworth woodhouse > Woodhouse in South York's used to be called Handsworth Woodhouse. > Dronfield Woodhouse is in Derbyshire. > Marea's Lowe ancestors were from Handsworth Woodhouse, near Sheffield and > I have previously found some of these for her and posted all the > information to her that there is, or at least all that I have found. There > may be further information in the Sheffield archives but not sure about > this. I always thought that the Quakers were on a circuit as were the > Methodists, so there may be records elsewhere. > They were buried in the old Quaker burial ground, opposite where I live at > Woodhouse. > The Meeting House is now two private dwellings and recently part of the > large garden of one of them [ not the one where the 500 people were > buried ] has been sold off and a 4 bedroomed house is now nearly completed > on this. > A path has been left down one side in case anyone wants to visit from > abroad and presumably if anyone wants to be buried in the small walled off > part of the burial ground that contains some gravestones, all around the > edge of it. I assume that this part is still consecrated. > > Carol , Woodhouse, Sheffield > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I don't think that Quakers were on a "circuit", though they had very strong links between their individual meeting houses in various parts of the country - particularly in Yorkshire. I believe that the Brotherton Library in Leeds is one of main repositories of Quaker records in Yorkshire - Also the University of Hull has a Quaker "project" mentioning the Sheffield archives too Suggest you "google" these links to get further details. Richard in Surrey -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Carol Cooper Sent: 06 December 2007 12:22 To: [email protected] Subject: [SHEFF] re handsworth woodhouse Woodhouse in South York's used to be called Handsworth Woodhouse. Dronfield Woodhouse is in Derbyshire. Marea's Lowe ancestors were from Handsworth Woodhouse, near Sheffield and I have previously found some of these for her and posted all the information to her that there is, or at least all that I have found. There may be further information in the Sheffield archives but not sure about this. I always thought that the Quakers were on a circuit as were the Methodists, so there may be records elsewhere. They were buried in the old Quaker burial ground, opposite where I live at Woodhouse. The Meeting House is now two private dwellings and recently part of the large garden of one of them [ not the one where the 500 people were buried ] has been sold off and a 4 bedroomed house is now nearly completed on this. A path has been left down one side in case anyone wants to visit from abroad and presumably if anyone wants to be buried in the small walled off part of the burial ground that contains some gravestones, all around the edge of it. I assume that this part is still consecrated. Carol , Woodhouse, Sheffield ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Woodhouse in South York's used to be called Handsworth Woodhouse. Dronfield Woodhouse is in Derbyshire. Marea's Lowe ancestors were from Handsworth Woodhouse, near Sheffield and I have previously found some of these for her and posted all the information to her that there is, or at least all that I have found. There may be further information in the Sheffield archives but not sure about this. I always thought that the Quakers were on a circuit as were the Methodists, so there may be records elsewhere. They were buried in the old Quaker burial ground, opposite where I live at Woodhouse. The Meeting House is now two private dwellings and recently part of the large garden of one of them [ not the one where the 500 people were buried ] has been sold off and a 4 bedroomed house is now nearly completed on this. A path has been left down one side in case anyone wants to visit from abroad and presumably if anyone wants to be buried in the small walled off part of the burial ground that contains some gravestones, all around the edge of it. I assume that this part is still consecrated. Carol , Woodhouse, Sheffield

Dronfield Woodhouse is miles from Woodhouse as a look at the map will show, I havent't heard of Woodhouse being called Handsworth Woodhouse. I used to be children's librarian at Woodhouse. Many years ago. It is near Handsworth and probably more years ago it was called Handsworth Woodhouse. Kate Colgrave. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 8:04 AM Subject: ENG-SHEFFIELD Digest, Vol 2, Issue 255 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: what church for this ([email protected]) > 2. Re: what church for this (Richard Tetley) > 3. Re: what church for this ([email protected]) > 4. Woodhouse (Dennis Flavell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 09:45:52 EST > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SHEFF] what church for this > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > In a message dated 05/12/2007 01:37:35 GMT Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > i got an entry off the LDS site but i can`t work out where it came from > can > someone help please > ann Low > c/born 15-4-1688 woodhouse > father Hugh Low > what was around at this time > > > > Hi > > Woodhouse is probably the village on the edge of Sheffield which was > also > called Dronfield Woodhouse or Handsworth Woodhouse. This are was one > of > the areas where Quakers held their meetings. However, your need to find > out a > little more about the family and see if they were following the Quaker > Religion. > > There are Lowe's registered as Quakers at Handsworth/Woodhouse so it may > very well be your family. Please remember that there would also a > church of > England there as well. Could you get to an LDS Centre to look at the > Church > Records as many of them are now on film. > > Regards > > JUDY ELKINGTON > [W.R.Yorkshire, England] > > www.elkingtonfamily.com > [email protected] > www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 14:59:53 +0000 > From: Richard Tetley <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SHEFF] what church for this > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Dronfield Woodhouse and Handsworth Woodhouse are quite different places, > some distance apart. > They should not be confused with Woodhouse. > > regards > Richard > > [email protected] wrote: > >> >> In a message dated 05/12/2007 01:37:35 GMT Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> i got an entry off the LDS site but i can`t work out where it came from >> can >> someone help please >> ann Low >> c/born 15-4-1688 woodhouse >> father Hugh Low >> what was around at this time >> >> Hi >> >> Woodhouse is probably the village on the edge of Sheffield which was >> also >> called Dronfield Woodhouse or Handsworth Woodhouse. This are was one >> of >> the areas where Quakers held their meetings. However, your need to >> find out a >> little more about the family and see if they were following the Quaker >> Religion. >> >> There are Lowe's registered as Quakers at Handsworth/Woodhouse so it may >> very well be your family. Please remember that there would also a >> church of >> England there as well. Could you get to an LDS Centre to look at the >> Church >> Records as many of them are now on film. >> >> Regards >> >> JUDY ELKINGTON >> [W.R.Yorkshire, England] >> >> www.elkingtonfamily.com >> [email protected] >> www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 12:54:10 EST > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SHEFF] what church for this > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > In a message dated 05/12/2007 15:00:27 GMT Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Dronfield Woodhouse and Handsworth Woodhouse are quite different places, > some distance apart. > They should not be confused with Woodhouse. > > > I agree. But as it just says Woodhouse Yorkshire, it is not very > specific > and one must keep an open mind and think laterally on this one. As I > live > near this area I am quite cognisant with where they all are. but > sometimes it > is necessary to consider all options. > > Regards > > JUDY ELKINGTON > [W.R.Yorkshire, England] > > www.elkingtonfamily.com > [email protected] > www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 20:24:17 -0000 > From: "Dennis Flavell" <[email protected]> > Subject: [SHEFF] Woodhouse > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > My PLATTS / SALES grandparents lived 20thC in Woodhouse Mill, > Woodhouse,which was / is situated to the east of Sheffield city centre. > > Regards > > Dennis FLAVELL > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ENG-SHEFFIELD list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the ENG-SHEFFIELD mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ENG-SHEFFIELD Digest, Vol 2, Issue 255 > *********************************************

If you Google Treeton History Society and look at their web site, they have links to neighbouring parishes, including Woodhouse and Handsworth for maps etc in the 1800s. Barbara

Dronfield Woodhouse and Handsworth Woodhouse are quite different places, some distance apart. They should not be confused with Woodhouse. regards Richard [email protected] wrote: > > In a message dated 05/12/2007 01:37:35 GMT Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > i got an entry off the LDS site but i can`t work out where it came from can > someone help please > ann Low > c/born 15-4-1688 woodhouse > father Hugh Low > what was around at this time > > Hi > > Woodhouse is probably the village on the edge of Sheffield which was also > called Dronfield Woodhouse or Handsworth Woodhouse. This are was one of > the areas where Quakers held their meetings. However, your need to find out a > little more about the family and see if they were following the Quaker > Religion. > > There are Lowe's registered as Quakers at Handsworth/Woodhouse so it may > very well be your family. Please remember that there would also a church of > England there as well. Could you get to an LDS Centre to look at the Church > Records as many of them are now on film. > > Regards > > JUDY ELKINGTON > [W.R.Yorkshire, England] > > www.elkingtonfamily.com > [email protected] > www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 05/12/2007 15:00:27 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Dronfield Woodhouse and Handsworth Woodhouse are quite different places, some distance apart. They should not be confused with Woodhouse. I agree. But as it just says Woodhouse Yorkshire, it is not very specific and one must keep an open mind and think laterally on this one. As I live near this area I am quite cognisant with where they all are. but sometimes it is necessary to consider all options. Regards JUDY ELKINGTON [W.R.Yorkshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com [email protected] www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

i got an entry off the LDS site but i can`t work out where it came from can someone help please ann Low c/born 15-4-1688 woodhouse father Hugh Low what was around at this time thanks marea --------------------------------- Make the switch to the world's best email. Get the new Yahoo!7 Mail now.

In a message dated 05/12/2007 01:37:35 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: i got an entry off the LDS site but i can`t work out where it came from can someone help please ann Low c/born 15-4-1688 woodhouse father Hugh Low what was around at this time Hi Woodhouse is probably the village on the edge of Sheffield which was also called Dronfield Woodhouse or Handsworth Woodhouse. This are was one of the areas where Quakers held their meetings. However, your need to find out a little more about the family and see if they were following the Quaker Religion. There are Lowe's registered as Quakers at Handsworth/Woodhouse so it may very well be your family. Please remember that there would also a church of England there as well. Could you get to an LDS Centre to look at the Church Records as many of them are now on film. Regards JUDY ELKINGTON [W.R.Yorkshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com [email protected] www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

My PLATTS / SALES grandparents lived 20thC in Woodhouse Mill, Woodhouse,which was / is situated to the east of Sheffield city centre. Regards Dennis FLAVELL