I have a Charles Henry White on the 1901 census RG/4359 folio 42. I think that his occupation is Etcher, although the enumerators mark is across it, but cannot make out what the second word of his occupation is. Can anyone help decipher it please? Carol, Sheffield

In a message dated 12/01/2008 17:30:32 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I have a Charles Henry White on the 1901 census RG/4359 folio 42. I think that his occupation is Etcher, although the enumerators mark is across it, but cannot make out what the second word of his occupation is. Can anyone help decipher it please? Hi I think perhaps he found the work too hard a the Bessemer Steel Factory or got the sack and became an etcher/possible sculptor. However I think the job probably involved work with the Britannia Metal wares which were produced a lot in Sheffield at that time. Sheffield was a big industrial area at that time and apart from many large steel works there was also a thriving trade for many silver smiths. regards JUDY ELKINGTON [W.R.Yorkshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com [email protected] www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

In a message dated 12/01/2008 18:45:30 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Could it be Sculp ? Again it's the statistician who has written this afterwards: wonder if he etched plates for artists? or something????!!!! He's working on his own account, too. On the previous page is an Artist Sculp - own account at home. Word looks similar. Hi. The Bessemer Steel Furnace was a large receptacle wherein steel was made. I do not think that it would be used by anyone Sculpting. The Bessemer Converter could make 30 tons of high-grade steel in half an hour. He may have been the man in charge but I do not think he could work this on his own. You will find a full description of a Bessemer convertor with picture on this site. _http://www.simt.co.uk/collections/collections-2-2.html regards JUDY ELKINGTON [W.R.Yorkshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com [email protected] www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html _ (http://www.simt.co.uk/collections/collections-2-2.htmlregardsJUDY ELKINGTON[W.R.Yorkshire, England][email protected]/profiles/elkington.html )

In a message dated 12/01/2008 13:01:07 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: However, on Pinfold St in 1841 there is the following WATKINSON family: Willm, 53, Painter Hs Ann, 51 (?) Ann, 27 Willm, 21, Painter Hs John COCKIN, 13, App Hi. This is William born 2nd February 1788 in India. He was a Painter and Ann was his wife and the other Ann one of his children. I thin k he perhaps took over Joseph Badger's business. I am looking through records trying to find his father, Lt. G. Watkinson who is proving impossible to find. I suspect that Joseph Badger is dead at this time after all if he was the uncle of William Then he must have been at least 20 in 1788 and I am looking for him 50 years later. Thank you for your help. regards JUDY ELKINGTON [W.R.Yorkshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com [email protected] www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

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Judy writes: >Has anyone any notes on the name Watkinson. I am looking for this man who >probably came from Sheffield. I have all his relations from his son >William's birth. > >Sheffield Telegraph - He was born in India, February 2nd 1788 and was the >only son of Lt. G. Watkinson who died when his son was only a few >months old. >He was sent to England to his uncle and guardian Joseph Badger, Esq., of >this town. He carried on his business in Pinfold Street for many years. > >I am also searching for his uncle Joseph Badger who had a business in >Pinfold Street. In an 1837 Directory he was a Plumber and Painter and >William >became a painter [house] when he grew up. As Badger was his uncle >perhaps the >mother of this child was born a Badger and married Lt. G. Watkinson. His >mother could have course have been an Indian. > >Could anyone do me a look up of the 1841 census to see if you can find >either man. By "either man", I'm assuming (always dangerous!) that you mean William WATKINSON and Joseph BADGER... The only Joseph BADGERs indexed in the 1841 census as living in Sheffield were neither Plumbers nor Painters. However, on Pinfold St in 1841 there is the following WATKINSON family: Willm, 53, Painter Hs Ann, 51 (?) Ann, 27 Willm, 21, Painter Hs John COCKIN, 13, App all shown as born in the county. Dave in northern Illinois

Good Morning All: I am not researching the above OXLEY but while going through some of my paperwork from the list, I found the following posting dated 26 Jan 2004 by John Woolsey. The following is from his listing of Heeley PR's Sept - Oct. 1893. Oct. 4, 1893 Baptisms Eliza, daughter of Walter and Sarah OXLEY 41 View Road Hope it is of some use. Trish _________________________________________________________________ Discover new ways to stay in touch with Windows Live! Visit the City @ Live today! http://getyourliveid.ca/?icid=LIVEIDENCA006

I would like to locate the descendants of my grandfather's only sister, red-haired Beatrice Jarvis (nee Smith) born about 1898 in Heeley. She had only one girl, Winnifred Jarvis b. 1920. There were brothers too, one being Willie Jarvis. Winnifred, my mother's cousin, may have married an Albert Pike in 1941. After this point, I have 'lost' her trail. Any information or advice would be much appreciated. Chris in Ontario

Hi Sue The Oxley name is fairly common in the Rotherham area in the 19c, and a lot of them were miners and moved around a bit. As you say Hoyland/Elsecar is not far away so it could be worth looking in Rotherham. Stuart sjw wrote: > Hi > > I have an Arthur Oxley in my tree, but he was born (c. 1835) in Elsecar > (Hoyland). However, its not far from Kimberworth, just up the road. > > He was the son of Joseph and Sarah Oxley. > > If any of you find any tie ups, I'd be happy to hear from you. Oxley > doesn't seem that common a surname in the area. (??) > > Sue > UK > > > > > > > On 5/1/08 5:50 pm, "Stuart Reeves" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Dave wrote: >> >>> Hi All: >>> >>> I received Arthur OXLEY's birth cert today, born 27 May 1843. His mother >>> is not the anticipated Elizabeth, but Martha OXLEY, a Singlewoman of >>> Kimberworth, which is of no assistance to me. >>> >>> However, it may be of use to one of you other OXLEY researchers. If so, >>> let me know (by direct e-mail, not the list), and I'll post it - FREE - >>> which should appeal to any true Yorkshireman (or Yorkshirewoman). >>> >>> Dave >>> in warming - temporarily - northern Illinois >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >> Hi Dave >> >> This is very interesting, I have Kimberworth Oxley's in my tree, >> including the only Martha Oxley in Kimberworth (or so I think). >> >> I have suspected for a long time she had children as a single woman, but >> thought they were called William (1840) and Samuel (1843), she later >> went on to marry her half uncle who lived with the family in the early >> 1840's. >> >> Is there any more information on the cert, to much to hope for the >> fathers name. >> >> You must therefore have Oxley interests in Rotherham, there were quite a >> few different families in Rotherham, in places like Kimberworth, >> Greasbrough etc.. the families are fewer and more easily connected. >> >> >> >> Stuart Reeves >> Sheffield >> >> Researching >> >> Reeves, Atkin, Oxley, Coates, Tate, Bott in Sheffield and Rotherham >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi, Has anyone any notes on the name Watkinson. I am looking for this man who probably came from Sheffield. I have all his relations from his son William's birth. Sheffield Telegraph - He was born in India, February 2nd 1788 and was the only son of Lt. G. Watkinson who died when his son was only a few months old. He was sent to England to his uncle and guardian Joseph Badger, Esq., of this town. He carried on his business in Pinfold Street for many years. I am also searching for his uncle Joseph Badger who had a business in Pinfold Street. In an 1837 Directory he was a Plumber and Painter and William became a painter [house] when he grew up. As Badger was his uncle perhaps the mother of this child was born a Badger and married Lt. G. Watkinson. His mother could have course have been an Indian. Could anyone do me a look up of the 1841 census to see if you can find either man. Thank you in Advance regards JUDY ELKINGTON [W.R.Yorkshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com [email protected] www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Hi I have an Arthur Oxley in my tree, but he was born (c. 1835) in Elsecar (Hoyland). However, its not far from Kimberworth, just up the road. He was the son of Joseph and Sarah Oxley. If any of you find any tie ups, I'd be happy to hear from you. Oxley doesn't seem that common a surname in the area. (??) Sue UK On 5/1/08 5:50 pm, "Stuart Reeves" <[email protected]> wrote: > Dave wrote: >> Hi All: >> >> I received Arthur OXLEY's birth cert today, born 27 May 1843. His mother >> is not the anticipated Elizabeth, but Martha OXLEY, a Singlewoman of >> Kimberworth, which is of no assistance to me. >> >> However, it may be of use to one of you other OXLEY researchers. If so, >> let me know (by direct e-mail, not the list), and I'll post it - FREE - >> which should appeal to any true Yorkshireman (or Yorkshirewoman). >> >> Dave >> in warming - temporarily - northern Illinois >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > Hi Dave > > This is very interesting, I have Kimberworth Oxley's in my tree, > including the only Martha Oxley in Kimberworth (or so I think). > > I have suspected for a long time she had children as a single woman, but > thought they were called William (1840) and Samuel (1843), she later > went on to marry her half uncle who lived with the family in the early > 1840's. > > Is there any more information on the cert, to much to hope for the > fathers name. > > You must therefore have Oxley interests in Rotherham, there were quite a > few different families in Rotherham, in places like Kimberworth, > Greasbrough etc.. the families are fewer and more easily connected. > > > > Stuart Reeves > Sheffield > > Researching > > Reeves, Atkin, Oxley, Coates, Tate, Bott in Sheffield and Rotherham > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks so much to Elaine, Angela and Dave for so quickly giving my research a very solid start. What helpful folk you all are! Harry Harry Needham 74 Abbeyhill Drive Kanata ON K2L 1H1 Canada +1.613.831-1068 [email protected] http://www.hncs.ca/

Harry Needham writes: >I am looking for any information or sources that might shed some light on >the following: > >John NEEDHAM b. Darnall abt 1847 >His wife Ann Eliza GRAYSON b. (n.p.) bef. 1850, died Ecclesall Bierlow >approx. 23 Nov 1870. >Their only child (my paternal grandfather) John Henry NEEDHAM, b. >Ecclesall Bierlow 23 Nov 1870 > >and > >Hannah LOCKWOOD, b. Sheffield 8 Mar 1841, emigrated to Canada approx 1852, >married Lewis (Luke) Trouse in Ontario. John, b Darnall abt 1847 appears to be the son of John & Isabella NEEDHAM. Father John is shown as b abt 1820 in Eckington Derbyshire, Isabella b abt 1822 in Darnall. In 1861 the family was at the back of 59 Headford St, Ecclesall Bierlow, and in 1871 they were in House 6 Franklin St, EB. In 1861 the household consisted of John, Head, 41, Scissor Forger; Isabella, Wife, 39; Mary A, Dau, Unmarried, 16, Scissor Dresser, Darnall; John, Son, 13, Errand Boy, Darnall; Elizabeth, Dau, 11, Scholar, Darnall; Isabella, Dau, 7, Scholar, Sheffield; and Eliza, Dau, 1, Sheffield. In 1871 the household consisted of John, Head, 51, Scissor Forger; Isabella, Wife, 49; John, Son, Widr, 23, Scissor Forger; Isabella, Dau, Unmarried, 17; Lucy Ann, Dau, 6, Scholar, Sheffield; Henry TAYLOR, Son-in-law, Mar, 23, Spring Knife Grinder, Sheffield; Elizabeth TAYLOR, Dau, Mar, 21; Herbert TAYLOR, Grandson, 2 mo, Sheffield; and John H Needham, Son [should be Grandson...], 4 mo, Sheffield. From FreeBMD, it's likely that John & Ann Eliza GRAYSON were married in the March 1/4 1870, Sheffield 9c 359. If you obtain their marriage certificate, you should get Ann Eliza's father's name and occupation. Hannah LOCKWOOD is a bit more problematical, given the short time she was in the UK before going to Canada. The best candidate I found in 1851 wasn't born in Sheffield but in Glossop, Derbyshire, daughter of William & Priscilla LOCKWOOD, then living on Sheldon St, Ecclesall Bierlow. However, since you appear to have Hannah's exact date of birth, perhaps you already have her birth cert, which would help determine her mother's and father's names. Regards, Dave in northern Illinois

Hi. There is a burial at Sheffield St Marys for Eliza NEEDHAM aged 21 of Franklin St on the 4th December 1870. Kind Regards. Angela _________________________________________________________________ Fancy some celeb spotting? https://www.celebmashup.com

I am looking for any information or sources that might shed some light on the following: John NEEDHAM b. Darnall abt 1847 His wife Ann Eliza GRAYSON b. (n.p.) bef. 1850, died Ecclesall Bierlow approx. 23 Nov 1870. Their only child (my paternal grandfather) John Henry NEEDHAM, b. Ecclesall Bierlow 23 Nov 1870 and Hannah LOCKWOOD, b. Sheffield 8 Mar 1841, emigrated to Canada approx 1852, married Lewis (Luke) Trouse in Ontario. I would be grateful for any information anyone might provide. Thank you. Harry Harry Needham 74 Abbeyhill Drive Kanata ON K2L 1H1 Canada +1.613.831-1068 [email protected] http://www.hncs.ca/

Can anyone please confirm that the Liberal Club at the corner of Anson Street and South Street (behind the Midland Station) occupied post WW2 the former premises of the Reindeer Inn at No 51 South Street - which was also on the corner of Anson Street and South Street? Anson Street did not cross South St but led off to the E. Victor Stone, London

Hello Stuart, Dave and List, First of all if Gordon is still receiving mail, I would like to thank him for been such a good and wise List Administrator for quite a few years. As well, I would like to say that I welcome our new List Administrator, and wish him well in his new endeavour... Josephine M. Laxton To answer the questions raised below re finding absent fathers, it is not an easy task, but can sometimes be achieved. It may be possible to find the name of the father, if one could locate the Parish Chest or Bishop'sTranscripts for theplace where the child was baptized/christened. The Vicars often made notes in the Registers if the father was known even if it wasn't on the birth cert. It was usual to try and get the father to take some responsibility for the child if the father had been identified...if not then it was also usual to assign some Dole poor moneys to the mother from the Parish to help her to raise the child. Hope this is helpful information... The records should be available for both the above. Only by persuing this type of information can one hope to find the truth...Kindest regards, Josephine Ontario Canada. Late of Yorkshire... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Reeves" <[email protected]> To: "Dave" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [SHEFF] Free cert - Arthur OXLEY's birth > Dave wrote: > > Hi All: > > > > I received Arthur OXLEY's birth cert today, born 27 May 1843. His mother > > is not the anticipated Elizabeth, but Martha OXLEY, a Singlewoman of > > Kimberworth, which is of no assistance to me. > > > > However, it may be of use to one of you other OXLEY researchers. If so, > > let me know (by direct e-mail, not the list), and I'll post it - FREE - > > which should appeal to any true Yorkshireman (or Yorkshirewoman). > > > > Dave > > in warming - temporarily - northern Illinois > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > Hi Dave > > This is very interesting, I have Kimberworth Oxley's in my tree, > including the only Martha Oxley in Kimberworth (or so I think). > > I have suspected for a long time she had children as a single woman, but > thought they were called William (1840) and Samuel (1843), she later > went on to marry her half uncle who lived with the family in the early > 1840's. > > Is there any more information on the cert, to much to hope for the > fathers name. > > You must therefore have Oxley interests in Rotherham, there were quite a > few different families in Rotherham, in places like Kimberworth, > Greasbrough etc.. the families are fewer and more easily connected. > > > > Stuart Reeves > Sheffield > > Researching > > Reeves, Atkin, Oxley, Coates, Tate, Bott in Sheffield and Rotherham > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dave wrote: > Hi All: > > I received Arthur OXLEY's birth cert today, born 27 May 1843. His mother > is not the anticipated Elizabeth, but Martha OXLEY, a Singlewoman of > Kimberworth, which is of no assistance to me. > > However, it may be of use to one of you other OXLEY researchers. If so, > let me know (by direct e-mail, not the list), and I'll post it - FREE - > which should appeal to any true Yorkshireman (or Yorkshirewoman). > > Dave > in warming - temporarily - northern Illinois > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Hi Dave This is very interesting, I have Kimberworth Oxley's in my tree, including the only Martha Oxley in Kimberworth (or so I think). I have suspected for a long time she had children as a single woman, but thought they were called William (1840) and Samuel (1843), she later went on to marry her half uncle who lived with the family in the early 1840's. Is there any more information on the cert, to much to hope for the fathers name. You must therefore have Oxley interests in Rotherham, there were quite a few different families in Rotherham, in places like Kimberworth, Greasbrough etc.. the families are fewer and more easily connected. Stuart Reeves Sheffield Researching Reeves, Atkin, Oxley, Coates, Tate, Bott in Sheffield and Rotherham

Dave wrote: > Hi All: > > I received Arthur OXLEY's birth cert today, born 27 May 1843. His mother > is not the anticipated Elizabeth, but Martha OXLEY, a Singlewoman of > Kimberworth, which is of no assistance to me. > > However, it may be of use to one of you other OXLEY researchers. If so, > let me know (by direct e-mail, not the list), and I'll post it - FREE - > which should appeal to any true Yorkshireman (or Yorkshirewoman). > > Dave > in warming - temporarily - northern Illinois > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Hi Dave This is very interesting, I have Kimberworth Oxley's in my tree, including the only Martha Oxley in Kimberworth (or so I think). I have suspected for a long time she had children as a single woman, but thought they were called William (1840) and Samuel (1843), she later went on to marry her half uncle who lived with the family in the early 1840's. Is there any more information on the cert, to much to hope for the fathers name. You must therefore have Oxley interests in Rotherham, there were quite a few different families in Rotherham, in places like Kimberworth, Greasbrough etc. the families are fewer and more easily connected. Stuart

Hi All: I received Arthur OXLEY's birth cert today, born 27 May 1843. His mother is not the anticipated Elizabeth, but Martha OXLEY, a Singlewoman of Kimberworth, which is of no assistance to me. However, it may be of use to one of you other OXLEY researchers. If so, let me know (by direct e-mail, not the list), and I'll post it - FREE - which should appeal to any true Yorkshireman (or Yorkshirewoman). Dave in warming - temporarily - northern Illinois