Happy Halloween everyone! Perhaps a few days early, but with this long list of 43 new surname submissions, perhaps all our ancestors' saints and sinners will come out of the woodwork and further populate our trees! New submissions this update: ALDERSON, ALDERSONS BOYNTON, BRAITHWAITE, BUCKLE(2) CHERRY, COOPER DEANHAM, DENT, DINSDALE, DOWSONS EASTWOOD FAUCET GIBBON HARLAND(2), HIRD, HOGG, HOLBROOK, HOLDSWORTH HUGHILL JAMIESON LEGG MCDONALD, METCALFE, MOSSES, MYERS OWEN PATTISON, PEAR, PEDLETY RAINE SHIPPEN, SIMPSON, SPENCE, SPENSLEY, STAINSBY STONE THOMPSON WALKER, WARDELL, WONES Happy haunting, Magdalena ___________________________________________________ Magdalena Gorrell Guimaraens List Administrator PLEASE NOTE: - For *all *communications regarding the YKS Surnames List, please address emails to:*ykssurnames@yahoo.com <mailto:ykssurnames@yahoo.com> not* to the address from which this update is posted. Thank you. - For the Index to surnames on the YKS Surnames database and for instructions on how to submit surnames, go to: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/ AIIC.MAIL - A service of the International Association of Conference Interpreters to Members --- http://www.aiic.net

Thank you to all who suggested sites for me to explore. I had tried these sites, especially Sheffield but apparently Brightside Foudry was in Ecclesfield so Sheffield site only had one. They have given me permission to use this picture Again thank you very much for all your help _____ From: JJupar@aol.com [mailto:JJupar@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, 20 October 2009 9:12 PM To: coral@xlr8ed.net; eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SHEFF] Brightside Foundry In a message dated 20/10/2009 04:29:39 GMT Daylight Time, coral@xlr8ed.net writes: I am looking for a photo of Brightside Foundry where my husband worked when we lived in Sheffield. I have spent ages looking on web sites with no success so I would be very grateful if anyone in Sheffield has a photo Hi, I found these pictures on Google for you which I am sure your husband will explain to you. http://farm1.static.flickr.com/140/329137775_7941881423.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3204/2944602713_28c4a54994.jpg http://s0.geograph.org.uk/photos/24/14/241439_fa759b13.jpg Also have you seen this site which is full of Sheffield Pictures. http://www.picturesheffield.com/database.html JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

I am looking for a photo of Brightside Foundry where my husband worked when we lived in Sheffield. I have spent ages looking on web sites with no success so I would be very grateful if anyone in Sheffield has a photo

All, I would just like to thank Rosemary, John & Angela regarding my request about Crew Lists. I now intend to see if I can get more info so thanks guys & gals for the responses. -- Regards Karen Researching in Yorkshire: Sheffield: ROCH, WALKER, ROWLAND & TOWERS (also Derbyshire) Bradford: BAKES, MUFF, PYRAH Kippax: PRINCE, COGAN Huddersfield: SHAW, TAYLOR

Greetings to all Karen, the 1881 entry for James Roch is the only one on findmypast. There are two other entries, both for a Walter Roch born 1885 at Swansea and in 1903 crewed on the ship EMMA as a cook. The only difference between the two entries is the vessel had two different masters. Did you try ROCHE? Regards John in sunny SEQld. On Mon Oct 19 13:07 , Karen sent: >Hi All, > >Does anyone know what the crew lists are that are on Find My Past? > >I've just done a search for 'James ROCH' my great-great grandfather and >think that he appears in this list as the birth place and year of birth >match his plus the spelling of the name ROCH is not common in Sheffield at >the time. > >I don't currently subscribe to FMP as I've got an ancestry subscription but >do check things on the site from time to time but I can't find a description >of the content of this resource to see if its worth getting some credits. > >Regards > >Karen > >Researching in Yorkshire: >Sheffield: ROCH, WALKER, ROWLAND & TOWERS (also Derbyshire) >Bradford: BAKES, MUFF, PYRAH >Kippax: PRINCE, COGAN >Huddersfield: SHAW, TAYLOR > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try Picture Sheffield they have few photos' search under Brightside foundry http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl Bev -----Original Message----- From: eng-sheffield-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-sheffield-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Coral Thacker Sent: 20 October 2009 04:29 To: eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com Subject: [SHEFF] Brightside Foundry I am looking for a photo of Brightside Foundry where my husband worked when we lived in Sheffield. I have spent ages looking on web sites with no success so I would be very grateful if anyone in Sheffield has a photo ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.22/2446 - Release Date: 10/19/09 14:33:00

In a message dated 20/10/2009 04:29:39 GMT Daylight Time, coral@xlr8ed.net writes: I am looking for a photo of Brightside Foundry where my husband worked when we lived in Sheffield. I have spent ages looking on web sites with no success so I would be very grateful if anyone in Sheffield has a photo Hi, I found these pictures on Google for you which I am sure your husband will explain to you. _http://farm1.static.flickr.com/140/329137775_7941881423.jpg_ (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/140/329137775_7941881423.jpg) _http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3204/2944602713_28c4a54994.jpg_ (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3204/2944602713_28c4a54994.jpg) _http://s0.geograph.org.uk/photos/24/14/241439_fa759b13.jpg_ (http://s0.geograph.org.uk/photos/24/14/241439_fa759b13.jpg) Also have you seen this site which is full of Sheffield Pictures. _http://www.picturesheffield.com/database.html_ (http://www.picturesheffield.com/database.html) JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Hi All, Does anyone know what the crew lists are that are on Find My Past? I've just done a search for 'James ROCH' my great-great grandfather and think that he appears in this list as the birth place and year of birth match his plus the spelling of the name ROCH is not common in Sheffield at the time. I don't currently subscribe to FMP as I've got an ancestry subscription but do check things on the site from time to time but I can't find a description of the content of this resource to see if its worth getting some credits. Regards Karen Researching in Yorkshire: Sheffield: ROCH, WALKER, ROWLAND & TOWERS (also Derbyshire) Bradford: BAKES, MUFF, PYRAH Kippax: PRINCE, COGAN Huddersfield: SHAW, TAYLOR

Hello I’m new to this list but would love some help, or pointers in the right direction. My great-great grandfather was John Wadsworth, born 1845 and married to Martha Downes, they lived in Wickersley, Rotherham and owned/ran a stone quarry as far as I can tell in Silverwood. This appears to have been handed down to his 7 sons, John William, George Harry (my great grandfather)  Leonard Downes, Alvery Middleton, Edric Harold and Cyril Frederick. As far as I can tell John William Wadsworth started a timber merchant business. George Harry Wadsworth continued to run the stone quarry and handed it on to his sons as a quarry and haulage business. The other brothers may have helped with the stone quarry business but also ran two cinemas. The Wincobank Picture Palace and the Tinsely Picture Palace. I have just discovered in the 1944 phone book a business called Wadsworth Bros electricians around the corner from the Wincobank Picture Palace and wonder if this was anything to do with my great-grandfather and his brothers. I would love to know more about any or all of these businesses, what happened to them, does anyone remember anything about them? Where can I find out more? My Grandma’s memories are now at best patchy. Many thanks to anyone that can help. Ruth ---   Ruth Willmore www.ilovefreegle.org

Dear subscribers and fellow Yorkshire researchers, It took me some time to get back to publishing an update to the YKS Surnames List database, but here it finally is! There were quite a few email changes, some new submissions and one bounce: Doreen Hovorka (3) dori_h@sisna.com all the above 3 submissions have been deleted because of the bounce. Please don't inconvenience others and let me know when you change your email. I'll be only too happy to do it for you, as there is no form for this. Just remember to send me both your old and your new addresses. The following surnames were submitted by new members to the database: BOBBIT, BOWMAN CHERRY, CLIFFE EDGAR NAYLOR SCHOFIELD, SENIOR, SMITH TASKER WALES, WALKER If you want to find out who submitted them, just go to the Master Index at the URL given below with my signature, use your find tool, and contact the submitter. Good luck! All the best to everyone, Magdalena ___________________________________________________ Magdalena Gorrell Guimaraens List Administrator PLEASE NOTE: - For *all *communications regarding the YKS Surnames List, please address emails to:*ykssurnames@yahoo.com <mailto:ykssurnames@yahoo.com> not* to the address from which this update is posted. Thank you. - For the Index to surnames on the YKS Surnames database and for instructions on how to submit surnames, go to: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/ AIIC.MAIL - A service of the International Association of Conference Interpreters to Members --- http://www.aiic.net

Hi All, Would anyone be in a position to have a look at the St Marie's and/or St Vincent's marriage records for me? I'm looking for Joshua Higginbottom m Mary Ann Martin (unless she married using her dead husband's name - Holt) sometime in 1887. The date is as close as I can get from their 1911 census return, while John Holt only died 1886 so she wouldn't have been available before then. Neither GRO nor SRO seem to have any record of civil registration.... TIA John Green

Many thanks to all who responded to my query. The information and links were most helpful and I did enjoy the Sheffield pictures site finding other addresses for my DICKINSON family. I will be well prepared when I visit Sheffield hopefully in the not too distant future. Thank you also for your good wishes. Kind regards Nancy Watson Sydney, Australia

Charles George COOMBE was vicar of Crookes from 1855 to 1882 Hugh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Watson" <nwatson4@matra.com.au> To: <eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:47 AM Subject: [SHEFF] Dickinson marriage certificate > Hello listers. > > I recently received the marriage certificate for John Martin DICKINSON and > Matilda GOODINSON. The date was 18 November, 1872 and the church is St. > Thomas, ?Crookes? in the Parish of Sheffield, vicar Charles ?Coombe?.

Hello listers. I recently received the marriage certificate for John Martin DICKINSON and Matilda GOODINSON. The date was 18 November, 1872 and the church is St. Thomas, ?Crookes? in the Parish of Sheffield, vicar Charles ?Coombe?. I would be grateful for information on the actual location of this church and an explanation of Crookes. Also John's residence was Broomhill and Matilda's Verdon Street, Spitel Hill. I would be most interested to know where in Sheffield are/were these two addresses. One of the witnesses was a Robert NEWTON, unknown to me, but this may be of interest to others. Your advice would be greatly appreciated. Nancy Watson Sydney, Australia

Hi Nancy, Crookes is a district of Sheffield about 2.5 km West of the city center. Verdon Street is to the North of the river Don. You can get more information by entering "Crookes, Sheffield" into Google. There is also an account of the churches of Sheffield on GENUKI, I think but I dont know if there are details of the ministers. The church has its own website that comes up on the Google serch and includes details of where it is. good luck, Peter Lee ---------------------------------------- > From: nwatson4@matra.com.au > To: eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:47:01 +1100 > Subject: [SHEFF] Dickinson marriage certificate > > Hello listers. > > I recently received the marriage certificate for John Martin DICKINSON and Matilda GOODINSON. The date was 18 November, 1872 and the church is St. Thomas, ?Crookes? in the Parish of Sheffield, vicar Charles ?Coombe?. I would be grateful for information on the actual location of this church and an explanation of Crookes. Also John's residence was Broomhill and Matilda's Verdon Street, Spitel Hill. I would be most interested to know where in Sheffield are/were these two addresses. One of the witnesses was a Robert NEWTON, unknown to me, but this may be of interest to others. > > Your advice would be greatly appreciated. > > Nancy Watson > Sydney, Australia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Chat to your friends for free on selected mobiles http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/

In a message dated 15/10/2009 05:47:11 GMT Daylight Time, nwatson4@matra.com.au writes: I recently received the marriage certificate for John Martin DICKINSON and Matilda GOODINSON. The date was 18 November, 1872 and the church is St. Thomas, ?Crookes? in the Parish of Sheffield, vicar Charles ?Coombe?. I would be grateful for information on the actual location of this church and an explanation of Crookes. Also John's residence was Broomhill and Matilda's Verdon Street, Spitel Hill. Hi, St. Thomas's Church was the parish Church of an area [possibly once a village] Of Sheffield called Crookes. Broomhill, where I was born, is the next door area to Crookes and possibly one of the reasons they wished to be married there. Certainly Spital Hill was some distance away from either of these two areas, almost the other side of the town. It is quite likely that John Martin Dickinson worshipped at St. Thomas's Church as it was only a short journey from Broomhill, hence his preference to be married there. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Hi All, After a visit to Wakefield archives where I found the court records for my g-g-g-grandfather William ROCH (born c.1833, died 1868) when he was imprisoned for 4 months after stealing from his employer. He was sentenced to hard labour for stealing from John Bosworth CROCKER on 29th December 1852, the trial took place on 7th January 1853. I've been quite lucky as I've got a copy of the statements made by John CROCKER and the policeman Joseph Tasker. John CROCKER was a Mercer & Furrier at 58 High Street, Sheffield. William stole 15 fur boas, 100 yards of ribbon and 1 pair of fur cuffs. I've done a bit of research on Mr CROCKER and discovered using the IGI that he was born c.1828 and died in 1885, although I've not found a death record for this time. He also has entries in the 1852 White's Sheffield & District Directory. I can't find him on any census though so I wondered if anyone can tell me which piece/folio/pages cover the High Street for the 1851 & 1861 census. Unfortunately it doesn't give the area of Sheffield so I can't be more precise. I'm also interested in whether a Healey Street existed in Sheffield at that time and if so what the piece/folio/pages were for the 1851 & 1861 census. I'm currently trying to transcribe everything so I may find more info as I read the documents in detail. Look forward to hearing from you kind people out there. Regards Karen Researching in Yorkshire: Sheffield: ROCH, WALKER, ROWLAND & TOWERS (also Derbyshire) Bradford: BAKES, MUFF, PYRAH Kippax: PRINCE, COGAN Huddersfield: SHAW, TAYLOR

Hi everybody Does anybody know if a list (preferably on-line) exists of the parish clerks of Sheffield Parish Church in the 18th century. I'm interested in who actually wrote the baptism records between about 1760 and 1800. I doubt if the vicar himself would have done it. Peter _________________________________________________________________ Access your other email accounts and manage all your email from one place. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/

hello Richard, This shouldn't affect you unless your dates shift - the Local Studies Library in the main library building in *Surrey* Street (different southern county!) will be closed during the week beginning Monday November 9th. During that week they will move to a different part of the same building (still on the first floor). They don't seem to have that information on their webpages yet - I got it from a notice in the library. If you haven't seen those pages they have lots of useful things, including links to info about accommodation. http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/libraries/archives-and-local-studies Also, you should note that Sheffield Archives is always closed on Fridays. Hugh ----- Original Message ----- From: "richard ellis" <richard@ellisresearch.demon.co.uk> To: "Sheffield FHS chat" <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:16 PM Subject: [SHEFF] Sheffield visit > Hello > > I'm planning to visit Sheffield in early November - probably > Wed 4 - Fri 6...to do some research* in the archives there. > > I need some recommendations! for a B&B and/or small hotel > with car parking space, and within easy reach of the archives (walk > or local bus), and somewhere nearby for an evening meal. > > I could "google" it - but prefer to go on recommendation! > > It worked so well when I was in Leicester earlier this year - found > hotel in park near heart of city, short walk to Leicester FHS centre > and restaurants round the corner plus local cemetery with many family > graves > > > * On local Quakers c 1750-1780 and their association with > the early steel industry : one of my ancestors was a plater there > ( think it may be start of silversmiths there) > > There was a hearth/burning place for Quakers off Broad Lane > according to Gosling's map of this period ( ref: Fiery Blades > of Hallamshire - David Hey) > > Also Quaker records in archives on Balby MM and Sheffield PM > > I've included the latter detail in the off chance that someone may > know about these records - held in the archives in Shoreham St, > and in City library in Sussex St. > > I only wish I'd known about these family connections when I was > a student there many many years ago! > > Any help/guidance appreciated! > > Richard Ellis

Hi, A while ago I learned of my Thorpe ancestry from Ecclesall Beirlow in Sheffield. Circa 1884 my great grandfather Edward Richard Thorpe, born in the Sep Qtr 1863 9c 214 (I Jan 1863 according to Sheffield Registry Office) to Sidney and Elizabeth (nee Palmer) Thorpe came to Queensland Australia. His grandfather was Sidney Thorpe son of Thomas and Fanny Thorpe (born 1816) and his grandmother was Mary Hobson. When I originally researched the Thorpes, a contact on line said Sidney was married to a Mary Ann Barnes. After Mary was widowed in 1857 she and her children are living with a John Hobson aged fifty (whom I believe is her brother) in 1861. Does anyone know these folk even Elizabeth (nee Palmer) daughter of Richard and Ann Palmer whom came from Stropshire to Sheffield? I would like to confirm one way or the other whether Sidney married a Mary Hobson or a Mary Ann Barnes. They resided in Garden Street and are buried in the General Cemetery along with family members. Edward Richard's son of the same name returned to England during WW1 and married his first cousin Ada Thorpe, daughter of his uncle Sidney Thorpe (the third). They returned to Australia and had no issue. Thomas and Fanny I cannot find death or burial dates for. Would love to make contact with any descendants of these folk? Regards Debby (in Melbourne)