Hello Sharon, and welcome to the list! Do you have the later census information for this family? I see that George died shortly after the 1851 census and Sarah married William SIMPSON (and there's a visitor called TURNER in the 1861 household). The place name is Brightside Bierlow (there is also Ecclesall Bierlow in Sheffield). Bierlow is a word of Norse origin. Here is a useful quote I came across: from Discovering Parish Boundaries By Angus Winchester; Osprey Publishing, 2000 "... much of England possesses a much more scattered settlement pattern consisting of small hamlets and dispersed farmsteads. In these areas lordship or the existence of early local folk meetings were probably the forces which bound scattered groups of farms together into township communities. A hint of these early origins in the north of England comes in the term bierlow or byerlaw, a term which came to be almost synonymous with 'village community, township' and survived in place-names such as Brampton Bierlow, Brightside Bierlow and Eccleshall Bierlow in the West Riding of Yorkshire. Derived from the Scandinavian term byar-log, meaning ' the local law of the township', it hints that a village meeting, a sort of proto-manor court making regulations affecting the whole community, was the essential feature binding scattered farms into a township community." Hugh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Jameson" <sharon-j@bigpond.net.au> To: <eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 9:16 AM Subject: [SHEFF] SWANN family in Handworth Hi I am new to the list and new to researching in England. My interest is in the SWANN family who (according to census information) comes from Handsworth. JOSEPH SWANN (1847 - 1930) married JANE BUTLER (1846 - ?) in Sheffield in 1872. JOSEPH SWANN's father is given as GEORGE SWANN (born c 1826). According to the 1851 census for Brightside Burlow (hopefully I have this placename right), Sheffield he was married to SARAH (possibly TURNER) and living with SARAH HUTCHISON a widower aged 58. I would be pleased to hear from anyone who has knowledge of this family or area. Regards Sharon (In Australia) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bryn, I replied too quickly. If you look at the rest of the Rompticle pictures there is another one which says that there was a station there from 1845 to 1847, so look at all the photos. John

Bryn, The crossing was still operating around 1950. I lived in Huthwaite Lane which leads up to Rompticle from the Thurgoland to Stocksbridge Road and remember the crossing cottage being inhabited by the COATES family. If you go to http://www.yococo.co.uk/LibraryDigitisation/ and get to the search page and then enter Rompticle, you will find two photos of the crossing dated 1910 John -------------------------------------------------- From: <eng-sheffield-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 8:00 AM To: <eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com> Subject: ENG-SHEFFIELD Digest, Vol 4, Issue 183 > > > When replying always change the subject line to that of the individual > message which you are responding to. > > Please "SNIP" generously, don't repeat everything again. Including > everything will inflate the size of the next Digest unnecessarily and > could create problems for those who are not on broadband. > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Help with local info pls. Romptical Crossing Thurgoland (bmaj) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:22:08 -0500 > From: bmaj <bmaj@rogers.com> > Subject: [SHEFF] Help with local info pls. Romptical Crossing > Thurgoland > To: Eng-Sheffield-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4B04C7F0.2070907@rogers.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I have my great grandfather on the 1881, 1891, 1901 cen living at > Romptical Crossing as a Railway gate man. Someone has to my cousin this > week that the crossing was only operating from 1845-47. Was there two > crossings by this name? Three cens can't be wrong.? > > thanks for any insight, Bryn > > Brynda Ashton-Jones > London, Ontario > Canada > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ENG-SHEFFIELD list administrator, send an email to > ENG-SHEFFIELD-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ENG-SHEFFIELD mailing list, send an email to > ENG-SHEFFIELD@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ENG-SHEFFIELD Digest, Vol 4, Issue 183 > ********************************************* >

I have my great grandfather on the 1881, 1891, 1901 cen living at Romptical Crossing as a Railway gate man. Someone has to my cousin this week that the crossing was only operating from 1845-47. Was there two crossings by this name? Three cens can't be wrong.? thanks for any insight, Bryn Brynda Ashton-Jones London, Ontario Canada

These are the only ones I can find. Burial. January xxxj 1690/91 Josephus ADDY. Marriages. Sept xj 1704/5 Joh’es ADDEY sissersmith and Elizab ASBERRY de Ecckelsfield Feb xij 1717 John ADDY shoomaker and Sara WOODCOCK spinster both of Rotherham parish. Married with license granted by Mr Dossie, surrogate. Oct xiv 1718 Rich’d ADDY lab’r and Sarah PARKIN spinster. Angela Treweek _________________________________________________________________ Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/

Hi listers, I am researching ADDY in the West Riding, my research has led me to Ecclesfield and to make sure that I have left no stone unturned I would like to check ADDYs in Sheffield. I have data covering most of the early years, but am missing burials 1686-1703, baptisms and marriages 1703-1719. If anyone could help me with ADDY/ADDIE/ADDEY please - there should only be a handful, if any, that would be most appreciated. Many thanks, Sharon in Perth, Western Australia

Hi Sharon, You might be able to find more Addy's on our site the Sheffield Indexers that you can search for yourself. at http://www.sheffieldindexers.com I believe the years you are missing are available in booklet form at the YAS in Leeds. Hope this helps. Elaine in Ottawa. Sheffield Indexers Site Admin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Bunter" <sbunter@iinet.net.au> To: <eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com> Sent: November 17, 2009 5:02 AM Subject: [SHEFF] Sheffield PRs vol 5 - ADDY lookup? > Hi listers, > I am researching ADDY in the West Riding, my research has led me to > Ecclesfield and to make sure that I have left no stone unturned I would > like > to check ADDYs in Sheffield. I have data covering most of the early years, > but am missing burials 1686-1703, baptisms and marriages 1703-1719. > If anyone could help me with ADDY/ADDIE/ADDEY please - there should only > be > a handful, if any, that would be most appreciated. > Many thanks, > Sharon in Perth, Western Australia > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oooops! that should of course have read 'one was named Averilda and one called Maurice' Sorry!. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "KEVIN SUTTON" <kevin.sutton2@btinternet.com> > To: "June Chatterton" <junechatterton@blueyonder.co.uk>; > <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:13 PM > Subject: Re: [SHEFF] The name given Averilda > > >> There was Averilda Tobin who married John Rodgers about 1725. >> One of John's sons founded Joseph Rodgers and sons, one of the most >> famous >> of the Sheffield Cutlers and of their several children, one was named >> Averlida and one called Maurice. >> This firm employed a large workforce, and I believe that quite a number >> of >> them took these names for their children as they were a little different >> from the norm. >> I stress this is just a theory of mine, and both names may have been >> extremely prevalent before the time frame I am referring to here! >> Kevin >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "June Chatterton" <junechatterton@blueyonder.co.uk> >> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 7:28 AM >> Subject: [SHEFF] The name given Averilda >> >> >>> >>> Seeing Dave's query about Elvin made me wonder where my Grandmother's >>> name >>> Averilda (as per birth certiticate)came from. I had never heard of it >>> before. The story goes that I was going to be named after her but one >>> of >>> my >>> mother's sister said when they name me June seeing as I was born in >>> June. >>> To say I am relieved is an understatement (although I am not that keen >>> on >>> June). Averilda's grandmother had the same name but hers was spelt >>> (according to the 1891 census) Haverilda but obviously that could be how >>> it >>> was heard. I haven't got evidence of her birth. >>> >>> I would be interested where the name came from. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> June >>> >>> June Chatterton >>> Sheffield >>> United Kingdom > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.707 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date: 11/14/09 19:42:00

It could be a form of Averil. The Oxford English Dictionary of Christian names says:- "Averil (f.) [a'veril]: Everild (Latin Everildis), the name of a 7th-C Yorkshire saint, is probably a compound of Old English eofar 'boar', hild 'battle'. There is a well-attested cognate Old German Eburhilt (other forms are Eburhild, Eberhild, Eurohildis, Eurildis), Everild was not uncommon in the Middle Ages and was in use as late as the 17th C; it is still occasionally used in Yorkshire and Everilda survives as a gypsy name. But the usual form of the name is now Averil. Averell appears in 1604 in a Yorkshire list of Recusants, side by side with the form Everild." We have researched a family with the name Averilada in the female line. Janet www.researchingrelatives.co.uk - professional genealogists specialising in the Sheffield area. ----- Original Message ----- From: "KEVIN SUTTON" <kevin.sutton2@btinternet.com> To: "June Chatterton" <junechatterton@blueyonder.co.uk>; <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [SHEFF] The name given Averilda > There was Averilda Tobin who married John Rodgers about 1725. > One of John's sons founded Joseph Rodgers and sons, one of the most famous > of the Sheffield Cutlers and of their several children, one was named > Averlida and one called Maurice. > This firm employed a large workforce, and I believe that quite a number of > them took these names for their children as they were a little different > from the norm. > I stress this is just a theory of mine, and both names may have been > extremely prevalent before the time frame I am referring to here! > Kevin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "June Chatterton" <junechatterton@blueyonder.co.uk> > To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 7:28 AM > Subject: [SHEFF] The name given Averilda > > >> >> Seeing Dave's query about Elvin made me wonder where my Grandmother's >> name >> Averilda (as per birth certiticate)came from. I had never heard of it >> before. The story goes that I was going to be named after her but one of >> my >> mother's sister said when they name me June seeing as I was born in June. >> To say I am relieved is an understatement (although I am not that keen on >> June). Averilda's grandmother had the same name but hers was spelt >> (according to the 1891 census) Haverilda but obviously that could be how >> it >> was heard. I haven't got evidence of her birth. >> >> I would be interested where the name came from. >> >> Regards >> >> June >> >> June Chatterton >> Sheffield >> United Kingdom

There was Averilda Tobin who married John Rodgers about 1725. One of John's sons founded Joseph Rodgers and sons, one of the most famous of the Sheffield Cutlers and of their several children, one was named Averlida and one called Maurice. This firm employed a large workforce, and I believe that quite a number of them took these names for their children as they were a little different from the norm. I stress this is just a theory of mine, and both names may have been extremely prevalent before the time frame I am referring to here! Kevin ----- Original Message ----- From: "June Chatterton" <junechatterton@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <ENG-SHEFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 7:28 AM Subject: [SHEFF] The name given Averilda > > Seeing Dave's query about Elvin made me wonder where my Grandmother's name > Averilda (as per birth certiticate)came from. I had never heard of it > before. The story goes that I was going to be named after her but one of > my > mother's sister said when they name me June seeing as I was born in June. > To say I am relieved is an understatement (although I am not that keen on > June). Averilda's grandmother had the same name but hers was spelt > (according to the 1891 census) Haverilda but obviously that could be how > it > was heard. I haven't got evidence of her birth. > > I would be interested where the name came from. > > Regards > > June > > June Chatterton > Sheffield > United Kingdom > > Handmade Greeting Cards and Wedding Stationary > www.craftmarkets.co.uk/chatterboxdesigns > and > http://artymiss.co.uk/barter/stores.php - Look for Chatterbox Designs > > Family History > www.junechatterton.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk > Looking for members of the following familys > BENSON, BRADFORD, CHATTERTON, FIELDSEND, HAWLEY, LEMONS and MITCHELL > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1512 - Release Date: 21/06/2008 > 09:27 >

I have just had a note from the programme secretary of our Local History Society which might be of interest to those listers within striking distance of Sheffield. The artist Norah K.Rogerson who gives talks to local history groups about her work, is having an exhibition in the Winter Gardens, Sheffield from Friday Nov 13th to Friday Nov 20th including Sat. and Sun. from 8am to 6pm. 2009 It is called Sheffield Canal Basin from dereliction to regeneration, an exhibition of paintings recorded on site between 1989-1995. She recently came to one of our meetings and showed slides of these pictures which I found absolutely fascinating particularly with the stories of the characters she met and the incidents experienced whilst she was working on site. Best wishes Pauline Bell Researching: Bailey,Barnsley, Barber, Bell, Cooper, Froggatt, Leclere, Shaw

Hello All, I am new to the Sheffield list! My interest lays with the Ledger family from Sheffield.I am looking in particular for anyone that may know of Cornelius Ledger born 1899. His parents were John,born 1863,and Annie,born 1859.He had three brothers,Arthur,Percy and John and one sister Florence. Cornelius served in the first world war and later married Beatrice May King 1922.They lived at 4 Albert Street, Brentwood,Essex where Cornelius died in 1973. Many thanks,and very best wishes Lou

Sheffield Local Studies Library (Surrey St) This library will be closed for one week, 9th-14th November It will re-open on Monday 16th in its new location across the landing in what was the Arts and Social Studies Library. Sheffield Archives (Shoreham St) The Archives will be closed for their annual stocktaking from Monday November 30th to Saturday 12th December. Details can be found here: http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/libraries/archives-and-local-studies Hugh

Hello i am new to this list and hoping somebody in Sheffield may be able to help me. We just cant find the death of this lady above anywhere. On the free BMD i found a Sarah Ann Merrill who died in Sheffield on September in 1901 aged 47. Now that would work out to her birth date and I know she had a sister living in that area around that time. Her husband was Henry Merrill and he died died around 1890 in Lincoln where he was born. Sarah Ann was born a Sargison in Parson Drove Cambridge to Jane nee Griffin and Micheal Martin Sargison. Would there be some kind person who could check that death for me in Shefield. Regards Mary in New Zealand

Surely the easiest way would be to order the death certificate? With luck she would be described as 'widow of' and maybe her sister reported the death so you could be sure you have the correct person. Alternatively look at the Sheffield Indexers site: www.sheffieldindexers.com . Maybe that will give you extra information Regards Margaret Switzerland On 3 Nov 2009, at 08:50, Les Turner wrote: > Hello i am new to this list and hoping somebody in Sheffield may be > able to help me. We just cant find the death of this lady above > anywhere. > On the free BMD i found a Sarah Ann Merrill who died in Sheffield > on September in 1901 aged 47. Now that would work out to her birth > date and I know she had a sister living in that area around that > time. > Her husband was Henry Merrill and he died died around 1890 in > Lincoln where he was born. Sarah Ann was born a Sargison in Parson > Drove Cambridge to Jane nee Griffin and Micheal Martin Sargison. > Would there be some kind person who could check that death for me in > Shefield. > Regards Mary in New Zealand > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHEFFIELD-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

hello Mary, Welcome to the list! I don't think this Sarah Ann is the one you are looking for, because... Grave A160nc, Attercliffe Municipal Cemetery MERRILL Sarah Ann 22 Jul 1901 47 wife of Benjamin 124 Staniforth Road Attercliffe A160nc MERRILL Benjamin 8 Jul 1924 74 engineer 46 Woodbourn Hill Attercliffe A160gp (nc=gp) In the 1901 census (piece 4384 folio 116 page 56) this Sarah Ann is listed as born in Knaresborough. Hugh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Turner" <LesT@xtra.co.nz> To: <eng-sheffield@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 8:50 AM Subject: [SHEFF] SARAH ANN MERILL > Hello i am new to this list and hoping somebody in Sheffield may be able > to help me. We just cant find the death of this lady above anywhere. > On the free BMD i found a Sarah Ann Merrill who died in Sheffield on > September in 1901 aged 47. Now that would work out to her birth date and I > know she had a sister living in that area around that time. > Her husband was Henry Merrill and he died died around 1890 in Lincoln > where he was born. Sarah Ann was born a Sargison in Parson Drove Cambridge > to Jane nee Griffin and Micheal Martin Sargison. > Would there be some kind person who could check that death for me in > Shefield. > Regards Mary in New Zealand

Thank you to everyone who responded to my query about an occupation on the 1841 census. Most people said Female Servant, one said Farm Servant so either could be possible. Probably as the previous person on the census was an ag lab maybe it was farm servant but I dont think really matters she was still a servant!!! Many thanks again to this great list June Sheffield UK

Hello June The initials are F.S. - female servant. Take care ~ Ann On 02/11/2009 14:06:02, June Chatterton (junechatterton@blueyonder.co.uk) wrote: > Hi > > Could SKS please help me decipher an occupation on the 1841 census. The > person is a Mary BENNISON born about 1776 and she is listed as aged 70 on > the census and the occupation is given as two letters and looking at the > enumerators style of writing the occupation seems to be T an S. I have > the census image if anyone wishes to look and the ref is > HO107; Piece 1257; Book: 14; Civil Parish: Kirkby in Cleveland; County: > Yorkshire; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 5; Page: 3; Line: 11; GSU > roll: 464233 > > Thank you in advance. > > June > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHEFFIELD- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message

Hi Could SKS please help me decipher an occupation on the 1841 census. The person is a Mary BENNISON born about 1776 and she is listed as aged 70 on the census and the occupation is given as two letters and looking at the enumerators style of writing the occupation seems to be T an S. I have the census image if anyone wishes to look and the ref is HO107; Piece 1257; Book: 14; Civil Parish: Kirkby in Cleveland; County: Yorkshire; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 5; Page: 3; Line: 11; GSU roll: 464233 Thank you in advance. June

In a message dated 02/11/2009 14:06:51 GMT Standard Time, junechatterton@blueyonder.co.uk writes: Could SKS please help me decipher an occupation on the 1841 census. The person is a Mary BENNISON born about 1776 and she is listed as aged 70 on the census and the occupation is given as two letters and looking at the enumerators style of writing the occupation seems to be T an S. I have the census image if anyone wishes to look and the ref is HO107; Piece 1257; Book: 14; Civil Parish: Kirkby in Cleveland; County: Yorkshire; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 5; Page: 3; Line: 11; GSU roll: 464233 Hi June, It Reads F.S. or Female Servant. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html