Dear Steve, I see you have CARR as a surname interest. It's probably a long shot, but here are the details of my CARR ancestors, in case they may be related. I have resubmitted my full list of interests to the group a short time back. Kind regards, Malcolm Carr (Christchurch, New Zealand) James CARR (my ggg grandfather) of Openshaw (Manchester) & Sheffield, died about 1880, m. ? SCOTT brought up by Lady SCOTT with Mark FIRTH later Mayor of Sheffield. William CARR Fanny CARR James CARR (my gg grandfather) Joseph CARR Sarah Ann CARR Alice CARR James CARR (my gg grandfather) m. Sarah SCOTT (I think ?, from information on IGI) on August 07 1831 at Ecclesfield, Yorkshire. I think the following family in the 1851 Census may be theirs: [ref: piece 2342 folio 126B Fitzalan St (Brightside Bierlow; Ecclesiastical District: Wicker)] James CARR / head / married / 39yrs / engine fitter / Staffordshire, Cheadle Sarah CARR / wife / married / 39yrs / __________ / Sheffield Ellen CARR / dau / _______ / 18yrs / dressmaker / Sheffield William CARR / son / _______ / 15yrs / engine fitter / Sheffield (my g grandfather) James CARR / son / _______ / 13yrs / brush maker / Sheffield Joseph CARR / son / _______ / 10yrs / scholar / Sheffield Sarah Ann CARR / dau / _______ / 7yrs / scholar / Sheffield Fanny CARR / dau / _______ / 5yrs / scholar / Sheffield George CARR / son / ________ / 11mo / _________ / Sheffield 1841 census ref: piece 1329 folio 27F Fitzalan St (Brightside Bierlow) James CARR 30 white smith J[ourneyman] N Sarah CARR 30 Y Ellen CARR 8 Y William CARR 5 Y James CARR 3 Y Joseph CARR 4m Y Where 'N' and 'Y' are answers to the question "born in same county [as census place]?" William CARR (my g grandfather, d. May 17 1874 from pneumonia aged 38 at Grimesthorpe, Sheffield, buried May 20 1874 Brightside St Thomas Churchyard), 32, m. Emma Kay, 19 dau of George KAY & Ann nee CASSON on April 11 1868 at St Thomas's Church, Kimberworth (NOTE: William & Emma & family were living at High St, Brightside Bierlow in the 1871 Census. Sarah Ellen CARR (b. Sep Q 1869 at Wortley, d. June 26 1947 at Christchurch, New Zealand) m. Frederick HORSFIELD, son of Charles HORSFIELD & Emma nee ? James CARR (my grandfather) b. Jan 03 1871 at Jenkin Rd, Brightside, Brightside Bierlow, d. Nov 30 1951 at Methven, New Zealand William CARR b. ?, d. ? (all I know, is he lived for only 3 months) although he could be this one listed on the NBI: "William CARR buried 14/01/1875 age 5 weeks at Brightside, St Thomas" James CARR (my grandfather), 33, m. Annie Sarah SHAW, 29 dau of William SHAW & Harriet nee TODD of Windhill, Shipley, on October 30 1904 at St Thomas's Church, Wincobank (just prior to emmigrating to New Zealand). James Edwin CARR (my father), b. Jan 21 1906 at Ashburton New Zealand William Francis CARR, b. Aug 02 1907 at Sydenham, Christchurch, New Zealand Reginald Norman CARR, b. Dec 12 1909 at Christchurch, New Zealand Constance Irene CARR, b. Nov 02 1911 at Methven, New Zealand Margaret Winifred Elsie CARR, b. May 15, 1914 at Methven, New Zealand